Everton

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I’ve long said the footballl authorities have been asleep at the wheel. Everton supporters even setup a campaign iirc something like “the 101 percenters” - clubs that couldn’t afford to do what they did (spent more than they took in) but couldn’t afford to be relegated either.

FIFA / UEFA and the country leagues are focusing on the wrong thing - they have prioritised the development of the game over the sustainability. They really need to protect the clubs against the selves…

[Billy Whizz]

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I’ve long said the footballl authorities have been asleep at the wheel. Everton supporters even setup a campaign iirc something like “the 101 percenters” - clubs that couldn’t afford to do what they did (spent more than they took in) but couldn’t afford to be relegated either.

FIFA / UEFA and the country leagues are focusing on the wrong thing - they have prioritised the development of the game over the sustainability. They really need to protect the clubs against the selves…

Some of the losses you see in clubs in the English Premier league and championship is incredible
Think Leicester have just been charged with massive losses, and they’ve been in the top league for a while

I’m not sure if the football governance bill in England will sort out this

[LewysGot2]

Apparently they released the figures for 22/23 in the middle of the Arsenal City game...on Easter Sunday.

Looks like trying to avoid being a headline on Monday's back pages.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Some of the losses you see in clubs in the English Premier league and championship is incredible
Think Leicester have just been charged with massive losses, and they’ve been in the top league for a while

I’m not sure if the football governance bill in England will sort out this

its wishful thinking but logically there needs to be an independent body looking at this.

Though When you look at the track record of regulators in the Uk you see the futility of it.

[Lancs Harp]

Some staggering numbers in those accounts. Wages account for 92% of turnover. Thats eye watering. "Borrowings" £341 million.

[The Wireless]

Have given up trying to work out how this FFP punishment criteria and points deduction are decided. It seems to roll over for some clubs but not others? The fog of transparency is creating a serious contender and challenge to a penalty for Rangers.

[Centre Hawf]

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Have given up trying to work out how this FFP punishment criteria and points deduction are decided. It seems to roll over for some clubs but not others? The fog of transparency is creating a serious contender and challenge to a penalty for Rangers.

I think the issue FFP seems to have is that it allows bigger revenue generators to continue to spend more money and the rest have a bit of a ceiling placed on them, but as we all know now you need to spend money to win anything or even qualify for a Champions League/Europa League place down there. But one cup win and qualification doesn't make you a super club either so it feels like we're going to constantly be in a cycle where an Aston Villa sign some top players, get themselves in the top 5 before having to drop down to the bottom half again because they sold their players to pass FFP. While Man City/Man United etc all can consistently generate huge levels of income to maintain the status quo.

What the sport needs is a proper salary cap implemented, but they'll never go for that.

[MKHIBEE]

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Have given up trying to work out how this FFP punishment criteria and points deduction are decided. It seems to roll over for some clubs but not others? The fog of transparency is creating a serious contender and challenge to a penalty for Rangers.

Expect more penalties to Rangers in that case

[blackpoolhibs]

Further 2 points deducted.

[Scouse Hibee]

FFS…. deduction……. given back……. deduction…… becoming a farce

[He's here!]

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Further 2 points deducted.

How come struggling clubs like Everton and Forest seem to get their cases processed so quickly yet City's has been dragging on for what seems years?

[blackpoolhibs]

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How come struggling clubs like Everton and Forest seem to get their cases processed so quickly yet City's has been dragging on for what seems years?

I think it's because they have admitted the charges againt them.

[Scouse Hibee]

Will City be deducted any before the end of the season? I very much doubt it.

[MWHIBBIES]

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How come struggling clubs like Everton and Forest seem to get their cases processed so quickly yet City's has been dragging on for what seems years?

Because they have cooperated and processing 1 charge is easier than 115.

[Bostonhibby]

Man city must be facing a deduction of about 300 points when you look at how forest and everton have been dealt with.

[Billy Whizz]

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Man city must be facing a deduction of about 300 points when you look at how forest and everton have been dealt with.

What are the implications for City if they were to be found guilty, both in England and Europe

[Bostonhibby]

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What are the implications for City if they were to be found guilty, both in England and Europe

They will have to pay their lawyers even more money and get their owners to use even more of their leverage with the authorities to keep this in the long grass even longer?

