Guidelines for taking passengers to sporting events in Scotland

[AugustaHibs]

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[Pretty Boy]

Football fans, always guilty until proven innocent.

[lyonhibs]

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How the **** are they going to regulate what is or is not a substantial meal? Going to have PC Plod doing calorie counting?

What absolute pish.

[Paul1642]

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How the **** are they going to regulate what is or is not a substantial meal? Going to have PC Plod doing calorie counting?

What absolute pish.

I’d imagine that like during the period of mad covid rules it will be down to staff at pubs to ensure compliance.

[lyonhibs]

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I’d imagine that like during the period of mad covid rules it will be down to staff at pubs to ensure compliance.

Bacon rolls and portions of chips all round then

[snedzuk]

"PSV operators are to have established safeguarding policies when carrying persons under the age of 18 years old. This is to include arrangements for the nomination of at least one responsible adult for the minors carried."

So if a 17 year old on your bus let's off a pyro, is it the responsible adults fault. And if it is, how many adults would want that role and without the adult, can up to 18s travel.

[SteveHFC]

Psv operators must notify if and chanting has taken place on route

Meanwhile rugby fans do what you want and enjoy a beer at game

[Northernhibee]

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Psv operators must notify if and chanting has taken place on route

Meanwhile rugby fans do what you want and enjoy a beer at game

From the bar staff I know, they have far more hassle when rugby fans are in compared to football.

[Jones28]

This will never go through. It reads like a ****ing black mirror script.

Toby Carvery will do great business though, Sunak probably has shares in it.

[SteveHFC]

2 reason it won't work and they both come from Glasgow

May be getting sold as voluntary but using the bus operators licence to make them agree.

[CL0762]

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It’s an absolute farce how football fans are treated in this country.

Over/under policing causes the vast majority of issues at football games so the best way to combat this is to put in place further draconian measures?

Go and watch the game ****, but don’t dare think you can enjoy yourself on the way there or back.

[Slim Shady]

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"PSV operators are to have established safeguarding policies when carrying persons under the age of 18 years old. This is to include arrangements for the nomination of at least one responsible adult for the minors carried."

So if a 17 year old on your bus let's off a pyro, is it the responsible adults fault. And if it is, how many adults would want that role and without the adult, can up to 18s travel.

Married at 16

Drive a car at 17

Cannae goto the football unless mummy or daddy takes you!!

[Aldo]

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2 reason it won't work and they both come from Glasgow

May be getting sold as voluntary but using the bus operators licence to make them agree.

There is nothing new here. Parts of this legislation has been in place for decades.

You ever wonder why buses get stopped by the police on say the M8 prior to certain games (usually Harthill) this legislation gives them this power.

Maybe needed to go through the relevant channels as they’ve asked sections to be added etc.

A lot if this came into force following the 1980 Scottish Cup Riot which involved a certain 2 teams.

The legislation came into force in 1985

[Slim Shady]

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There is nothing new here. Parts of this legislation has been in place for decades.

You ever wonder why buses get stopped by the police on say the M8 prior to certain games (usually Harthill) this legislation gives them this power.

Maybe needed to go through the relevant channels as they’ve asked sections to be added etc.

A lot if this came into force following the 1980 Scottish Cup Riot which involved a certain 2 teams.

The legislation came into force in 1985

Don't think you've read this fully Aldo, this is totally different, this legislation which power has been given to Traffic Commisioner.

If one bus from A2B Coaches get caught breaking the legislation the TC has and will use the authority to remove several buses from the Operators License, no way any bus company will turn a blind eye.

Basically you need permission to go on a bus to a Football match from the Police!! and do so within their conditions.

[jacomo]

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This will never go through. It reads like a ****ing black mirror script.

Toby Carvery will do great business though, Sunak probably has shares in it.

Nah, just his wife. It’s all completely above board.

[Jack]

UK government consultation.

I wonder if there will be a similar consultation for England or if they already have similar rules in place?

[McD]

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Don't think you've read this fully Aldo, this is totally different, this legislation which power has been given to Traffic Commisioner.

If one bus from A2B Coaches get caught breaking the legislation the TC has and will use the authority to remove several buses from the Operators License, no way any bus company will turn a blind eye.

Basically you need permission to go on a bus to a Football match from the Police!! and do so within their conditions.

Are the police even staffed for this?

Not that I’m suggesting it’s appropriate at all

[hibeerealist]

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This will never go through. It reads like a ****ing black mirror script.

Toby Carvery will do great business though, Sunak probably has shares in it.

Nope, this is down to Humza Useless nowt to do with Sunak.

[Keith_M]

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Looks like a wind-up to me.

[overdrive]

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Nope, this is down to Humza Useless nowt to do with Sunak.

It says UK Government consultation, not Scottish Government consultation.

[Slim Shady]

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Are the police even staffed for this?

Not that I’m suggesting it’s appropriate at all

Would police even be required.

New Tachographs (Gen2) being installed in vehicles means they can be checked by enforcement officers remotely!!

[lyonhibs]

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Nope, this is down to Humza Useless nowt to do with Sunak.

Wrong wrong wrong - read the link

[.Sean.]

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Looks like a wind-up to me.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...ation-document

Unfortunately not

Take it the ***** at the rugby will be demonised like this

[McD]

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Would police even be required.

New Tachographs (Gen2) being installed in vehicles means they can be checked by enforcement officers remotely!!

There are multiple points about informing police officers and getting permission from police officers, so presumably there will need to be some police interaction

[G15 Hibs]

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UK government consultation.

I wonder if there will be a similar consultation for England or if they already have similar rules in place?

It says the guidelines are already in place in England and Wales, this is to bring Scotland into line with them.

[.Sean.]

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Are the police even staffed for this?

Not that I’m suggesting it’s appropriate at all

The police will try to get the bus companies to do their jobs for them via threats it looks like. Shifting the blame for misbehaviour on the bus companies

Your granny gets burgled and not an officer in site, but they’ll be in the pub to make sure you’ve got a bowl of chips with your pint before a match away to Livingston. Gtf. Any reason folk hate them

[SteveHFC]

And rest assured it will only be enforced on certain clubs while the other 2 just do what they want

[Slim Shady]

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There are multiple points about informing police officers and getting permission from police officers, so presumably there will need to be some police interaction

Inform a DFO - Dedicated Football Officer.

This was be a knob with a stab proof vest, ID badge on long lanyard, beard full of greggs steak bakes and a clip board.

Police will have the authority to redirect your bus essentially.

Bus companies will have to police this themselves. Or face strict punishment from Traffic Comm.

[JeMeSouviens]

It's to bring Scotland into line with rUK:

The proposed guidelines are the same as those currently in place in England and Wales, except for the legislative references.

The Senior Traffic Commissioner now considers it appropriate to consider a consistent approach across Great Britain.

[Hibs90]

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Nope, this is down to Humza Useless nowt to do with Sunak.

Oh dear.

This is the UK Govt trying to implement this in Scotland, they already have this in place down south.

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