just wanting to vent and wondering if anyone else feels the same way!
noticed lots of comments recently from EPL managers equating the number of injuries they have with the "unreasonable load" on their players and within this, stating that added on time is a factor.
there's number of things here that annoy me - firstly there's no acknowledgement of the play acting that is rife in the game and that this is often the reason for added time. secondly, the players aren't impacted physically by added time, because it is there to represent the time they are all stood doing nowt!
additionally, there's no mention of the fans, of wanting to ensure that fans get their moneys worth from what they watch - all the comments are from the perspective of overpaid players. when they talk about schedules, they fail to mention that many clubs choose now to go on extensive overseas trips for friendlies, adding to player fatigue but with the focus of maximising profits. maybe clubs and managers should look internally first before trying to shaft fans yet again.
I'd not be averse to a trial of rugby style time keeping but would want greater penalties brought in for faking injury / cheating within the game.
I haven't heard the same level of complaints in scotland yet, though there is a disparity with the old firm as another thread notes. but I do worry that fans don't appear to have a voice / be consulted about this when in effect we're being cheated through the lack of in ball play if added time isn't reflected in the amount of stoppages.
thoughts?
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Thread: EPL - entitlement and hypocrisy
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03-10-2023 09:08 PM #1
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EPL - entitlement and hypocrisy
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03-10-2023 09:14 PM #2
Can't argue with any of that. Although I need to take your word for it. I don't watch the EPL as it's a lot of codswallop.
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03-10-2023 10:55 PM #4
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Isn’t a lot of the added time coming from VAR checks?
10-15 minutes added on is daft mind. They’d be better just stopping the clock when play isn’t happening.
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I couldn't spend my time watching just the SPL. It's pretty poor fare.
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04-10-2023 08:09 AM #8
Never watch the EPL, stopped even watching the highlights on Match of the Day, after more than 50 years of it being my main Saturday night viewing.
There will no doubt be the occasional great football match, but for me it's a giant so what. I'm only really interested in watching Hibs and Scotland.
I hope that it all goes tits up, probably never happen but it would be satisfying to see.Last edited by superfurryhibby; 04-10-2023 at 08:50 AM.
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04-10-2023 08:42 AM #9
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04-10-2023 09:00 AM #10
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Rupert Murdoch's Sky has been telling us it's the best league in the world since 1992 so it must be true.
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04-10-2023 09:03 AM #11
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04-10-2023 09:11 AM #12
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Soulless nonsense down there IMO, rarely (if ever) watch MOTD
Arbroath vs Morton genuinely holds more appeal for me than a Brighton vs Chelsea
If their financial bubble ever bursts (and it surely will at some stage), that would be spectacular viewing!
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04-10-2023 11:35 AM #16
To get back to the original point:
I think in general teams have introduced so much time wasting, plus the effects of VAR, that something had to be done about it. Though as already mentioned, it does seem to be disproportionate for OF games
I agree with the OP about the argument against being more injuries, as the idea is to restore wasted time, not add extra time.
Dundee's time wasting at the weekend would have been an ideal opportunity to clamp down, but bizarrely nothing was done about it and we got three minutes added on.
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04-10-2023 11:52 AM #17
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At the start of Sky I loved it and devoured as many games as I could. As competition started to lessen and the cups started to be seeded and made easier for top teams I started to lose interest. The Champions League probably did more to me losing interest than anything else as it is a borefest with the same teams playing each other every year and teh odds loaded for the teams with most money.
I probably love Hibs more now than ever and my love for the Scotland team has returned too and I am going to the odd game(back in the 80s I went to all the home games). For me football is about the club I love and not the sport. I top that up with watching some of teh lower league games, usually with a camera in my hand, and give me Gayfield of Starks Park over watching the EPL any day.
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04-10-2023 11:53 AM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I get that there are plenty that don't like that but, it's pretty indisputable right now.
Personally, I think it's at the highest standard that it's ever been at.
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04-10-2023 11:55 AM #19
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After watching a fair bit of the rugby World Cup, football really need to look at how they do things referee and time wise. Rugby is miles ahead in that department.
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There's some real quality in almost every team just now (Everton, Sheff Utd and Luton aside)
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04-10-2023 12:09 PM #22
The EPL is a marketing masterpiece ... but whether or not it has changed football for the better is highly open to question. It's success and that of the UCL has been the driver for a massive disparity in finance not only within the EPL itself, but also between the leagues of Europe.
The usual suspects were always the usual suspects, but you only have to look at the last 10 years of the old European cup compared to the last 10 years of the champions league to see the difference money and especially money from super rich owners attracted by the global glamour of the 'big leagues' has made.
European cup:
Barcelona
Red Star Belgrade
AC Milan
AC Milan
PSV Eindhoven
Poto
Steaua Bucharest
Juventus
Liverpool
SV Hamburg
Champions League:
Man City
Real Madrid
Chelsea
Bayern Munich
Liverpool
Real Madrid
Real Madrid
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Real Madrid
In what universe could Porto, Steaua Bucharest or Red Star Belgrade have a hope in the current UCL .. even SV Hamburg and PSV would be massive outside betS. I appreciate English clubs were banned for a good chunk of the last 10 years of the European cup, but even so.
I still watch MOTD but no way on earth would I subscribe to watch the EPL and I have little to no interest any more in the so called 'Champions League' I refuse to pay to watch a competition that is nothing more than a rich clubs carve up.
If the choice was the CL semis and final or the Scottish Championship play offs it would be an utter no contest ... give me the latter any old day of the week.
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04-10-2023 12:10 PM #23
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04-10-2023 12:13 PM #24This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Coaches speaking out against play acting would just be p*ssing in the wind. Look at Brentford's game at the weekend there also - their player is fouled by the Forest keeper but he gets up and plays on..........no penalty given. Is it any wonder players embellish contact to ensure the refs give them the award?
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04-10-2023 12:15 PM #26
Rather predictable how people seem to go out of their way to comment on threads about English football, only to tell us that they infact have no interest in English football
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04-10-2023 12:17 PM #27
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More people are watching due to entering Asian markets (I'd guess). By that token, NFL / F1 etc could just as easily take away some of these new 'fans'
Further down the leagues, there is an ever increasing amount of clubs being deducted points due to financial troubles, probably rooted from over-extending themselves to reach the promised land of the EPL £££
Any decent govt (not a likely prospect at all in the english parliament, to be fair) would also look to stop some of the many dodgy (criminal) owners involved in the english pyramid
It obviously all looks rosy just now (in the top league at least), but I think any large downturn in the revenues (IPTV anyone) received by clubs could quickly see the dominoes begin to fall
Your points in bold are just a consequence of the obscene money involved.
English football needs a total reset, to give the game back to the people - currently just a soulless circus IMO. I'm sure there would be plenty down south who'd agree with that too, having been priced out of the game by their clubs
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04-10-2023 12:19 PM #28
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When we were being told it was the best 5 or 6 years ago I wouldn’t have agreed. The all conquering Barcelona sides, Real Madrid that were relentless in Europe etc were better than anything England had to offer. I think now though they’ve definitely kicked on.
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04-10-2023 01:13 PM #29
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With the amount of criminal money being laundered through it since 92 it would be shocking if it wasn't the most viewed. I laugh at the smug Premier League fans as they take a self esteem boost from watching the league of the oligarch and sheikh.
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