Before a new city of rules are devised, the City's & Chelsea's of this world all rush to support them then we hear very little else about what went before?

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[Scouse Hibee]

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Because they have cooperated and processing 1 charge is easier than 115.

They should break it down and deal with the charges against City in smaller portions.10 charges at a time.

[Bostonhibby]

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They should break it down and deal with the charges against City in smaller portions.10 charges at a time.

They'd only do that if City's lawyers told them it was alright. The tail will be wagging the dog here I think.

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[MWHIBBIES]

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They'd only do that if City's lawyers told them it was alright. The tail will be wagging the dog here I think.

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Doubt it. You think Everton, Forest etc can't afford good lawyers?

City are going to get ****ed. Big cases take time.

[Bostonhibby]

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Doubt it. You think Everton, Forest etc can't afford good lawyers?

City are going to get ****ed. Big cases take time.

Just a feeling, I hope you're right.

City's owners will likely have a bit of leverage that lesser club's don't. Forest's owner's face doesnt always fit with the authorities, he occasionally goes his own way.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

wow, take that Everton

a mega two points deduction lol

slap on the wrist, after an appeal they will probably get 3 points back


i was reading the other day a lot of the "big" clubs want an increase in the FFP rules so they can lose even more each season in the League of Milk and Honey

[neil7908]

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Doubt it. You think Everton, Forest etc can't afford good lawyers?

City are going to get ****ed. Big cases take time.

I would be absolutely shocked if they end up in real trouble. They may get a judgement against them but it will be delayed, appealed and taken to the courts. It will take years and at the end nothing will happen.

We all know money talks in football and given how corrupt the game is, there is next to no chance they will see any real punishment.

[MWHIBBIES]

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I would be absolutely shocked if they end up in real trouble. They may get a judgement against them but it will be delayed, appealed and taken to the courts. It will take years and at the end nothing will happen.

We all know money talks in football and given how corrupt the game is, there is next to no chance they will see any real punishment.

Why would they bring the case and then not punish them?

[MKHIBEE]

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Why would they bring the case and then not punish them?

They are not guilty?

[MWHIBBIES]

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They are not guilty?

They're extremely guilty, I don't think there is any doubt there. 115 charges, they've committed at least 1 of them.

They would've been found guilty by UEFA but there is a statute of limitations that saved them. That isn't the case with the premier league.

[MKHIBEE]

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They're extremely guilty, I don't think there is any doubt there. 115 charges, they've committed at least 1 of them.

They would've been found guilty by UEFA but there is a statute of limitations that saved them. That isn't the case with the premier league.

I know, I hope they get absolutely hammered but I’m not holding my breath

[zitelli62]

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I know, I hope they get absolutely hammered but I’m not holding my breath

Best lawyers in the world definitely help.

[neil7908]

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Why would they bring the case and then not punish them?

I think there will be a punishment of sorts but I'm very sceptical about now severe it will be and if it will actually be enforced.

City were banned from the Champions League and fined £30m a few years back. What ended up happening? It got reduced to a £10m fine after going to the court of arbitration for sport.

This whole process is taking forever and will be dragged out as long as possible, appealed etc and by the end I don't think they will suffer. Maybe a fine that they can easily afford but they won't be getting relegated.

There are already rumours about rule changes to FFP as the EPL is worried about the league not being able to attract top players.

If City go down some of the biggest players in the league will be gone and that hits sponsorship and income. That ain't happening.

[MWHIBBIES]

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I think there will be a punishment of sorts but I'm very sceptical about now severe it will be and if it will actually be enforced.

City were banned from the Champions League and fined £30m a few years back. What ended up happening? It got reduced to a £10m fine after going to the court of arbitration for sport.

This whole process is taking forever and will be dragged out as long as possible, appealed etc and by the end I don't think they will suffer. Maybe a fine that they can easily afford but they won't be getting relegated.

There are already rumours about rule changes to FFP as the EPL is worried about the league not being able to attract top players.

If City go down some of the biggest players in the league will be gone and that hits sponsorship and income. That ain't happening.

This isn't the spl. The premier league can live without man city quite easily. They did for long enough.