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    What was it the PL said when ‘punishing’ the so called big 6 for trying to destroy the PL and setting up the Super League……

    ”You can’t impose on field punishment for an off field violation as it adversely effects the players and fans”🤔

    And they did exactly that with Everton & Forest!
    Make it make sense


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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    This isn't the spl. The premier league can live without man city quite easily. They did for long enough.
    Losing Pep, Haaland, De Bruyne, Fodden etc would still be a huge loss. They are one of, if not the biggest draw in the league. Of course they can live without them but it would likely cost the league massive sums of money. That's a big no no.

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    Losing Pep, Haaland, De Bruyne, Fodden etc would still be a huge loss. They are one of, if not the biggest draw in the league. Of course they can live without them but it would likely cost the league massive sums of money. That's a big no no.
    What do you mean by "biggest draw"?

    Attendances? TV viewing figures? Global shirt sales?

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    Losing Pep, Haaland, De Bruyne, Fodden etc would still be a huge loss. They are one of, if not the biggest draw in the league. Of course they can live without them but it would likely cost the league massive sums of money. That's a big no no.
    They are nothing like the biggest draw. Utterly dwarfed by United.

    Premier league brings in big players and has big transfers every window. Those players places would be taken.

    You think the real big clubs are going to be happy if City get let off? Theyd be in the super league within a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LewysGot2 View Post
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    What do you mean by "biggest draw"?

    Attendances? TV viewing figures? Global shirt sales?
    Recent trophies probably

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    Everton now hit twice, whilst Man City and Chelsea go on their merry way…..
    HIBERNIAN FC - ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY SINCE 1875

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    Everton now hit twice, whilst Man City and Chelsea go on their merry way…..
    Is there an echo in here?


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    Sheff United deducted 2 points next time they play in the Championship with another two suspended, the suspended two points will be activated if they default on any future payments in the agreement




    no doubt Aston Villa will hopefully get the same if they're ever back down to the Championship, lucky gits escaping punishment when they got promoted to the League of milk and honey

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    It looks like Everton are losing out because they are not as clever as Man City and Chelsea at hiding their losses. They must have very honest or naive accountants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
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    It looks like Everton are losing out because they are not as clever as Man City and Chelsea at hiding their losses. They must have very honest or naive accountants.
    I think it's more that their karma hasn't landed yet, they're going to be made to hurt much much more, potentially titles stripped.
    Who knows, it could be the catalyst for their mega rich owners to take football over and start this continental league.

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    It looks like Everton are losing out because they are not as clever as Man City and Chelsea at hiding their losses. They must have very honest or naive accountants.
    Aren’t they losing out because they broke the rules?

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    Is the parachute payment still something like £170 million? Poor wee souls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekhibee View Post
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    Is the parachute payment still something like £170 million? Poor wee souls.

    Leeds got £44m for this season, if they don't go up they will get £36m 2024/25 and £16m 2025/26

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    It looks like Everton are losing out because they are not as clever as Man City and Chelsea at hiding their losses. They must have very honest or naive accountants.
    Man City have 115 charges against them. I don't think they are clever. Everton are cooperating for a reduced punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinityHFC View Post
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    Aren’t they losing out because they broke the rules?
    There are a lot of clubs, including Man City and Chelsea that have broken the rules, but Everton are being penalised. Another poster suggested that Everton have accepted some sort of ‘plea bargain’ to mitigate their punishment, but I think it’s because they are an easier target for the authorities to pursue, than going after the ‘big boys’. It is akin to the DWP prosecuting carers who have earned a few pounds more than they should have, instead of pursuing those who make a career out of defrauding them.

