What is "The Scottish Game"?

[Tyler Durden]

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If anyone comes in and he's a success it'll be an exception to the rule

Sadly true!

I'm not against Montgomery by any stretch. The whole process becoming almost an annual thing is all a bit draining tbh.

[James Stephen]

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You can't exclude the Old Firm though. They are the only clubs who are ultimately successful.

Barnes lasted 5 minutes, Venglos one season, they didnt love Deila (unique circumstances admittedly) and Liam Brady was a disaster.

Huns have had Le Guen (hugely highly rated), Caixinha and GVB.

Of coaches with little or no Scottish experience, only Advocaat, Janssen, Rodgers and Ange have been big hits, possibly Stevie G too.

[CapitalGreen]

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Barnes lasted 5 minutes, Venglos one season, they didnt love Deila (unique circumstances admittedly) and Liam Brady was a disaster.

Huns have had Le Guen (hugely highly rated), Caixinha and GVB.

Of coaches with little or no Scottish experience, only Advocaat, Janssen, Rodgers and Ange have been big hits, possibly Stevie G too.

GVB had Scottish football experience.

Gerrard was definitely a hit, stopped 10IAR and still the only manager to win Rangers a top flight title in over a decade.

[Since452]

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GVB had Scottish football experience.

Gerrard was definitely a hit, stopped 10IAR and still the only manager to win Rangers a top flight title in over a decade.

Ever

[HoboHarry]

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gvb had scottish football experience.

Gerrard was definitely a hit, stopped 10iar and still the only manager to win rangers a top flight title in their existence.

ftfy

[Eyrie]

If we want a manager with experience of the Scottish game then surely we should hire Dick Campbell?

[SChibs]

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GVB had Scottish football experience.

Gerrard was definitely a hit, stopped 10IAR and still the only manager to win Rangers a top flight title in over a decade.

He was also unbeaten in the league that season. If that's not a hit I'm not sure what is

[JimBHibees]

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Barnes lasted 5 minutes, Venglos one season, they didnt love Deila (unique circumstances admittedly) and Liam Brady was a disaster.

Huns have had Le Guen (hugely highly rated), Caixinha and GVB.

Of coaches with little or no Scottish experience, only Advocaat, Janssen, Rodgers and Ange have been big hits, possibly Stevie G too.

Delia won the league did he not?

[WeeRussell]

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Barnes lasted 5 minutes, Venglos one season, they didnt love Deila (unique circumstances admittedly) and Liam Brady was a disaster.

Huns have had Le Guen (hugely highly rated), Caixinha and GVB.

Of coaches with little or no Scottish experience, only Advocaat, Janssen, Rodgers and Ange have been big hits, possibly Stevie G too.

So it’s worked out for a handful you can name with little to no Scottish experience and hasn’t for a handful of others….

I guess it is a totally nonsensical cliche after all.

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Is the answer Shinty?

[James Stephen]

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So it’s worked out for a handful you can name with little to no Scottish experience and hasn’t for a handful of others….

I guess it is a totally nonsensical cliche after all.

Yeah, although thats a high failure rate for OF id have thought. The list for non OF will be higher.

[James Stephen]

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Delia won the league did he not?

A couple of times i think

[I_Love_Latapy]

Completely agree with this. Could’ve written it myself and echoes something Heckingbottom said - in SPL every game is like a Cup tie as you’re either playing teams you should beat, close rivals, or big teams where you might nick a win. There’s rarely the sequence of evenly matched games you get down south and you have to adapt every game.

Does this mean SPL need Managers who know the league? No … but they need to learn quickly and adapt.

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I get why folk have this issue but I don't really agree with it.

Down South there are certain aspects of football culture that are different to here. In the lower leagues there are 46 league games per season. Due to FFP rules, most of the teams are of a similar standard and the financial advantages held by the biggest clubs (like when a big club drops into league 1) are watered down a bit. A point on the road can often be considered to be a good result, and teams can play effectively and win lots of points hitting teams on the break.

Up here in the premier league we've got teams from EPL to league 2 standard all in the same league imo. At Hibs and at home we'll have a lot of teams come who have very little interest in having possession and taking us on at football. They'll have much less resource and will be used to utilising that to defend in depth and hit us on the break, therefore we'll need to have a squad that is as capable of dominating possession and winning lots of points against "weaker" teams as it is taking on similar sized clubs (Hearts and Aberdeen) and trying to nick bits here and there off Celtic and Rangers.

I reckon that's why you see a clearly capable manager in Heckingbottom fail at Hibs - he had his rigid 451 that didn't do enough to break teams down, and it's where a lot of our managers are going to fail if we take them from that market.

So it's nothing about "getting Scottish football" but everything about being able to put together a squad at Hibs that is effective in front of a restless Easter Road crowd but also effective when travelling to away grounds of clubs who have less resource but who can still put out handy, tough, difficult to beat teams.