Bad decisions against Hibs

[Donegal Hibby]

I'm not going to far back for mine which would be the goal Ross county got when Marshall was taken out or the penalty we should have had for a clear handball at Ibrox when we lead 2-1 .

Had our fair share of them over the years tbh . Is there any others that stick in your mind as being bad?

[eastterrace]

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I'm not going to far back for mine which would be the goal Ross county got when Marshall was taken out or the penalty we should have had for a clear handball at Ibrox when we lead 2-1 .

Had our fair share of them over the years tbh . Is there any others that stick in your mind as being bad?

Did Joe newell no get kicked in the head in the penalty area at ibrox and we got nothing.

[Wull]

I dare say every club could point to an incident, but we seem to be the whipping boys of the VAR system, I would be pleased to seethe back of it, justification to bias.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

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Did Joe newell no get kicked in the head in the penalty area at ibrox and we got nothing.

Yes he did, booted right in the head and a clear penalty appeal brushed under the carpet.

[JohnM1875]

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I dare say every club could point to an incident, but we seem to be the whipping boys of the VAR system, I would be pleased to seethe back of it, justification to bias.

Spot on in both points. Every team thinks everything is against them. Bizarrely even both of the uglies. Always laugh when I hear them going on about refereeing decisions.

[One Day Soon]

A 5-1 defeat to Aberdeen at home many years ago. The referee was some grey Einstein haired mother****er called Ferguson I recall.

In one game I think he managed to give them a penalty that wasn't, deny us a penalty that was, give them an offside goal, deny us an onside goal and liberally book Hibs players while avoiding any damage to Aberdeen. it may actually have been even worse than that.

Never been more angry at a game. Only time I seriously thought about waiting outside afterwards to give him a piece of my mind.

[Real Emerald]

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I'm not going to far back for mine which would be the goal Ross county got when Marshall was taken out or the penalty we should have had for a clear handball at Ibrox when we lead 2-1 .

Had our fair share of them over the years tbh . Is there any others that stick in your mind as being bad?

It would be great if someone had the time and access to footage to put a video together of the ones we should have got and ones that were given against us.

The trouble is the officials and the west coast commentators can always find a way to justify their decisions. If its for us then its not enough contact to award it, if its against the old firm then there was contact so the ref had to give it etc. The problem I have is the amount of times we don’t get a review and our bad calls seem to be happening against every team with nothing coming back our way. Why?

[Donegal Hibby]

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Did Joe newell no get kicked in the head in the penalty area at ibrox and we got nothing.

Couldn't actually remember that though see B4B-U says he did though , it did make me remember Morelos stamp on porto which he got away with at the time i think 🤔

[truehibernian]

I don’t even think the first penalty was a penalty and totally agree with NM. The ball is a contested ball which both players go for and there’s a clash of heads - one player cones off worst. For me it’s a drop ball in the box. Second one was a penalty, all the more hauling that Kyogo’s shot was straight at Marsh and I don’t think Joe’s tackle was necessary or changed any direction of the shot.

[Hibernia&Alba]

The Leigh Griffiths free kick against Hearts that was two feet over the line.

[JohnM1875]

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I don’t even think the first penalty was a penalty and totally agree with NM. The ball is a contested ball which both players go for and there’s a clash of heads - one player cones off worst. For me it’s a drop ball in the box. Second one was a penalty, all the more hauling that Kyogo’s shot was straight at Marsh and I don’t think Joe’s tackle was necessary or changed any direction of the shot.

Rodgers said he'd no idea what the first was given for as well.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

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A 5-1 defeat to Aberdeen at home many years ago. The referee was some grey Einstein haired mother****er called Ferguson I recall.

In one game I think he managed to give them a penalty that wasn't, deny us a penalty that was, give them an offside goal, deny us an onside goal and liberally book Hibs players while avoiding any damage to Aberdeen. it may actually have been even worse than that.