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    There are a lot of clubs, including Man City and Chelsea that have broken the rules, but Everton are being penalised. Another poster suggested that Everton have accepted some sort of ‘plea bargain’ to mitigate their punishment, but I think it’s because they are an easier target for the authorities to pursue, than going after the ‘big boys’. It is akin to the DWP prosecuting carers who have earned a few pounds more than they should have, instead of pursuing those who make a career out of defrauding them.
    I'm not suggesting anything. It's a fact. Everton have cooperated and given all the documentation asked for. Manchester City have not. That is why Evertons case has been handled quickly. Many of Manchester City's charges are for failing to handover documents that the premier league have asked for.
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    Saw some journalist on Twitter saying Everton & Forrest ( when contesting the 1st breach )admitting the crime & seeking a reduced sentence while Chelsea & city were denying any crime had been committed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
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    There are a lot of clubs, including Man City and Chelsea that have broken the rules, but Everton are being penalised. Another poster suggested that Everton have accepted some sort of ‘plea bargain’ to mitigate their punishment, but I think it’s because they are an easier target for the authorities to pursue, than going after the ‘big boys’. It is akin to the DWP prosecuting carers who have earned a few pounds more than they should have, instead of pursuing those who make a career out of defrauding them.
    They are going after City, though. 115 times.

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    There are a lot of clubs, including Man City and Chelsea that have broken the rules, but Everton are being penalised. Another poster suggested that Everton have accepted some sort of ‘plea bargain’ to mitigate their punishment, but I think it’s because they are an easier target for the authorities to pursue, than going after the ‘big boys’. It is akin to the DWP prosecuting carers who have earned a few pounds more than they should have, instead of pursuing those who make a career out of defrauding them.
    They are going after City aswell, it's alot of charges to go through that City are denying to all, apparently they are trying to get the rules changed so that they'll just get a fine instead of a points deduction though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    They are going after City, though. 115 times.
    I won’t hold my breath that anything will come of it. The whole English set up reeks of corruption. It would be interesting to see Man City’s owners reaction to being fined and having points deducted. If they have 115 offences that would equate to being moved into the relegation spots. If they miss out on the title and European football would they withdraw from the Club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    How come struggling clubs like Everton and Forest seem to get their cases processed so quickly yet City's has been dragging on for what seems years?
    International millionaire Lawyers.

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    I won’t hold my breath that anything will come of it. The whole English set up reeks of corruption. It would be interesting to see Man City’s owners reaction to being fined and having points deducted. If they have 115 offences that would equate to being moved into the relegation spots. If they miss out on the title and European football would they withdraw from the Club?
    What reeks of corruption, though? The league are bringing charges for breaching the rules. That is the opposite of corruption.

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    football Agents make a lot of money out of Chelsea and Man city huh

    Premier League club Net total paid to agents/intermediaries
    1 - Chelsea £75,140,524
    2 - Manchester City £60,626,025
    3 - Manchester United £34,054,001
    4 - Liverpool £31,500,211
    5 - Arsenal £24,760,875
    6 - Aston Villa £21,160,122
    7 - Tottenham £19,731,099
    8 - Newcastle £18,881,923
    9 - Bournemouth £15,999,925
    10 - West Ham £13,880,365
    11 - Wolves £13,392,541
    12 - Nottingham Forest £13,063,455
    13 - Fulham £12,062,906
    14 - Brighton £11,393,102
    15 - Crystal Palace £11,082,430
    16 - Everton £10,623,224
    17 - Brentford £8,147,957
    18 - Burnley £6,944,589
    19 - Sheffield United £5,127,509
    20 - Luton Town £2,020,146

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    Here is a list of all the charges against Man City, hope the link works?

    https://www.givemesport.com/football...sIp-KrWISFDfiV

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    Man city must be facing a deduction of about 300 points when you look at how forest and everton have been dealt with.

    How about 30 points a season for a decade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Here is a list of all the charges against Man City, hope the link works?

    https://www.givemesport.com/football...sIp-KrWISFDfiV
    Works fine, thanks

    Those who are wanting swift justice will be disappointed. It will be summer next year before we have a verdict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    What reeks of corruption, though? The league are bringing charges for breaching the rules. That is the opposite of corruption.

    It’s wildly corrupt. Football clubs owned by foreign governments ffs. How could it not be?

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    I won’t hold my breath that anything will come of it. The whole English set up reeks of corruption. It would be interesting to see Man City’s owners reaction to being fined and having points deducted. If they have 115 offences that would equate to being moved into the relegation spots. If they miss out on the title and European football would they withdraw from the Club?
    Not sure how an owner can withdraw from a club? Put it up for sale do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottB View Post
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    Not sure how an owner can withdraw from a club? Put it up for sale do you mean?
    Yes!

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