"Mystery" Penalty

[Criswell]

Even the Sportscene panel are totally mystfied as to what Gollum has given it for. Strange how VAR can give an offside decision when a players toenail has strayed too far and yet cannot see when a defender has got a huge bit of a players shirt and is dragging him back as what happened today. Seems to me it is the colour of the shirt which is paramount.

[Jones28]

Did they comment on our non penalty?

[AL-Qaholik]

It’s a pathetic rule but, by that pathetic rule, it’s probably a penalty.
Yet another way in which the soul of football is being ripped away - especially for those daft enough to pay their hard-earned cash to attend in person…

[Callum_62]

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It’s a pathetic rule but, by that pathetic rule, it’s probably a penalty.
Yet another way in which the soul of football is being ripped away - especially for those daft enough to pay their hard-earned cash to attend in person…

I've no idea how we can reach a point where we have a penalty given that no one even claimed for and another one in the same box not given when the guys shirt is being pulled off his back

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[Carheenlea]

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It’s a pathetic rule but, by that pathetic rule, it’s probably a penalty.
Yet another way in which the soul of football is being ripped away - especially for those daft enough to pay their hard-earned cash to attend in person…

What was the penalty actually awarded for? Saw nothing at the game to even suggest an offence may have taken place.

[AL-Qaholik]

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What was the penalty actually awarded for? Saw nothing at the game to even suggest an offence may have taken place.

Triantis hand in an “unnatural” position as the ball was headed back across for the shot.
Ball barely grazes him.
It’s bo**ocks, but that’s the current “guidelines”.

[wookie70]

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What was the penalty actually awarded for? Saw nothing at the game to even suggest an offence may have taken place.

Collum gave it straight away. It may well have hit his thigh first so not a pen as I understand the rules. If decisions against us even themselves out next year we may win the league. Look at the pen they got for a tug on the shirt at Paisley in comparison. We are utter dross but the refereeing decisions against us continue to add to our woes

[Donegal Hibby]

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I've no idea how we can reach a point where we have a penalty given that no one even claimed for and another one in the same box not given when the guys shirt is being pulled off his back

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One where the player knows nothing about it and the other where the player knows exactly what he's doing !

[JJP]

Ah well. At least it didn't matter this time. We were getting nothing from the game today regardless.

[Carheenlea]

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Triantis hand in an “unnatural” position as the ball was headed back across for the shot.
Ball barely grazes him.
It’s bo**ocks, but that’s the current “guidelines”.

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Collum gave it straight away. It may well have hit his thigh first so not a pen as I understand the rules. If decisions against us even themselves out next year we may win the league. Look at the pen they got for a tug on the shirt at Paisley in comparison. We are utter dross but the refereeing decisions against us continue to add to our woes

Thanks. I have no appetite to view the highlights!

[Callum_62]

Nonsense decision according to Peter Grant and Neil Mccann

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[matty_f]

The handball looked soft as anything but the failure to give one to us is baffling. Blatant shirt pulling which we know is a penalty because of the one we conceded against St Mirren.

[Kato]

Forgetting our brutal performance (trying to) the technical side of the officiating is highly shady in our games overall. Today is just another demonstration of that. We don't get the important decisions other teams get and a few decisions against us are just plucked out of thin air.

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[LaMotta]

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The handball looked soft as anything but the failure to give one to us is baffling. Blatant shirt pulling which we know is a penalty because of the one we conceded against St Mirren.

This in spades.

What the *** is the point of VAR - if it isn't consistently giving the same decisions for identical scenarios then its absolutely pointless. It solves nothing.

[LaMotta]

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Forgetting our brutal performance (trying to) the technical side of the officiating is highly shady in our games overall. Today is just another demonstration of that. We don't get the important decisions other teams get and a few decisions against us are just plucked out of thin air.

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You are totally correct - have to ask why the club doesn't call it out though? Weak stuff. Monty doesn't mention the fact Killies first goal was a blatant foul last week (contrast that with McInnes whining in the media about the sending off which was far more of a 50/50 decision). No mention from Monty today that we should have had a blatant penalty for the shirt pull. He isn't showing anything to suggest he is a good football manager.

[Greensunshine]

Shocking decision for the penalty and there was one similar for Hearts given.

What ever happened to the indirect free kick inside the box when a ball hits the arm unintentionally?

They’ve ruined football

[Forza Fred]

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Shocking decision for the penalty and there was one similar for Hearts given.

What ever happened to the indirect free kick inside the box when a ball hits the arm unintentionally?

They’ve ruined football

It never existed?

[Greensunshine]

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It never existed?

They might want to take a look at implementing it then because they are destroying the game I used to love.

[cubehindthegoal]

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Even the Sportscene panel are totally mystfied as to what Gollum has given it for. Strange how VAR can give an offside decision when a players toenail has strayed too far and yet cannot see when a defender has got a huge bit of a players shirt and is dragging him back as what happened today. Seems to me it is the colour of the shirt which is paramount.

Hibs should ask for the audio and the media will then run the story for days and days until justice is served for their team … oh hang on … we are the wrong team … 🤨

[Onion]

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Triantis hand in an “unnatural” position as the ball was headed back across for the shot.
Ball barely grazes him.
It’s bo**ocks, but that’s the current “guidelines”.

Whole thing was a nonsense. Not one single St M player shouted for a penalty, yet the ref (and VAR) see something that's so heinous it deserves a spot kick.

[Carheenlea]

While it was as bad a performance as we’ve seen at Easter Road, the phantom penalty award has been a big contributing factor in the outcome.

