Hibs and Hearts

[stoneyburn hibs]

Why do they have more fans/support than we do?
I don't know or care that they do.
Is it simply a Protestant culture?

[Ringothedog]

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Why do they have more fans/support than we do?
I don't know or care that they do.
Is it simply a Protestant culture?

Over the history of our clubs they have won more trophies and for the last 40 years have consistently been above us in the league and beat us regularly. They have also had a larger potential support( not by much) to call on. The historic Catholic/Protestant issues of which team to support have probably disappeared to a great degree, although it still exists.

[hibsbollah]

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Why do they have more fans/support than we do?
I don't know or care that they do.
Is it simply a Protestant culture?

A Dances with Wolves beat Goodfellas for the Best Picture Oscar one year.
Some people just like rubbish sometimes.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

They wanted us shut down back in the early days, absolute weirdos then and now 🖕

[Pagan Hibernia]

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Why do they have more fans/support than we do?
I don't know or care that they do.
Is it simply a Protestant culture?

They were always the club of 'respectable' Edinburgh, or at least that's how they've seen themselves. Hibs have from the very beginning been seen more as the outsider team.

And you know what, I'm happy with that.

[jakeshibs]

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Why do they have more fans/support than we do?
I don't know or care that they do.
Is it simply a Protestant culture?

Our support is a mixture of all religions, think consistency is probably the greater attraction.

[Bostonhibby]

All bigliness but no realistic way of proving it, in the current world there's only one team in Edinburgh that recently won both cups and it isn't the post administration poppy thieves.

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[stoneyburn hibs]

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A Dances with Wolves beat Goodfellas for the Best Picture Oscar one year.
Some people just like rubbish sometimes.

I don't think I'll get a better response, love it.

[DIXIHIBS]

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Why do they have more fans/support than we do?
I don't know or care that they do.
Is it simply a Protestant culture?

Don't be fooled that their support is hugely bigger than ours. Yes at the moment they are selling more than us but that's more to do with relative fortunes at the moment. The year after we won the cup we sold more STs than them and back in 70s we regularly had bigger crowds for example. If they had the same derby record as us over the last 40 years do you think their crowds would be the same. Not a chance. A good Hibs team for a few seasons coupled with a poor Hertz team and nobody would be talking about how 'big' they are.

[B.H.F.C]

***** thread. **** the Hearts.

[stoneyburn hibs]

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They were always the club of 'respectable' Edinburgh, or at least that's how they've seen themselves. Hibs have from the very beginning been seen more as the outsider team.

And you know what, I'm happy with that.

That's exactly where I am, and also happy with that.

[RIP]

They are easier to please

[Keith_M]

What a weird thread.

[stoneyburn hibs]

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What a weird thread.

Why?
It's a legitimate question.

[Bakerman]

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What a weird thread.

Keith, as you well know, it would be called out as weird and not so wonderful, in other countries, but we live in the football world of Scottish football dinosaurs, where Protestant v Catholic hatred still prevails. Rangers v Celtic, establishment v Irish Scottisn. It shouidn't be that way of course not, but the lanarkshire referees still have that establishment rules mantra, and it is why we get the Clancy treatment. Hopefully, with the Gordon's/Black Knights/Foley millions, they can effect change.

[Mcbizz1998]

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Why do they have more fans/support than we do?
I don't know or care that they do.
Is it simply a Protestant culture?

Do they? Not by very much if they do.

[Keith_M]

Sorry, 'weird' is a bit over the top.

I just think it's a bit strange to obsess over our rivals having a marginally bigger support.

I also think religion doesn't really play a part in it nowadays. Most if the Hibs fans I know are from a CoS or non-religious background (which covers my family, nearly all Hibbies)

[gbhibby]

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Why do they have more fans/support than we do?
I don't know or care that they do.
Is it simply a Protestant culture?

Was brought up in the West of the city did not know many catholics who supported Hearts, They guys who went to non dom schools tended to be Hearts or Rangers fans,a few did support Hibs but they were in the minority. However when you went to the North Edinburgh non dom schools there were a lot of Hibs fans. Went on holiday abroad and people from the West of Scotland couldn't understand how my Proddy friends were Hibs supporters. Geographically the west side of the city is the most populated part of Edinburgh. So it is a bit of everything. They have been times in the past where our average attendances have been bigger than theirs

[Bakerman]

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Sorry, 'weird' is a bit over the top.

