Hibs been invited to talk to SFA

[CapitalGreen]

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Neil Doncaster has come out very strongly against strict liability on a number of occasions - his stance is that individual fans should be punished more severly. However we know that Police Scotland would face an almost impossible task with that so it wont get us anywhere.

Punishing individual fans is a waste of time when dealing with the Old Firm as they have so many supporters, you ban one bigot and there is another 1000 waiting to take their place.

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Neil Doncaster has come out very strongly against strict liability on a number of occasions - his stance is that individual fans should be punished more severly. However we know that Police Scotland would face an almost impossible task with that so it wont get us anywhere.

If Celtic and Sevco wanted strict liability Doncaster would be strongly in favour of it.

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Punishing individual fans is a waste of time when dealing with the Old Firm as they have so many supporters, you ban one bigot and there is another 1000 waiting to take their place.

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If Celtic and Sevco wanted strict liability Doncaster would be strongly in favour of it.

Thats why I think its worth pushing for. In general we have a miniority committing offences, and only on an occasional basis. Rangers have thousands every week committing offences punishable under strict liability.

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Understand this view.....but with punishments and offences clearly listed at the beginning of any implementation, you would hope there would be less room for the type of wooly and inconsistent interpration we see from Scottish officials.

I'm probably living in cloud cuckoo land with that hope though....

But the punishment stage only comes once their has been an investigation and charges brought. Like with VAR, if the SFA investigate and claim there are no charges to answer then (certain) clubs won’t be punished.

Like with VAR, they’ll just claim they didn’t see/hear any offence.

[LaMotta]

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But the punishment stage only comes once their has been an investigation and charges brought. Like with VAR, if the SFA investigate and claim there are no charges to answer then (certain) clubs won’t be punished.

Like with VAR, they’ll just claim they didn’t see/hear any offence.

Yeh I'm scepitical too to be fair.

[matty_f]

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Understand this view.....but with punishments and offences clearly listed at the beginning of any implementation, you would hope there would be less room for the type of wooly and inconsistent interpretation we see from Scottish officials.

I'm probably living in cloud cuckoo land with that hope though....

Have you seen what they’ve done with VAR?

[PatHead]

Can only imagine the fine we would have had at Tynecastle for these idiots throwing things on the pitch.

[Malthibby]

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But the punishment stage only comes once their has been an investigation and charges brought. Like with VAR, if the SFA investigate and claim there are no charges to answer then (certain) clubs won’t be punished.

Like with VAR, they’ll just claim they didn’t see/hear any offence.

Got to start somewhere - if clubs put in decent digital gear to evidentially pick up the bile we all hear it will be increasingly difficult to get away with 'Move on, nothing to hear here,' especially if wealthy benefactors
are happy to threaten court action if the playing field is obviously less than even.
Been so long since I thought anything could change & so meybes suddenly over-optimistic but this has been so long coming, it's difficult not to think, 'This time, finally.....'

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Can only imagine the fine we would have had at Tynecastle for these idiots throwing things on the pitch.

Aye but we would have deserved it. Hopefully the morons engaging it that kind of behaviour would accept it was utterly counter-productive, assuming they are actually genuine fans and
pack it in.
As long as the Old firm get the same treatment.....

[truehibernian]

Sorry but why just invite Hibs ? Invite all the top tier clubs, the match delegates they employ, and all the safety managers at clubs too. This sounds like an appeasement exercise in the hope “it goes away”.

[VoltaireHibs]

This will be a damage limitation exercise by the SFA. An attempt at a wee cozy arm around the shoulder 'Is there anything we can do to calm this down...' etc. The good cop approach whilst secretly wishing we'd stfu and let the bigot brothers get on with it.

Cats well and truly out the bag now though.

[VoltaireHibs]

If our ultra guys can't behave themselves then I'd give them their own section, and fence them in. Give them that full 'Italian Ultra' look that most of them are so desperately trying to impersonate. Now we've put our heads above the parapet we will need to be squeaky clean.

No whataboutery required.

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Sorry but why just invite Hibs ? Invite all the top tier clubs, the match delegates they employ, and all the safety managers at clubs too. This sounds like an appeasement exercise in the hope “it goes away”.

Spot on. Cup of tea, wee chat, promise to look into it ...blah blah blah.

