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    Changes to Articles of Association

    As per resolution 6 of the AGM notice there will be a special resolution vote on changes to the Articles of Association which are to be adopted.

    Link to new articles:

    https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/Articles-of-Association-2024.pdf

    It seems we have many Accountants on the forum but do we have any legal big wigs able to peruse through the attached and summarise any changes (unsure what the current articles state).

    It seems confidence in the owners and Kensell are at a bit of an ebb at the moment so scrutiny on any changes needs to be thorough before the horse has bolted


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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gubbz View Post
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    As per resolution 6 of the AGM notice there will be a special resolution vote on changes to the Articles of Association which are to be adopted.

    Link to new articles:

    https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/Articles-of-Association-2024.pdf

    It seems we have many Accountants on the forum but do we have any legal big wigs able to peruse through the attached and summarise any changes (unsure what the current articles state).

    It seems confidence in the owners and Kensell are at a bit of an ebb at the moment so scrutiny on any changes needs to be thorough before the horse has bolted
    Good question. Would be interested to see the detail to scrutinise it.
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    Not sure of the detail....I'm on that.... but there's another ****-up.

    The version on the website has "notes and comments" (presumably from the solicitors), which suggest that this is not the final version.

    Pretty appalling IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Not sure of the detail....I'm on that.... but there's another ****-up.

    The version on the website has "notes and comments" (presumably from the solicitors), which suggest that this is not the final version.

    Pretty appalling IMO.
    You say po-tay-to, I say po-taa-to.

    Along with the management accounts you could call it a greater degree of openness and transparency...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloryGlory View Post
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    You say po-tay-to, I say po-taa-to.

    Along with the management accounts you could call it a greater degree of openness and transparency...
    ...not when it's showing the comments of the solicitor it ain't.

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    I don't see anything too exciting in there.

    There is the reference now to majority shareholder directors and investor directors, with the investor being able to appoint up to 2 directors. Decisions can only be made (quorum) if there's at least 1 majority shareholder director and 1 investor director in attendance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Not sure of the detail....I'm on that.... but there's another ****-up.

    The version on the website has "notes and comments" (presumably from the solicitors), which suggest that this is not the final version.

    Pretty appalling IMO.
    That's just incredible. Hopefully someone has spotted it.

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    I think I have spotted it.

    There's a clause in the proposed Articles that refers to the increase in the Share Capital.

    The Directors are generally and unconditionally authorised in accordance with
    Section 551 of the Act to exercise all the powers of the Company to offer, allot,
    grant options over Ordinary Shares and/or rights to subscribe for or convert
    securities into Ordinary Shares or otherwise dispose of any Ordinary Shares up to
    an aggregate nominal value of £3,121,887.92 to such persons, at such times and for
    such consideration as the Directors may determine but so that no Share shall be
    issued in contravention of Section 553 of the Act.


    The number in bold is the number that the Turquoise people are being allotted in the other (Ordinary) Resolution.

    So... my reading of that is that, without this particular (75%) vote, the new shares can't be issued and the whole deal falls. It probably won't, but it's a bit sneaky of the Club to do it this way (ie hide it in the middle of the Articles, where nobody with a life will read it) rather than being more explicit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    I think I have spotted it.

    There's a clause in the proposed Articles that refers to the increase in the Authorised Share Capital.

    The Directors are generally and unconditionally authorised in accordance with
    Section 551 of the Act to exercise all the powers of the Company to offer, allot,
    grant options over Ordinary Shares and/or rights to subscribe for or convert
    securities into Ordinary Shares or otherwise dispose of any Ordinary Shares up to
    an aggregate nominal value of £3,121,887.92 to such persons, at such times and for
    such consideration as the Directors may determine but so that no Share shall be
    issued in contravention of Section 553 of the Act.


    The number in bold is the number that the Turquoise people are being allotted in the other (Ordinary) Resolution.

