The Orange Order

[gbhibby]

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Living in England its hard to believe how sectarian Scotland is. On a football message board up north it comes up every other day. In England its a total non subject. Genuinely shocked.

I am sure they inflict a march on the population of Blackpool. I was on holiday a number of years ago and got chatting to some Man Utd fans who could not get their heads around my pal being a Protestant and being a Hibs fan.

[Kato]

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Projection.

Totally. Because every day, probably every hour their more fevered members think about how much they hate Catholics and Catholicism. Like, we're not all living in medieval times, ya bumpkins.

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[Alex Trager]

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Should have that sign outside the turnstiles to The South

Hibs did put up a sign of ‘must not bring into the ground’s over the summer. We should ask for the orange man to be added.

[Victor]

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How big a banner would it be possible to make, with this on it, for the next Rangers match? Or could we have one of those displays where everyone in the east stand has a bit of the display on their seat? ( I know there is a name for it, but I can’t be bothered researching it). Also I think this should be displayed in every pub in the Easter Road area on Rangers match days.

[Lancs Harp]

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I am sure they inflict a march on the population of Blackpool. I was on holiday a number of years ago and got chatting to some Man Utd fans who could not get their heads around my pal being a Protestant and being a Hibs fan.

Born and bred in Blackpool mate never heard of such a thing. Will say however Rangers have a big support in Blackpool

[Glory Lurker]

Man. Can't us atheists just be left alone to get on with our lives?

[Bostonhibby]

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Man. Can't us atheists just be left alone to get on with our lives?

Agnostic atheism is the future

Is there enough of us to challenge the Fat guys in bowler hats to a tug of war instead of all that idiotic marching about dressed as Captain Mainwaring in his day job?

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[gbhibby]

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Born and bred in Blackpool mate never heard of such a thing. Will say however Rangers have a big support in Blackpool

https://youtu.be/UbYd_0Led1U?si=ysNytCacMvjMoqQb

As well as Blackpool they march in Benidorm and Southport


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[mcohibs]

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Man. Can't us atheists just be left alone to get on with our lives?

I know. God help us.

[McD]

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I just can't be arsed worrying that much about what other people believe.

I'm a Catholic and the family on my maternal side all were. My dad is nominally Church of Scotland but never attends services, my wife is nominally Anglican but in reality an atheist, my kids were baptised Catholic but can believe what they like when they get older.

I really don't give a toss if someone is Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim, agnostic, atheist or anything in between and it's not something I would ever ask anyone because it's not a deal breaker for me in any way. It's the people who weaponise any of that to hate others that I take issue with and the OO fall into that bracket imo. Most of the Protestants I know seem to feel the same way, they are a pretty niche little group that almost no one outside their own has much time for.

Great post PB, and an excellent description of how most sensible and non-bigoted people go about their lives.

[Lancs Harp]

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https://youtu.be/UbYd_0Led1U?si=ysNytCacMvjMoqQb

As well as Blackpool they march in Benidorm and Southport


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Back in 2011 and news to me mate.

[Bostonhibby]

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I know. God help us.

Praise be to the.........?????????

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[gbhibby]

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Back in 2011 and news to me mate.

Saw another video of a march which took place more recently in Blackpool can't find it though. There are Orange marches in a number of places I think Manchester and Burnley have Marches. I had a relation that moved to Manchester in the late 70s and was surprised at the level of bigotry at time he encountered in Manchester.

[Tambo]

Can't help but laugh at this report to the police.

They have a march here in my hometown of Corby and there is also a loyalist flute band, plenty of Fenian this Fenian that also.

Half of them don't even have a clue about rangers.

[Lancs Harp]

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Can't help but laugh at this report to the police.

They have a march here in my hometown of Corby and there is also a loyalist flute band, plenty of Fenian this Fenian that also.

Half of them don't even have a clue about rangers.

All exiles im guessing. Corby has the biggest percentage of Scots in any town in England. Steel thing I think. Great export not.

[gbhibby]

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Can't help but laugh at this report to the police.

They have a march here in my hometown of Corby and there is also a loyalist flute band, plenty of Fenian this Fenian that also.

Half of them don't even have a clue about rangers.

Corby known as little Scotland.

[Pagan Hibernia]

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Surely the DUP involved? Where is Arlene Foster and her small minded band of haters?

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As incredible as it seems, Arlene was considered to be on the moderate, progressive wing of the DUP!

[matty_f]

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The authorites in Scotland haven't just allowed Sevco fans to get away with their sectarian behaviour for decades. They've now allowed Secvo fans to officially play the victim.

I think it was bizarrely helped along by Nil By Mouth, which incorrectly declared that the H word was was a sectarian term. Then, more recently, some judges also labelled it as sectarian. The reasoning that was given for reaching that conclusion was utter nonsense and complete conjecture - essentially making it so that anyone using any word at all to negatively describe a Sevco fan would automatically be sectarian. The people responsible for this damaging bothsidesing and whataboutery have set back any effort to wipe out sectarianism in Scotland for generations, not that there ever seemed to be much effort.