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Have you seen what they’ve done with VAR?

Yes, hence my final sentence

[Dashing Bob S]

Only sensible path the football authorities can take is to ban the Huns from Scottish football.

[Carheenlea]

I think we could manage Strict Liability.

A club who has had some very recent incidents of fan misbehaviour taking the lead sends a positive message, and points to a genuine will to eradicate such incidents from within our own support.

Strict Liability is no guarantee of stopping the likes of missile throwing, but when it’s made very clear to fans what the consequences of such actions would be to the club, you’d have to feel confident in taking a big step into improving matters. Self policing may come more prevalent in groups where the more hot headed fans are reigned in a bit from friends.

While our breaches have been sporadic, some clubs would be in breach almost every single week. Certainly at every away game.
There will be no will from a certain club in adopting Strict Liability.

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I think we could manage Strict Liability.

A club who has had some very recent incidents of fan misbehaviour taking the lead sends a positive message, and points to a genuine will to eradicate such incidents from within our own support.

Strict Liability is no guarantee of stopping the likes of missile throwing, but when it’s made very clear to fans what the consequences of such actions would be to the club, you’d have to feel confident in taking a big step into improving matters. Self policing may come more prevalent in groups where the more hot headed fans are reigned in a bit from friends.

While our breaches have been sporadic, some clubs would be in breach almost every single week. Certainly at every away game.
There will be no will from a certain club in adopting Strict Liability.

The alternative is to just accept things as they are.

[MKHIBEE]

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Only sensible path the football authorities can take is to ban the Huns from Scottish football.

We can only live in hope

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Spot on. Cup of tea, wee chat, promise to look into it ...blah blah blah.

think we are passed that stage the cans been opened lets see what comes out of it

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Can only imagine the fine we would have had at Tynecastle for these idiots throwing things on the pitch.

If the SFA employed decent Refs who could referee a game properly then the non penalty wouldn't have cause such a backlash with the fans especially after we have witnessed poor decision after another for the last 4 weeks. Our 4 biggest games have been spoiled by useless officials even with the option of viewing their mistakes on a monitor they either decide not to bother or go over and still get the decision wrong. There's only so much fans will put up with before pushing back.

[.Sean.]

Just been discussed on Reporting Scotland and they had Chris Maclaughlin on and unless I’m going deef, he mentioned everything except sectarian singing? 😂

[we are hibs]

Typical BBC there on the news.


Apparently Hibs raised the issue about multiple things.

Not sectarian singing if you listen to the BBC. Just conveniently swept under the carpet and not even mentioned by the reporter.

[Libby Hibby]

The BBC should be called out too, part of the overall problem.

[Not In The Know]

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Just been discussed on Reporting Scotland and they had Chris Maclaughlin on and unless I’m going deef, he mentioned everything except sectarian singing? 😂

Absolutely disgusting how they tip toe round it.

[ancient hibee]

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Just been discussed on Reporting Scotland and they had Chris Maclaughlin on and unless I’m going deef, he mentioned everything except sectarian singing? 😂

Just what I was going to post. I got the impression that our supporters behaviour is very much on trial.

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Just what I was going to post. I got the impression that our supporters behaviour is very much on trial.

And so it should. I was at Tiny a few weeks back and it was the worst I’ve ever seen it, needs addressed as well as the away fans.

[OstKurve Hibs]

Sfa going through the motions, fk them

[hibsbollah]

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Just been discussed on Reporting Scotland and they had Chris Maclaughlin on and unless I’m going deef, he mentioned everything except sectarian singing? 😂

The word ‘sectarian’ didnt appear on the bbc report until almost at the end of the report, and only because the word appears in our Hibs press release.

My cousin from down south messaged me earlier to ask me what sort of bad behaviour it was all about. It’s deliberate, the BBC will not talk about this.

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And so it should. I was at Tiny a few weeks back and it was the worst I’ve ever seen it, needs addressed as well as the away fans.

I agree however our supporters behaviour is not what has prompted this move and the real reason for it was totally ignored by McLaughlin. He should be ashamed of himself unless he was muzzled by the BBC.He seemed very ill at ease.

[bod]

Think he’ll put his report in & someone else will edit it for it to read out