VAR and biased refs

[Chorley Hibee]

****ed over against Celtic, Aberdeen, Hearts and Rangers in the space of around six weeks.

Go on Hibs, grow a ****ing spine and just call the *******s out for a change!

If not, then don't be surprised at how empty Easter Road will continue to be.

[Carheenlea]

Statements or displeasure being broadcast in media interviews holds little clout. It’s just ignored, or if deemed too critical, an invite to be admonished by the suits will be administered.

Needs something radical that will actually make people sit up and take notice. A withdrawal from next seasons Scottish Cup would be extreme, but one I’d support if it actually accelerated the debate into refereeing in this country.

Unlikely to happen of course, but it needs something other than hot air to start to be seriously investigated. The way we’re continually shafted makes us the obvious body to take the lead and say we’ve had enough.

[pacorosssco]

Needs managed outside sfa. Like serpicio said how can the police , police itself

[matty_f]

I don’t know how anyone can argue that it’s just incompetence anymore. 1 booking from 11 fouls for Rangers tonight. Boyle told to get up every time he was fouled. Every 50/50 went Rangers’ way and the referee managed the game by giving Rangers the benefit of the doubt at every turn and relied on VAR to overturn anything clear and obvious.

Hibs never once got the benefit of the doubt and a VAR check to see if the ref got it right.

Obita’s second yellow wasn’t even seen by the referee, he got the card out after Goldson told him to.

There is no way that referee was letting us win. His handling of the game is indefensible. Ignoring Boyle in a heap on the ground to play was probably the worst of it.

[HoboHarry]

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I don’t know how anyone can argue that it’s just incompetence anymore. 1 booking from 11 fouls for Rangers tonight. Boyle told to get up every time he was fouled. Every 50/50 went Rangers’ way and the referee managed the game by giving Rangers the benefit of the doubt at every turn and relied on VAR to overturn anything clear and obvious.

Hibs never once got the benefit of the doubt and a VAR check to see if the ref got it right.

Obita’s second yellow wasn’t even seen by the referee, he got the card out after Goldson told him to.

There is no way that referee was letting us win. His handling of the game is indefensible. Ignoring Boyle in a heap on the ground to play was probably the worst of it.

It isn't incompetence and never has been. Incompetence doesn't have a pattern and this clearly does, anyone who claims otherwise is doubling down on their agenda.

[Swedish hibee]

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I don’t know how anyone can argue that it’s just incompetence anymore. 1 booking from 11 fouls for Rangers tonight. Boyle told to get up every time he was fouled. Every 50/50 went Rangers’ way and the referee managed the game by giving Rangers the benefit of the doubt at every turn and relied on VAR to overturn anything clear and obvious.

Hibs never once got the benefit of the doubt and a VAR check to see if the ref got it right.

Obita’s second yellow wasn’t even seen by the referee, he got the card out after Goldson told him to.

There is no way that referee was letting us win. His handling of the game is indefensible. Ignoring Boyle in a heap on the ground to play was probably the worst of it.

Well said Matty.

[Donegal Hibby]

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It isn't incompetence and never has been. Incompetence doesn't have a pattern and this clearly does, anyone who claims otherwise is doubling down on their agenda.

[Manxhibs]

You could actually see the excitement in his eyes when sending NMW off. As Matty F says, we were never going to be allowed to win that game. This is the most dejected I’ve felt about Scottish football, not sure there’s a way back.

[blackpoolhibs]

It's a deep rooted corruption, it has become the norm to favour those bigots, they do it without even thinking now.

Even with the introduction of VAR, they dont care that it is being shown to the world, because they know nothing will happen as the authorities behind them are corrupt too, and they dont give a **** either.

[FastEddieFelson]

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Only Fish shook hands with McLean all the other players shunned him .
Never seen that before even the Beaton and Clancy

Marcondes shook his hand

[hibsbollah]

Between 7th February and 10th March, thats just 5 weeks, weve had our 4 biggest games of the season (Celtic, Aberdeen, Hearts and now Rangers) decided against us by the officials. And these arent borderline, maybe ayes maybe naws sort of decisions, they are scandalous decisions being made every single week.

4 in a MONTH. Let it sink in.
(Im actually forgetting Gollums bizarre penalty for nothing in the St Mirren debacle the week before too. We were getting nowt in that game because we were stinking, but the point remains).

[JimBHibees]

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Between 7th February and 10th March, thats just 5 weeks, weve had our 4 biggest games of the season (Celtic, Aberdeen, Hearts and now Rangers) decided against us by the officials. And these arent borderline, maybe ayes maybe naws sort of decisions, they are scandalous decisions being made every single week.