One down at home then you give the opposition a free goal. Whole narrative of game has been changed and confidence drains and dissent builds from the stands. The third killed it, but their job was made so much easier with assistance of officials in the awarding of a penalty out of thin air.

[percy veer]

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The handball looked soft as anything but the failure to give one to us is baffling. Blatant shirt pulling which we know is a penalty because of the one we conceded against St Mirren.

Sadly don't dive don't get it, should have jumped I the air minute contact was felt, that's where we are at the moment other teams play the game we are too honest

[Carheenlea]

The time is perhaps coming where the penalty award is something that might need to be removed from football.

It where most of the cheating revolves around with diving and the most contentious decisions are made subject to individual officials and teams involved.

What is deemed a penalty one week is not deemed a penalty the next. A challenge is deemed a penalty for some clubs but same challenge is not a penalty for others. For hand balls nobody seems to have a clue what’s a handball and what’s not. The rule changes week to week depending on official.

The game might be better all round, and fairer if the penalty is done away with and a foul awarded instead in the box. Won’t stop cheating to try and “win” free kicks in dangerous areas close to goal, but the chances of losing a goal for effectively nothing are a bit less.

[Zazu62]

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The time is perhaps coming where the penalty award is something that might need to be removed from football.

It where most of the cheating revolves around with diving and the most contentious decisions are made subject to individual officials and teams involved.

What is deemed a penalty one week is not deemed a penalty the next. A challenge is deemed a penalty for some clubs but same challenge is not a penalty for others. For hand balls nobody seems to have a clue what’s a handball and what’s not. The rule changes week to week depending on official.

The game might be better all round, and fairer if the penalty is done away with and a foul awarded instead in the box. Won’t stop cheating to try and “win” free kicks in dangerous areas close to goal, but the chances of losing a goal for effectively nothing are a bit less.

I’ve never thought about it like that before. Actually quite a good idea

[where'stheslope]

Collum is a law unto himself!
When he's on VAR duty, he tells the ref to go to the monitor as he feels it should be a pen!
When he's on the pitch, he's in charge and the VAR ref does what he tells them!!!!
Either way, he's a clown that needs taken down a peg or two!!!!

[Greensunshine]

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The time is perhaps coming where the penalty award is something that might need to be removed from football.

It where most of the cheating revolves around with diving and the most contentious decisions are made subject to individual officials and teams involved.

What is deemed a penalty one week is not deemed a penalty the next. A challenge is deemed a penalty for some clubs but same challenge is not a penalty for others. For hand balls nobody seems to have a clue what’s a handball and what’s not. The rule changes week to week depending on official.

The game might be better all round, and fairer if the penalty is done away with and a foul awarded instead in the box. Won’t stop cheating to try and “win” free kicks in dangerous areas close to goal, but the chances of losing a goal for effectively nothing are a bit less.

I know what a penalty is and should be. When a player deliberately handles or blocks with his arm, that’s a penalty. When it hits an arm and it’s not deliberate then that’s not a penalty, especially when it’s hammered off you from a yard away.
Refs who can’t differentiate need to be dropped. They are making a mockery of the game by not using the one thing they all seem to lack….. common sense!

[wookie70]

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I know what a penalty is and should be. When a player deliberately handles or blocks with his arm, that’s a penalty. When it hits an arm and it’s not deliberate then that’s not a penalty, especially when it’s hammered off you from a yard away.
Refs who can’t differentiate need to be dropped. They are making a mockery of the game by not using the one thing they all seem to lack….. common sense!

You know what a penalty should be but that is not what it is in the laws of the game. I think most fans would agree that they have taken the odd decision for handball in the box that used to annoy fans and turned it into a weekly fiasco where games are decided by a bit of luck and a slight touch on a hand that was in a perfectly natural position for the movement a player is making.

The best way to take advantage of that is to get the ball in the box as often as you can at a height it can hit hands, also make sure you are not wearing a green top if you want a decision. Football seems to revolve around statistics these days and managers wanting teams to have possession etc but by far the majority of games are won with 12 yards of the goal and the more you put the ball in that area the higher a chance you have of scoring and getting penalties.

[ChilliEater]

Theoretically, I like the idea of rules that are a clear yes or no without any need for a ref's interpretation. Hit the hand? Shirt pulled? Penalty. Should lead to consistent decision making rather than ref's saying that Goldson didn't mean it but Hanlon did. In reality, it's been awful. And still inconsistent.

[Tyler Durden]

For Collum not to be asked to go look at this penalty was a joke.

Just this weekend you have Celtic getting away with a blatant red card. A second booking not given against Nawrocki by Steven McClean. Same ref couldn’t wait to give Youan two yellows at Parkhead last season.

Then Rangers first goal should obviously have been disallowed yesterday but shock… it stands.

I used to laugh when people said this but it does make you consider jacking the whole thing in. Football is bad enough without getting shafted by the refs week after week

[Carheenlea]

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For Collum not to be asked to go look at this penalty was a joke.

Just this weekend you have Celtic getting away with a blatant red card. A second booking not given against Nawrocki by Steven McClean. Same ref couldn’t wait to give Youan two yellows at Parkhead last season.

Then Rangers first goal should obviously have been disallowed yesterday but shock… it stands.

I used to laugh when people said this but it does make you consider jacking the whole thing in. Football is bad enough without getting shafted by the refs week after week

It’s a two tier refereeing system. We’ve accepted it for years and continue to accept it.

The will from clubs doesn’t appear to be there to challenge this situation. Of course, the one club who did challenge it recently was Rangers, who were basically voicing concerns that the two tier system that is skewed in theirs and Celtic’s favour would be in danger of evaporating a little bit if the status quo was not adhered to.