Never been more angry at a game. Only time I seriously thought about waiting outside afterwards to give him a piece of my mind.

I remember that game, was an absolute disgrace, even Alex Ferguson was embarrassed

[truehibernian]

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I remember that game, was an absolute disgrace, even Alex Ferguson was embarrassed

Nick Walsh couldn’t wait to give it, also pulling Obita up ‘for a word’ just so he gets a wee close up on Sky too - his yellow was out before Martin landed on the deck too (if MB hadn’t been so theatric and just gone down it would have gone to VAR and it’s a penalty) - if Lennon thought Walsh had a great game then he’s clearly back on the bevvy !!

[147lothian]

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Rodgers said he'd no idea what the first was given for as well.

At least he's being honest, I still can't get over losing that game the first penalty was a joke, the second one would never have been given if it wasn't for VAR, it was a sign of the times we are living.

[ancient hibee]

On Wednesday Celtic had the highest foul count (in BBC Stats)of any SPFL team at 18-we had 14. Quiz question -which team had 4 yellow cards and which team had 2?

[truehibernian]

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At least he's being honest, I still can't get over losing that game the first penalty was a joke, the second one would never have been given if it wasn't for VAR, it was a sign of the times we are living.

It’s a good use of VAR though as it was a penalty - the ineptness of how we run it here is there wasn’t even checks for the first one or Martin’s. That’s the fault in the system here, the officials. Hibs should grow a pair and challenge that.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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I'm not going to far back for mine which would be the goal Ross county got when Marshall was taken out or the penalty we should have had for a clear handball at Ibrox when we lead 2-1 .

Had our fair share of them over the years tbh . Is there any others that stick in your mind as being bad?

Rangers scoring whilst Andy Goram was knocked unconscious (was it Hateley?).

Hateley elbowing GBH to be left alone to slot home. There’s a theme there he was an absolute beast.

[Hiber-nation]

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The Leigh Griffiths free kick against Hearts that was two feet over the line.

That's one of the worst along with the Paul Fenwick/Bobo Balde incident.

[Carheenlea]

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The Leigh Griffiths free kick against Hearts that was two feet over the line.

I remember that being the first time I was able to access a still image within a minute or so which showed the ball a yard over the goal line.

Felt like space age technology being sent a photo on the phone from a friend watching on TV. As the image was shared with those sat around you could see others with similar technology passing phones about before the East was a sea of red faces as blood pressure rose and anger erupted as the miscarriage of justice became clear!

[Kato]

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I remember that being the first time I was able to access a still image within a minute or so which showed the ball a yard over the goal line.

Felt like space age technology being sent a photo on the phone from a friend watching on TV. As the image was shared with those sat around you could see others with similar technology passing phones about before the East was a sea of red faces as blood pressure rose and anger erupted as the miscarriage of justice became clear!

Linesman told the players it wasn't over then after said he hadn't seen.

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[Waxy]

If last night was flipped and the Celtic guy headed a Hibs defender like that it wouldnt be seen as a foul.
How can an unfortunate clash of heads be given as afoul?
In every clash of of heads someone goes in with a bit more force.
Havent seen anyone penalised for it for a penalty until last night.
Then the second one.If it was us it wouldnt have been mentioned and swept under the carpet.
I wonder if the var team are listening to the commentators as they watch?

[Wull]

I dare say every club could point to an incident, but we seem to be the whipping boys of the VAR system, I would be pleased to seethe back of it, justification to bias.

[BILLYHIBS]

Was Olly Shaw’s shot at Tiny no over the line ?

[Kato]

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Was Olly Shaw’s shot at Tiny no over the line ?

...also Cummings in the 2 all Scottish Cup game, not offside. Jordan Foster goal called offside when he was 4 or 5 yards on. Darren McGregor header at ER.

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[BILLYHIBS]

Referee allowing play to continue at Parkhead when Jim Leighton was off injured and Hibs were contemplating putting Darren Jackson in goal effectively a free hit

Who knew ?