4 in a MONTH. Let it sink in.
(Im actually forgetting Gollums bizarre penalty for nothing in the St Mirren debacle the week before too. We were getting nowt in that game because we were stinking, but the point remains).

And expect it to continue in the next few weeks to keep us in bottom six.

[norhfc]

Funny thing is on social media both Celtic and Rangers fans claim its them that are the victims of a great conspiracy. They dont see the irony as they must see these decisions going for them every week. As someone else pointed out we have been shafted numerous times since xmas. We need to start asking for the audio at these VAR incidents, the ones that actually go to VAR.

[flash]

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****ed over against Celtic, Aberdeen, Hearts and Rangers in the space of around six weeks.

Go on Hibs, grow a ****ing spine and just call the *******s out for a change!

If not, then don't be surprised at how empty Easter Road will continue to be.

I hate crap like this. We have constantly complained about decisions and had a number of apologies as a result worthless as they are.

It's tedious beyond belief how a few posters use their own twisted agendas to tear into the club at every opportunity regardless of the truth.

[we are hibs]

It wasn't just all the big decisions yesterday either.


Twice in the first half Boyle was through and immediately flagged for offside. Aren't they supposed to keep the flag down and let it play out? Not when it could be detrimental to rangers though.

They are blatant with the major decisions and snide with ones like that too.

[Pretty Boy]

VAR just makes it worse.

You can pore over footage endlessly to find a reason to disallow a goal or award a penalty now. Look hard enough and you will find it. It also gives them an out when they make decisions clearly for the benefit of their favourites. If VAR looks at it then they can say it was looked at and the VAR officials agreed. Of course the VAR officials are part of the same racket so the system still works as intended.

The one that got me last night was their 2nd goalscorer not being booked. Left the park, climbed the advertising board and made contact with the crowd. Exactly the same thing McLean said he had no choice but to book Gray for in the 2016 final. Yet last night he apparently did have a choice and made it to favour Rangers. I'd be curious to know if that player was already on a booking that meant another yellow would have seen him miss the semi.

[147lothian]

VAR has to go, the ref getting called over then staying with the penalty decision, then not even looking at the second yellow for Obita was hard to take.

[hibee_girl]

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VAR has to go, the ref getting called over then staying with the penalty decision, then not even looking at the second yellow for Obita was hard to take.

I don’t think VAR can get involved with second yellows tbf

[DH1875]

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VAR has to go, the ref getting called over then staying with the penalty decision, then not even looking at the second yellow for Obita was hard to take.

Did he look at the penalty decision? I've totally missed it if he did.

[norhfc]

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It wasn't just all the big decisions yesterday either.


Twice in the first half Boyle was through and immediately flagged for offside. Aren't they supposed to keep the flag down and let it play out? Not when it could be detrimental to rangers though.

They are blatant with the major decisions and snide with ones like that too.

This, and the high boot in their box and the not booking Silva. It was all so obvious.

[Chorley Hibee]

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I hate crap like this. We have constantly complained about decisions and had a number of apologies as a result worthless as they are.

It's tedious beyond belief how a few posters use their own twisted agendas to tear into the club at every opportunity regardless of the truth.

When have we received a number of apologies?

When have we actually called them out for real rather than pussy footing around the issue.

Montgomery chose the latter option again last night because we have to "play by the rules" and his line about "officials having a bad day and everyone can have a bad day" just sweeps it all under the carpet once again.

I, and thousands of others based upon last night's attendance, have had enough of their cowardly attempts at dealing with this, and there are Hibs fans giving up on the club all together because of it.

So you can call it crap all you want, but when we're done over the next time, and the next time, then eventually you might just come round to the idea that we should be doing a damn sight more than we currently are.

My agenda is an end to the corruption in plain sight in Scottish football, and an end to Hibs giving it tacit approval.

Twisted? I don't think so.

[matty_f]

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When have we received a number of apologies?

When have we actually called them out for real rather than pussy footing around the issue.

Montgomery chose the latter option again last night because we have to "play by the rules" and his line about "officials having a bad day and everyone can have a bad day" just sweeps it all under the carpet once again.

I, and thousands of others based upon last night's attendance, have had enough of their cowardly attempts at dealing with this, and there are Hibs fans giving up on the club all together because of it.

So you can call it crap all you want, but when we're done over the next time, and the next time, then eventually you might just come round to the idea that we should be doing a damn sight more than we currently are.

I think Monty went as far as he could in the context of a week or so when the SFA have called on clubs to consider their words when referees have had threats against them, their families, and at their place of work in the wake of Celtic’s game against Hearts.