Correct. The grasping for equivalence that would allow Rangers fans to show Celtic fans were just as bad as them has led to the h word being appropriated as a sectarian insult without it ever really being the intention (at least not to the majority of people).

Nil by Mouth, while presumably having good intentions, just stoked endless whataboutery rather than helping get on top of the situation.

[gbhibby]

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The authorites in Scotland haven't just allowed Sevco fans to get away with their sectarian behaviour for decades. They've now allowed Secvo fans to officially play the victim.

I think it was bizarrely helped along by Nil By Mouth, which incorrectly declared that the H word was was a sectarian term. Then, more recently, some judges also labelled it as sectarian. The reasoning that was given for reaching that conclusion was utter nonsense and complete conjecture - essentially making it so that anyone using any word at all to negatively describe a Sevco fan would automatically be sectarian. The people responsible for this damaging bothsidesing and whataboutery have set back any effort to wipe out sectarianism in Scotland for generations, not that there ever seemed to be much effort.

Great Post but a long as the turnstiles keep clicking nothing will change.
The Rangers are complicit in keeping the kettle boiling by appealing to their fans by introducing orange strips and orange training tops as they know their bigoted fans will lap it up.

[Greensunshine]

Strange behaviour from a bunch of weirdo’s

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

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https://youtu.be/SBEtQQZ7Z9I?si=-QIJuxS_Tag2Xv_N
Mason Boyne.

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Had never heard of or seen this before, was this on the bbc?! Even nowadays I can’t imagine many folk being willing to make a series of sketches ripping the **** out of the Orange Order, never mind (based entirely on what my mother’s told me it was like trying to get a job for many catholics in West Lothian/Lanarkshire/Falkirk area in the 70s and 80s) back then.


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[VoltaireHibs]

I know we can't use the H word anymore, but even prior to it's banning me and my mates referred to then as Orcs. Ibrox obviously being Mordor.

[sadtom]

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Surely the DUP involved? Where is Arlene Foster and her small minded band of haters?

The DUP…the political wing of the Old Testament.

The OO are bullies who stamp their feet to get what they want. The should be opposed at every turn.
Next time they are here we should absolutely plaster the streets with thousands of those signs and have many more thousands in the ground.
Just as hating the KKK doesn’t make you anti-white. Hating the OO doesn’t make you anti-Protestant…it just makes you a decent human being.

In the spirit of our club and our fight to be recognised from the get go in the face of Orange bigotry we should take them on. NEVER cow down to them.
Can you just imagine if they are getting their panties in in a pickle over 1 wee banner can you imagine their reaction if everytime those freaks are belting out their filth that we display thousands of them.
The club should actively support that too. And announce that bigoted hate groups like the OO are not and never will be welcome at Easter Road.

If these weirdoes want a fight…bring it on you ****kicking simpletons.

[Clarence]

Mammy… Daddy… Polis!

[hibsbollah]

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Had never heard of or seen this before, was this on the bbc?! Even nowadays I can’t imagine many folk being willing to make a series of sketches ripping the **** out of the Orange Order, never mind (based entirely on what my mother’s told me it was like trying to get a job for many catholics in West Lothian/Lanarkshire/Falkirk area in the 70s and 80s) back then.


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Robbie Coltrane was scared of no-one. Punk sensibilities sadly missing today, RIP big yin.

[Aldo]

I wonder how the media outlets will report this?

[Bostonhibby]

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I wonder how the media outlets will report this?

I can see them mounting a full on campaign to wipe sectarianism out once and for all.

Full frontal expose on the singing of banned hate songs and campaign to prosecute all identified then ban them from football grounds.

Or maybe not, in 21st Century Scotland. Forever a blight on what is otherwise a forward looking nation.

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[Jim44]

There’s a post on FB about the flares in the Rangers end. It references the constant sectarian singing as well. Ironically, according to FF, the Orange Order have made a formal complaint about the ‘disgusting, sectarian, Hibs banner.

[gbhibby]

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Had never heard of or seen this before, was this on the bbc?! Even nowadays I can’t imagine many folk being willing to make a series of sketches ripping the **** out of the Orange Order, never mind (based entirely on what my mother’s told me it was like trying to get a job for many catholics in West Lothian/Lanarkshire/Falkirk area in the 70s and 80s) back then.


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Yes it was on the BBC, there are a lots of Videos on YouTube of Mason Boyne.

[Aldo]

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I can see them mounting a full on campaign to wipe sectarianism out once and for all.

Full frontal expose on the singing of banned hate songs and campaign to prosecute all identifiedcsings and ban them from football grounds.

Or maybe not, in 21st Century Scotland. Forever a blight on what is otherwise a forward looking nation.

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Probably not far from the truth BH.

Let’s see if they take the high ground in all this when and if they report it!