I genuinely struggle with how reasonable, intelligent, good people can support Rangers in good conscience. Would you want to be associated with a club that is knee-deep in anti-Catholic (or anti-anything, really) hatred. You know that, by association, people think you are a bigot. You know that you are paying into it, condoning it and perpetuating the hatred. You validate it with your ongoing support.
Just how could you? Many posters have rightly asked what if anti-Catholic hatred was treated the same as racism, would you follow a team that was widely accepted to be known for being anti-black, for example? Most reasonable people would go to every effort to condemn that and disassociate themselves with it.
But Rangers fans lap it up. The club itself laps it up with their weird royal family paintings in the dressing room, the Armed Forces Day stuff, the sashes on the strip... they absolutely play on it because it makes them money.
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12-03-2024 09:03 AM #31Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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12-03-2024 09:20 AM #33
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12-03-2024 09:48 AM #35
Made the mistake of having a glance at FF to see if any of them were showing humanity towards Boyle (a few were fighting against the tide, take my hat off to them), most weren't and some were under the impression that he was roundly applauded off the park. I mind while watching live that I only saw 3 people in the lower deck clapping. I heard about the singing afterwards.
But what's the point in conversing with any of them when they allow a member to have the name "UpToMyKnees".
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12-03-2024 10:47 AM #36
There is no point. If any Rangers fan came out in public against their clubs "culture" they'd need 24 police protection. So any decent conversation is never going to happen.
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12-03-2024 02:28 PM #38
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I remember reading about Basile Boli. He said I didn't realise what it was like, or why they wanted him or how he was expected to fit in. He said he heard the stories and the 'songs' and saw the picture of the Queen in the changing room and thought "What is a black, French, Catholic, republican' doing here?!"
I'm pretty sure Alex Ferguson's documentary talks about his regret not being telling them to 'bolt' when someone (IIRC) suggested he'd not progess well due to having a Catholic wife.
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12-03-2024 02:53 PM #39
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Can't agree with the Irish Catholic heritage part. Going by social media, these terms are randomly applied to anyone who criticises their horrible club, Catholic, Irish origin or otherwise.
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12-03-2024 03:56 PM #41This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteFollow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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At some point down the road comes 17th century Irish politics, hating catholics and all the rest of it.
In my experience it's perfectly possible to be from the West, take the bits of supporting the club you like and leave the rest of it. Those from the rest of the country tend to get involved with the club in the first place because they're attracted to all the crap for some reason.
I know decent Rangers fans and tbh I'm as likely to bump up close to the boundaries of acceptability in conversations with them as they are. A big difference would be that they'd be more likely to condone, defend or downplay the unacceptable conduct of fellow fans, whereas I've got no desire whatsoever to defend folk singing about the Ibrox disaster or the like.
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12-03-2024 04:19 PM #43
Ive just seen that the Europa league final is going to be held in Dublin of all places.
If they actually reach the final…the mind boggles.
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I always imagine it being like American History X but instead of realising the views are abhorrent and distancing yourself from them, you go “but the social life is good” so I’ll stick with these neo-nazi backward gimps.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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They won't get there though
My wee brother, baptised, he started supporting Rangers at the start of the Souness era. He was taken through to Ibrox by some pal of his and their dad, that was the wee bam hooked on huns.
He was only about twelve, but even then......
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I'm an atheist myself but I think it's reasonable for Catholics to doubt an institution which specifically bars Catholics from the top job.
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Amongst that huge number there is an incredibly vocal section, who knows how large it is. Even if it actually is a minority, it is massive.
There were fans applauding Boyle off the pitch in their end. There were probably thousands at home muttering about it being bang out of order that the song that was being sung was being sung (even if only because they knew it might come back and bite them). There will have been others revelling in the occasion.
They're an odd bunch for sure, but I've met enough decent ones (a fair few over the years who have actually even been to ER in my company to watch games not involving Rangers, in the Hibs end - something I wouldn't be reciprocating at Ibrox) to make me uncomfortable about questioning the very existence of decent Rangers fans.
Not to say that I don't question that for a couple of days in the aftermath of every single Rangers Hibs game right enough.
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The same kind of imbeciles who refer to anyone of darker skin to themselves as a “Paki” regardless of their cultural heritage.
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12-03-2024 08:07 PM #55
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Out of interest Smartie, do any of your rangers pals actively ‘disagree’ with or condemn the nonsense, or is it more that they don’t get involved in it?
Out of all the Rangers fans I’ve ever met in my life, I’ve met a few that claim to not be interested it or involved (some of them I know to be truthful in that regard), but I easily could count on one hand the amount that are or have been rangers fans and make it clear they completely disapprove of it.Last edited by WeeRussell; 12-03-2024 at 08:12 PM.
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But I’d probably suggest that of the Rangers support as a whole, the ones who would want and be able to get tickets for games at Easter Road are likely to be the most fetid, repulsive headbanger element of their support.
The more reasonable ones will probably be watching from home.
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12-03-2024 08:14 PM #57
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I know loads, some claim not to be interested, some claim to be against it, some I believe, some I don’t.
There’s also that weird West coast thing that’s hard to get your head around - where there’s a very thin line between hatred, humour and affection. They sort of hate each other but also love each other and thrive on the “banter” - very weird as an outsider looking in and weird when it’s exported elsewhere.
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