His dive and waving of an imaginary yellow card should have earned him two quickfire yellow cards, swiftly followed by a red. Also looked like Hibs should have been awarded a penalty early on for the genuine foul on Miller.
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26-11-2023 08:25 AM #31
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26-11-2023 08:52 AM #32
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Was really impressed with him when we played them at Easter Road
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26-11-2023 09:34 AM #35
We need a couple more dickheads in our team. Much as we complain when someone like Larry Fiveheid or Devlin absolutely blooters one of our players in the opening minutes or a derby, or walks the tightrope of what's acceptable in those games, it works. We could do with a bit more edge in big games and at key times.
Miller has it, think we need a couple more players like that.
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26-11-2023 09:34 AM #36
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If the ref had seen it, it would have been him walking.
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26-11-2023 09:47 AM #37This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Bad form that from players.
Not only is it a snide thing to do,it could cost a player earnings if it results in ref agreeing with the guffy that does this motion.
The bearded "tough guy me" player making an angry dash at Rocky(foul on Beck) to inflame the situation.
Then he sheepishly wanders away ! Another guffy !
The laddie with the nice left foot might have his own song...... the Jeff Beck classic.
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"You're everywhere and nowhere,Becky !!Last edited by Mick O'Rourke; 26-11-2023 at 10:28 AM.
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26-11-2023 09:49 AM #38This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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26-11-2023 09:53 AM #39
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26-11-2023 10:08 AM #41
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26-11-2023 10:17 AM #42
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Miller was silly..no doubt…..but that is irrelevant to the point I was making which was…Beck deliberately and quite forcefully elbowed Miller in the chest/stomach region as they fell to the ground, and if the ref had saw it, then he too could have been carded.
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26-11-2023 10:48 AM #43
Interesting to read the positive reports. He was on loan at Bolton last year but didn’t get much of a look in
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26-11-2023 11:09 AM #44
Decent enough player with a dirty some may say bad streak just what any team wants, but when they play for the other side I want my defenders to put him in row Z. He should have gone off as well if it was a red for Miller then it was a red for that scroat.
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26-11-2023 01:06 PM #45
Looks like a good player. But what a c..t with the card waving to get Miller sent off.
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26-11-2023 03:35 PM #47
Miller is daft putting his hands on Beck not once but twice, knowing he's already on a booking.
The second challenge is nothing though and it's clear simulation from Beck. The first booking is soft too, but it's a challenge he doesn't have to make.
As for the imaginary card waving, players were getting booked for it at the start of the season but that directive seems to have fizzled out.
Beck was impressive but has three years left on his Liverpool deal, so it might be that he gets loaned to a higher level next season then sold on. One to keep an eye on if his career does stall a bit.
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26-11-2023 08:38 PM #49
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26-11-2023 08:59 PM #50
If Miller's first booking was for the collision it's pretty harsh imo , the 2nd bookings even worse as Becks has got Miller sent off by diving with no contact . Becks reaction afterwards was really poor in waving a imaginary card to influence the referee . I don't put any blame on Miller at all . Thankfully it didn't effect the outcome and beck still lost even with him cheating
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26-11-2023 09:55 PM #53
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No one likes a diving wee pr**k
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26-11-2023 10:10 PM #54
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The problem at the 2nd booking is that Miller jumps in because he thinks he can steal the ball and as a result gets on the wrong side of Beck who is as slippery as an eel and Miller can then never get back goalside legally. At 2-0 up and already on a booking he had to then leave him be but instead bumbled about like an elephant in a china shop.
Had he simply stayed goalside in the first instance, Beck would have had to either pass the ball back to a team mate or try to beat Miller. Everything would have been fine. Impetuosity is a trait of the young and the inexperienced.Last edited by PHeffernan; 26-11-2023 at 10:16 PM.
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The 2nd booking Miller's went out to beck , there's a slip from beck who is quick and turns miller , he even throws a arm back at miller . Maybe miller could have done things better but there was no contact worthwhile to make beck go down the way he did and it was a blatant dive and he should have received the yellow instead of miller for it imo
I think beck was trying to get miller sent off from the first booking and due to an awful referee he succeeded. It was a Oscar winning performance for acting imo . Waving the imaginary card and trying to push miller off was poor . Owen Beck didn't exactly cover himself in glory there either .
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27-11-2023 02:44 AM #56
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Blaming the referee or an opposition player or the media or the weather or anything else doesn't wash, it's professional sport which is all about making good decisions. Miller makes a poor decision whilst on a personal yellow with the team 2-0 up and ends up getting sent off which puts the win in jeopardy.
At 2 min 38 seconds in your clip he makes the fatal mistake of moving out of his goalside position.
All he had to do was hold that goalside position and Beck will have to pass back to his team mate, No.12, or turn towards goal when Miller can easily tackle him.Last edited by PHeffernan; 27-11-2023 at 02:49 AM.
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I think we have valid reasons this time to blame someone else , as I said the first yellow beck actually goes into miller with more force than the other way around . What gets miller booked is he's a big strong lad who carries on , the other guys rolling around like he's been shot . It's just a coming together and the players conned the referee.
The 2nd ones even worse as it's a blatant dive and he should have been booked for simulation or for the dirty carry on in waving a imaginary card. The two bookings miller got were never fouls imo and we're down to a player cheating and the referee once again getting calls against us wrong . Referees performance in the whole game was extremely poor though thankfully it hasn't cost us this time like it has in many other games 👍
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