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    Poor choice of game to go for that. This has been self inflicted idiocy. Obita has been off it by a mile since minute 1 and that is a brain donor of a challenge from NMW.
    When you're playing against 11, plus a ref, plus the VAR guy, you tend to lose the plot, or not give a **** bc what's the point.


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    I think the main problem with the game in Scotland just now is that with the OF nip and tuck in the league and both in the latter stages of the cup it puts the microscope even more on referees and VAR.

    Most sane observers knew we were not going to win that game tonight. No matter what we did. On reflection looking at the threads, should any of us be surprised. No. But it doesn't stop frustration coming to the fore again.

    Imagine if the Foley money puts us in contention with the title in a couple of years.

    We won't be allowed anywhere near the Champions League cash.

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    True.

    I said at the start we would have to be very smart in this game, but we have been far from it.

    It must be said though that no matter what we did tonight we would never win this.

    Every 50/50 or even 60/40 decision in our favour went to the Hun. Doubt if anyone could question this.
    "Very smart" to win a game? ie we have to play the ref as well? So what, exactly, is the ****ing point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Se7enUp View Post
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    "Very smart" to win a game? ie we have to play the ref as well? So what, exactly, is the ****ing point?
    We need to do more than others to win big games. More often than not you need more than just a “good performance”.

    We weren’t brilliant tonight, but ultimately needed to be brilliant to overcome the extra hurdles put in our way.

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    "The officials had a bit of a bad day today, but everybody can have a bad day."

    More spineless **** from Montgomery and the club.

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    We need to do more than others to win big games. More often than not you need more than just a “good performance”.

    We weren’t brilliant tonight, but ultimately needed to be brilliant to overcome the extra hurdles put in our way.
    And that's ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chorley Hibee View Post
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    "The officials had a bit of a bad day today, but everybody can have a bad day."

    More spineless **** from Montgomery and the club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chorley Hibee View Post
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    "The officials had a bit of a bad day today, but everybody can have a bad day."

    More spineless **** from Montgomery and the club.
    Thats absolutely embarrassing. Gtf honestly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Hibby View Post
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    Hibs: we're getting major investment to bridge the financial gap..

    SFA: Let's make sure they don't forget who's in charge.
    Not wrong

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    If any hibs fans think they are getting either of those 3 decisions at ibrox then they are delusional beyond belief

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    Rangers don’t ever play Celtic first game of the season.

    No one knows how the refs are appointed for games. Some refs like Alan Muir never ref old firm teams - but can ref Hibs games ???

    VAR is all very hush hush.

    Decisions at Ibrox and Celtic Park are often very questionable.

    Hampden has a rangers end and Celtic end.

    The TV revolves around the Old Firm coverage.

    To say Scottish football is driven by Old Firm is an understatement.

    The refs are of a terrible standard and VAR has shown how incompetent and inconsistent they are.

    It’s making football in Scotland worse and sadly it won’t change until teams stand up to all the nonsense and call it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chorley Hibee View Post
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    "The officials had a bit of a bad day today, but everybody can have a bad day."

    More spineless **** from Montgomery and the club.
    Did you choose not to listen to the full interview. Frustrating, bemused, mentioned the Boyle pen claim v Celtic where he was booked and today we get a similar scenario against us. He was clearly dancing around what he wanted to say - what's the point in the manager running his mouth off and sitting in the stand in Dingwall on Wednesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee_girl View Post
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    Yep, he was screaming at the ref it was a head knock but the ref told him just to get up.
    Yeah, that's what I thought. The VAR guy has probably said to MacLean, aye its a foul, but outside the box. Not worthy of a red card, so don't worry about it, just carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chorley Hibee View Post
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    "The officials had a bit of a bad day today, but everybody can have a bad day."

    More spineless **** from Montgomery and the club.
    You are spot on. He's been weak in these interviews for a while, whilst week after week we are getting absolutely shafted by officials. Someone told me tonight that the club has decided deliberately to not call out decisions in interviews. Well what ****ing good is that doing? Absolutely none.

    So what if he gets a 2 match ban like Rodgers - its absolutely worth it (as Rodgers has also said - no regrets). Officials have to start thinking twice about screwing us over.

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    The one thing that proves our refs are just rubbish Boyle got taken off on a stretcher straight to hospital but when the incident occurred Ref didnt call for the medics to come on he just stood 5 yards away talking to a rangers player it took The Rangers keeper Butland to call the medics and tell them it was urgent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby's Cinema View Post
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    Did you choose not to listen to the full interview. Frustrating, bemused, mentioned the Boyle pen claim v Celtic where he was booked and today we get a similar scenario against us. He was clearly dancing around what he wanted to say - what's the point in the manager running his mouth off and sitting in the stand in Dingwall on Wednesday.
    Don't dance around the issue, call it out.