    So... my reading of that is that, without this particular (75%) vote, the new shares can't be issued and the whole deal falls. It probably won't, but it's a bit sneaky of the Club to do it this way (ie hide it in the middle of the Articles, where nobody with a life will read it) rather than being more explicit.


    Wasn’t that point made the AGM points to be voted on, that if certain points failed to be passed, then the debt for equity and investment actions wouldn’t/couldn’t take place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    Wasn’t that point made the AGM points to be voted on, that if certain points failed to be passed, then the debt for equity and investment actions wouldn’t/couldn’t take place?
    It was, but probably isn't as explicit as it could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    It was, but probably isn't as explicit as it could be.


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    Not sure of the detail....I'm on that.... but there's another ****-up.

    The version on the website has "notes and comments" (presumably from the solicitors), which suggest that this is not the final version.

    Pretty appalling IMO.


    Just when I think I can't love Hibs anymore.

    This along with the accounts **** up is just proof we are the most mentally out there club going. Corporate confidentiality and protecting sensitive information is for establishment drones like Hearts
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    It was, but probably isn't as explicit as it could be.
    It must have been because even i picked up on it and understood it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    It must have been because even i picked up on it and understood it.
    Since you put it that way.....

    Having a grumpy day.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Not sure of the detail....I'm on that.... but there's another ****-up.

    The version on the website has "notes and comments" (presumably from the solicitors), which suggest that this is not the final version.

    Pretty appalling IMO.

    That is very funny but also disturbingly amateurish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gubbz View Post
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    As per resolution 6 of the AGM notice there will be a special resolution vote on changes to the Articles of Association which are to be adopted.

    Link to new articles:

    https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/Articles-of-Association-2024.pdf

    It seems we have many Accountants on the forum but do we have any legal big wigs able to peruse through the attached and summarise any changes (unsure what the current articles state).

    It seems confidence in the owners and Kensell are at a bit of an ebb at the moment so scrutiny on any changes needs to be thorough before the horse has bolted
    My biggest concern here is the affect all this will have with my stake in Hibs.

    Until I transferred 50% of my shares over to my daughter my investment was worth £7. Now it’s only £3.50.

    Does the foregoing mean that I might gave to face up to a dilution of my asset - with recent form on the field this might push me over the edge 🤭

    I’m just searching for my coat and I’ll be gone soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scm70nyd1973 View Post
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    My biggest concern here is the affect all this will have with my stake in Hibs.

    Until I transferred 50% of my shares over to my daughter my investment was worth £7. Now it’s only £3.50.

    Does the foregoing mean that I might gave to face up to a dilution of my asset - with recent form on the field this might push me over the edge 🤭

    I’m just searching for my coat and I’ll be gone soon.
    Get financial advice, mate.

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    Already engaged both - I’m feeling so much better now - can’t wait for tonight now - what could possibly go wrong 🫢

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    Have they uploaded a new version? I'm not seeing any comments on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by overdrive View Post
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    Have they uploaded a new version? I'm not seeing any comments on it
    There's a wee discussion (presumably between the lawyers) at the foot of Page 24.

    The file-name (at the very top of the document) also suggests it's a template, turned in to a draft.

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    For those of us who are neither lawyers or accountants, whit the **** are articles of association?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    For those of us who are neither lawyers or accountants, whit the **** are articles of association?
    Basically, the rules each company sets for itself.

    They define such things as directors' and shareholders' rights, meeting procedures etc.

    Another word might be "constitution"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Basically, the rules each company sets for itself.

    They define such things as directors' and shareholders' rights, meeting procedures etc.

    Another word might be "constitution"
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    There's a wee discussion (presumably between the lawyers) at the foot of Page 24.

    The file-name (at the very top of the document) also suggests it's a template, turned in to a draft.
    Right enough. Cheers

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    The Articles have now been corrected.

    In other news, the uploading of the Management Information with the accounts was deliberate on the Club's part.

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