[wilkie_1]

MIC the refs!!!!!!!!!!! The only thing Hibs can suggest without sounding bitter. They have it in rugby , why not football? It can only be looked at as a positive change for all. At least we can understand their thinking ………but we know they won’t do this either, but at least it will show them up for the corruption as they will have no reasonable excuse for not allowing it.

[JimBHibees]

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Funny thing is on social media both Celtic and Rangers fans claim its them that are the victims of a great conspiracy. They dont see the irony as they must see these decisions going for them every week. As someone else pointed out we have been shafted numerous times since xmas. We need to start asking for the audio at these VAR incidents, the ones that actually go to VAR.

That should be a minimum would particularly be interested in the Clancy Muir chat last week.

[JimBHibees]

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VAR just makes it worse.

You can pore over footage endlessly to find a reason to disallow a goal or award a penalty now. Look hard enough and you will find it. It also gives them an out when they make decisions clearly for the benefit of their favourites. If VAR looks at it then they can say it was looked at and the VAR officials agreed. Of course the VAR officials are part of the same racket so the system still works as intended.

The one that got me last night was their 2nd goalscorer not being booked. Left the park, climbed the advertising board and made contact with the crowd. Exactly the same thing McLean said he had no choice but to book Gray for in the 2016 final. Yet last night he apparently did have a choice and made it to favour Rangers. I'd be curious to know if that player was already on a booking that meant another yellow would have seen him miss the semi.

Yes Silva was booked v Ayr in previous round and should have been red carded in that game.

[Diclonius]

The really, really sickening thing about last night was that NO FOUL was given for an incident that ****ing hospitalised Martin Boyle and the fact that he was knocked out was what probably saved him from being booked for diving.

[Callum_62]

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The really, really sickening thing about last night was that NO FOUL was given for an incident that ****ing hospitalised Martin Boyle and the fact that he was knocked out was what probably saved him from being booked for diving.

That was just an unfortunate coming together

The fact the rangers player was wrong side and pulled Boyle down doesn't matter

The slightest contact from a defender wrong side only matters when it's in Rangers favor

Hope that's now cleared that incident up

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[macca70]

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VAR just makes it worse.

You can pore over footage endlessly to find a reason to disallow a goal or award a penalty now. Look hard enough and you will find it. It also gives them an out when they make decisions clearly for the benefit of their favourites. If VAR looks at it then they can say it was looked at and the VAR officials agreed. Of course the VAR officials are part of the same racket so the system still works as intended.

The one that got me last night was their 2nd goalscorer not being booked. Left the park, climbed the advertising board and made contact with the crowd. Exactly the same thing McLean said he had no choice but to book Gray for in the 2016 final. Yet last night he apparently did have a choice and made it to favour Rangers. I'd be curious to know if that player was already on a booking that meant another yellow would have seen him miss the semi.

Exactly, whys Silva not booked for jumping the advertising to celebrate with the rangers fans. McLean was waiting on him coming back so i assumed he was getting ready to book him. He done nothing, probably congratulated him on scoring!!

11 fouls and their only booking was Roofe, who had actually only been on the park 1 minute and hadnt even touched the ball. It was probably the least deserving of a yellow out of all the rangers fouls as hibs player was heading back towards his own goal. Hibs had 7 fouls, which resulted in 4 bookings, 2 red cards and a penalty against us!!

There was a challenge on fish as he was charging forward, he was away from the rangers player and was clearly delibarately brought down as we were breaking through there press. No booking but hibs player had been booked 5 mins earlier for identical challenge!!

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Incidents like last night are happening all the time whereby a player himself is initiating contact so that a penalty is awarded. I'm sure if it given to us (no laughing) we'd be calling our player "clever" no doubt but it's unsporting and really frustrating to watch when it's against you

I guess what I'm trying to say is, there's a major problem with officials and technology, but players aren't blameless either.

[Gloucester Hibs]

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Exactly, whys Silva not booked for jumping the advertising to celebrate with the rangers fans. McLean was waiting on him coming back so i assumed he was getting ready to book him. He done nothing, probably congratulated him on scoring!!

11 fouls and their only booking was Roofe, who had actually only been on the park 1 minute and hadnt even touched the ball. It was probably the least deserving of a yellow out of all the rangers fouls as hibs player was heading back towards his own goal. Hibs had 7 fouls, which resulted in 4 bookings, 2 red cards and a penalty against us!!

There was a challenge on fish as he was charging forward, he was away from the rangers player and was clearly delibarately brought down as we were breaking through there press. No booking but hibs player had been booked 5 mins earlier for identical challenge!!

Was also a couple of occasions he blew for a free kick to us when it would’ve been better off playing the advantage as we were still in possession 🤔