I just think it's a bit strange to obsess over our rivals having a marginally bigger support.

I also think religious doesn't really play a part in it nowadays. Most if the Hibs fans I know are from a CoS or non-religious background (which covers my family, nearly all Hibbies)

You say 'nowadays', as if cultures deeply embedded within societies for centuries, are transformed within mere decades. I agree, that there are more Cos than ever, that support Hibernian, but they are mostly modernists, not from the villages and towns that support other such 'traditions', never mind the currants and yams. We need the billionaires like the Foley's of the world to pour the money in to Hibernian, make us the top tribe. the embedded modern folk.

[The Modfather]

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Why do they have more fans/support than we do?
I don't know or care that they do.
Is it simply a Protestant culture?

Protestant culture? Leave that kind of thing to Glasgow. They’ve been artificially inflated financially since the 80s. With the greater success (in terms of derby wins and 3rd places rather than translating to cups) which that brings.

[marinello59]

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Keith, as you well know, it would be called out as weird and not so wonderful, in other countries, but we live in the football world of Scottish football dinosaurs, where Protestant v Catholic hatred still prevails. Rangers v Celtic, establishment v Irish Scottisn. It shouidn't be that way of course not, but the lanarkshire referees still have that establishment rules mantra, and it is why we get the Clancy treatment. Hopefully, with the Gordon's/Black Knights/Foley millions, they can effect change.

I don’t think religion has any part to play in which Edinburgh team you support these days. There might be a ,minority on both sides who would like to see us copying the big two in Glasgow but the majority of us really don’t care.

[BILLYHIBS]

Ltyf

[JimBHibees]

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I don’t think religion has any part to play in which Edinburgh team you support these days. There might be a ,minority on both sides who would like to see us copying the big two in Glasgow but the majority of us really don’t care.

Absolutely spot on

[Bakerman]

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I don’t think religion has any part to play in which Edinburgh team you support these days. There might be a ,minority on both sides who would like to see us copying the big two in Glasgow but the majority of us really don’t care.

My post if you read it carefully, was actually about others who do see embedded religion, and bigotry as a relevant issue. I was calling out for the likes of Bill Foley to pour many of his millions into us, to change embedded bigotry, and embedded village town, lanarkshire referee culture.

A level playing field, is that too much to ask for?

[Sparrows tongue]

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My post if you read it carefully, was actually about others who do see embedded religion, and bigotry as a relevant issue. I was calling out for the likes of Bill Foley to pour many of his millions into us, to change embedded bigotry, and embedded village town, lanarkshire referee culture.

A level playing field, is that too much to ask for?

I can only assume that you would be asking for thousands of level playing fields?

Am I right?

[Bakerman]

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Ltyf

If I do get launched, it certainly won't be for being a yam Billy

[Stairway 2 7]

Apart from Polish guys I only know one practising catholic my age mid 30s and he's a hearts season ticket holder. Like homopbia your religion deciding what team you support in Edinburgh is thankfully dying out. Heard that rebel songs used to get sung at Easter Road, people would be baffled to hear that archaic pish there nowadays

Hibs won 4 cups in the last half century hearts 3, nothing to be impressed with. Hearts slightly higher attendances but minimal. Who cares either way. Two medium clubs in a pish league were not talking Barca Real here

[blackpoolhibs]

Lets see who has the biggest crowds when we are finishing higher than them and pumping them more often than not.

[leith lynx]

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Why do they have more fans/support than we do?
I don't know or care that they do.
Is it simply a Protestant culture?

Do they?....one of the great myths of Gorgie culture.

[Bakerman]

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Lets see who has the biggest crowds when we are finishing higher than them and pumping them more often than not.

Which is why we need the many millions of investment, higher level management and infrastructure, which is precisely what the Gordon's, Black Knights, and Bill Foley will provide us with.

Mon Hibs