[Jim44]

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I dare say every club could point to an incident, but we seem to be the whipping boys of the VAR system, I would be pleased to seethe back of it, justification to bias.

The best and most appropriate typo or auto-correct I’ve seen for a while.

[21sMay]

Since the introduction of VAR, the ones I remember that stand out.

1. Aberdeen away, duk penalty.
2. Foul on Marshall away at Ross county.
3. Jeggo sent off at mcdirmaid park.
4. Foul on vente for Killie goal
5. Boyle semi final
6. Penalty given to st mirren in paisley
7. Boyle last night
8. Hand ball last night .

Probably many,many more but that's just off the top of my head . Loads of points lost during that run due to these decisions

[Diclonius]

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...also Cummings in the 2 all Scottish Cup game, not offside. Jordan Foster goal called offside when he was 4 or 5 yards on. Darren McGregor header at ER.

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Can only think of one equivalent bad decision for them - Dikamona last minute header ruled out because one of their offside players was ostensibly interfering with play.

That's it.

[wookie70]

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If last night was flipped and the Celtic guy headed a Hibs defender like that it wouldnt be seen as a foul.
How can an unfortunate clash of heads be given as afoul?
In every clash of of heads someone goes in with a bit more force.
Havent seen anyone penalised for it for a penalty until last night.
Then the second one.If it was us it wouldnt have been mentioned and swept under the carpet.
I wonder if the var team are listening to the commentators as they watch?

First time I have seen a penalty like the first too. If you use the explanation some of the pundits did that it was like a tackle with a player arriving slightly late then that would be applied to any part of the body surely. Barring free headers there would be a foul every time a player headed the ball. I'd bet we won't ever see one of those again and no chance any team outside the Uglies gets that award. The winner was another that you will see lots of similar tackles where the shot gets away and there is contact afterwards. Our two were far more obvious penalties and we ended up with a player booked.

[LaMotta]

List since Var came in. Videos linked for older clips to jog memory.

VAR Gets it obviously wrong against us:

• Sands clear handball v Rangers at Ibrox in box. No on field decision, VAR ignored - https://twitter.com/Chrisfinn2703/st...21115540459520
• Duk Dives at Pittodrie in box - VAR looks at the dive for 4 minutes then concludes penalty - https://twitter.com/fergus_wright/st...32193370583041
• Marshall clearly fouled at Ross County - no foul given, goal for Ross county and costs us the win - https://twitter.com/Barlosthecat/sta...40363126755328
• Youan sent off at Celtic for being fouled himself - second yellow, not sure if VAR can intervene - but if not why not - https://twitter.com/Malky1875/status...14596640129025
• Rubezic elbow on Youan when we beat Aberdeen - Clear red - VAR ignores. https://twitter.com/Barlosthecat/sta...888321/video/1
• Ventes goal bound shot handled v Hearts - No red despite it stopping a goal.
• Vente Own Goal at Killie - Clearly fouled, VAR ignores
• St Mirren Penalty at ER -penalty given despite no evidence it hits hand and also that it comes off thigh first.
• Maolida shirt pull v St Mirren - VAR ignores clear foul in box, despite numerous shirt pulls being given all season.
• Boyle clipped v Celtic in box - Booked for diving and No VAR check
• Ralston Handball in box v Celtic- No VAR check.

I've probably missed some.

Another dodgy one is the Boyle offside in the semi v Sheep. Camera at Hampdens' missing so lines drawn from a ridiculous angle. Still not convinced he was off. Also Vente challenged by keeper in same game, no pen - same challenge next day penalty to Rangers.

When has it genuinely helped us? Not very often. 2 red cards v Killie - both debatable but not clear errors. Red Card for Cochrane in derby at Tynie, but then takes away pen, so mixed. Not really a great benefit as Red was the right decision. Have I missed any in our favour? If I have it wont come near to equalling the list above.