    They can stick him in the stand as much as they want, and we should continue calling it out again and again.

    Dancing around the issue has us in the situation where we've been screwed over against our 4 biggest rivals in the space of circa 6 weeks.

    We're soft as ***** and his pathetic interview is symptomatic of the entire club on this issue.

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    Straight red for not touching the player. Only in Scotland.

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    There's never been a level playing field in my lifetime when it comes to officialdom favouring the bigot brothers. However this season it seems to be getting worse. Every 50/50 call tonight went against us. There was no application of the rules eg when the hun left the pitch to celebrate after the second goal. The sheep and the minis have no chance of winning the cup this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebakerboy View Post
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    The one thing that proves our refs are just rubbish Boyle got taken off on a stretcher straight to hospital but when the incident occurred Ref didnt call for the medics to come on he just stood 5 yards away talking to a rangers player it took The Rangers keeper Butland to call the medics and tell them it was urgent.
    I dete fat red faced Souttar. He should have been booked on a number of occassions tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swedish hibee View Post
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    Straight red for not touching the player. Only in Scotland.
    Only time I've seen that happen before was Porteous at Ibrox. What a coincidence.

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    In addition to calling this out, I hope the club instruct the players to not shake the hand of any referee from now on. They don’t deserve the respect of a handshake. None of them. They aren’t respectable people. I’d be turning the heating and hot water off in the refs’ changing room too.

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    The standard of referees in Scotland is the absolute worst. We need a fan led revolution.

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    Very telling also to see Police Scotland filmimg and focussing on any potential misbehaviour from our fans at the bottom of the east. Meanwhile sustained chants of 'up to our knees in fenian blood' are left unchecked in the South Stand. It's disgusting and depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chorley Hibee View Post
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    Don't dance around the issue, call it out.

    They can stick him in the stand as much as they want, and we should continue calling it out again and again.

    Dancing around the issue has us in the situation where we've been screwed over against our 4 biggest rivals in the space of circa 6 weeks.

    We're soft as ***** and his pathetic interview is symptomatic of the entire club on this issue.
    We would just look like sore losers and every Rangers biased pundit and media hack would paint us as such. So we don't win. We make a lot of noise. Get punished - putting obstacles in front ourselves (manager in stand) for games. And nothing changes. Not a damn thing.

    We can only beat them on the pitch and that takes overcoming a lot of odds. We need a lot less naievity from the manager and the players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACLeith View Post
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    One trivial incident defined the instinctive bias. It wasn't down to interpretation, as the rule is 100% clear.

    The ball hit McLean as it was passed out to their wide man. Automatic decision - play must stop, drop ball that they would have received. But he played on, obviously because it was more helpful to them.

    Never affected the game, but proof positive, not that any was needed.
    If the ball goes to the team who would be getting the drop-ball then it’s fine to play on so nothing wrong with what he done in this instance. The rest of the decisions are a different matter

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    Of course it’s corrupt, there’s the blatant favouritism on the pitch, the audible bile pouring out of any stand that has them in it and everyone, the SFA, the SPFL, Sky, BBC, Police etc just pretend it isn’t happening.

    Hibs need to make an official complaint about the refereeing last night, not least the way Boyle was treated, then complain about the conduct of the Rangers fans.

    I’d also be looking at banning them from the ground for their next visit, then a policy of any further observable outbursts of bigotry leading to further bans. Make it very clear. Force it into the media conversation, attempt to bring other clubs onboard.

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    I don’t buy it’s the same treatment we get re both sets of the old firm. It’s much worse and getting more worse regarding Rangers. They’re desperate for them to win the league and cup so it’s no holds barred bias. Agree re banning the Rangers fans for anti Catholic singing with a banner on the south stand stating why. Complain yes but get together with other like minded clubs to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chippy View Post
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    I don’t buy it’s the same treatment we get re both sets of the old firm. It’s much worse and getting more worse regarding Rangers. They’re desperate for them to win the league and cup so it’s no holds barred bias. Agree re banning the Rangers fans for anti Catholic singing with a banner on the south stand stating why. Complain yes but get together with other like minded clubs to do so.
    You’re right, it’s gotten a huge deal worse in the last couple of seasons


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    Have a friend who worked in the BBC Sport Dept up until a few weeks ago, they were gobsmacked at the amount of ex the the the pundits were associated with the show and the most obvious bias shown in the department itself. Again, the corruption is in every thread of football in Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmith View Post
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    Have a friend who worked in the BBC Sport Dept up until a few weeks ago, they were gobsmacked at the amount of ex the the the pundits were associated with the show and the most obvious bias shown in the department itself. Again, the corruption is in every thread of football in Scotland.
    There was a comment before the game on the radio yesterday about the reason Rangers get so many penalties is they get lots of people in the box. It’s laughable.


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