Famous five lower

[keep the faith]

Finally got round to watching Wednesdays highlights.
Really need to do something about the FF lower. It's sold a lot of seasons but nobody shows up. It looks so bad on TV.
I had heard that many buy the cheap seasons in there and turn up occasionally. Not sure if that's true, but we need behind the goals busy.
That empty section is really visible and not a true reflection of the decent crowds inside ER at the moment.

[DarrenSQH]

I take my 3 year old son to games. He cant go to night games. I'm sure alot are in the same boat.

If they move the kids section it's only going to move the problem elsewhere.

[Onceinawhile]

Plenty spaces in the east and west as well.

[wookie70]

The East was empty too. The quietest part of the ground was the upper left section of the Famous Five where a previous incarnation of the singing section displaced Season Ticket holders who had sat there for ages. I attend games and I couldn't really care what it looks like on TV. We should cater for the fans that attend first and foremost and a safe family area is a big part of that.

However, saying all that I think getting the singing section as far away from the away end as possible is a good thing. We could get the family seats for a similar cost in the FF end of the East as there looks to be plenty seats there. Do it over a couple of seasons so fans have a chance to find seats and then the couple of hundred that like to sing can see if they can increase their number, I doubt it myself. The cost for behind the goal should be the same as it would be normally be.

[Since452]

Changing to singing section the season after next is it not? Just have to make do next season then it'll be better.

[Posh Swanny]

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The East was empty too. The quietest part of the ground was the upper left section of the Famous Five where a previous incarnation of the singing section displaced Season Ticket holders who had sat there for ages. I attend games and I couldn't really care what it looks like on TV. We should cater for the fans that attend first and foremost and a safe family area is a big part of that.

However, saying all that I think getting the singing section as far away from the away end as possible is a good thing. We could get the family seats for a similar cost in the FF end of the East as there looks to be plenty seats there. Do it over a couple of seasons so fans have a chance to find seats and then the couple of hundred that like to sing can see if they can increase their number, I doubt it myself. The cost for behind the goal should be the same as it would be normally be.

You might not care what it looks like on TV but TV companies do. Full stadiums is one of the reasons the game sells so well in England. If we can't actually fill them, we should at least try to make them look full on the telly. All about marketing the product.

[Leith Green]

Season tickets are the lifeblood of our club. So what if people buy a season ticket but miss matches for whatever reason. A family area will always have empty seats at most games , kids have lots of things going on , but at least their parents etc are doing their bit in bringing them in which will hopefully see them become supporters for life.

[Leith Green]

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You might not care what it looks like on TV but TV companies do. Full stadiums is one of the reasons the game sells so well in England. If we can't actually fill them, we should at least try to make them look full on the telly. All about marketing the product.

Lets not pretend that some empty seats at some of our home games is detrimental to scottish football and maximising tv income. They couldn’t give a toss about anything other than rangers and celtic. 1 out of 4 Edinburgh derbies were selected for live tv coverage , that tells you everything you need to know about tv companies interest in marketing scottish football

[Eyrie]

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You might not care what it looks like on TV but TV companies do. Full stadiums is one of the reasons the game sells so well in England. If we can't actually fill them, we should at least try to make them look full on the telly. All about marketing the product.

Taken to its extreme, we should only sell tickets in the West after the Famous Five, East and South are sold out.

I don't think you're advocating that though.

[HibbyAndy]

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I take my 3 year old son to games. He cant go to night games. I'm sure alot are in the same boat.

If they move the kids section it's only going to move the problem elsewhere.

Very true mate , But if they moved it away from the ff lower where it's so glaring on tv the empty seats for all to see ..Aberdeen sell all the bottom seats so it looks good on tv but the upper stand has no one in it , But looks like a sell out when on the telly

[Carheenlea]

I’m glad I don’t have my ST in the FF Lower.

If it’s not being demanded that you move seats to accommodate others it’s being castigated for not bringing your kids to every single game, midweek or not.

You’d almost feel guilty for buying one given the scrutiny you’re constantly put under!

[Onceinawhile]

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I’m glad I don’t have my ST in the FF Lower.

If it’s not being demanded that you move seats to accommodate others it’s being castigated for not bringing your kids to every single game, midweek or not.

You’d almost feel guilty for buying one given the scrutiny you’re constantly put under!

It's tiring after a couple of seasons alright.

[Lancs Harp]

Serious question do we actually need a family section? Many clubs moved in this direction a decade or two ago, most have abandoned it. We all know which areas of Easter Road are for the sake of a better expression more lively or vitriolic if thats not for you then there are plenty of areas in the ground to sit. No need for a family section certainly a family end in my humble opinion.

[Helensburghhibs]

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Serious question do we actually need a family section? Many clubs moved in this direction a decade or two ago, most have abandoned it. We all know which areas of Easter Road are for the sake of a better expression more lively or vitriolic if thats not for you then there are plenty of areas in the ground to sit. No need for a family section certainly a family end in my humble opinion.

I agree with this. Took my boy since he was 3 and never had a ticket in there.

[Lancs Harp]

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I agree with this. Took my boy since he was 3 and never had a ticket in there.

We didnt need a family section growing up to get hooked on the beautiful game did we?

[Nicho87]

I’d genuianly just swap them around

Kids / family upstairs

Block seven downstairs ideally in the centre block but understand if they stand that causes issues. But long term that would be standing/ singing section!

[Lago]

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I take my 3 year old son to games. He cant go to night games. I'm sure alot are in the same boat.

If they move the kids section it's only going to move the problem elsewhere.

Problem is its not just night or midweek games.

[H18 SFR]

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Finally got round to watching Wednesdays highlights.
Really need to do something about the FF lower. It's sold a lot of seasons but nobody shows up. It looks so bad on TV.
I had heard that many buy the cheap seasons in there and turn up occasionally. Not sure if that's true, but we need behind the goals busy.
That empty section is really visible and not a true reflection of the decent crowds inside ER at the moment.

I was there in the FFL. The seat to the right and to the left of me was empty because both my primary aged children had school the next day.

In terms of doing something about that, there is nothing that will impact me to do something about that until they are at secondary school at the earliest.

[overdrive]

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I’d genuianly just swap them around

Kids / family upstairs

Block seven downstairs ideally in the centre block but understand if they stand that causes issues. But long term that would be standing/ singing section!

That’s not swapping them around. And to hell with them messing around with that block in the upper again.

[H18 SFR]

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I’d genuianly just swap them around

Kids / family upstairs

Block seven downstairs ideally in the centre block but understand if they stand that causes issues. But long term that would be standing/ singing section!

Does that mean that everyone in the upper who likes their seat has to give way to someone from the lower? So that the fans from the east can take the seat of the fans currently in the lower?

[hibbydog]

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We didnt need a family section growing up to get hooked on the beautiful game did we?

Yeah but we were exposed to the worst language and behaviours ever and are traumatised because of it. Can’t have that nowadays tut tut

[Nicho87]

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Does that mean that everyone in the upper who likes their seat has to give way to someone from the lower? So that the fans from the east can take the seat of the fans currently in the lower?

No it means someone will be seating on your knee next season

You’ll soon adapt

[Brightside]

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I take my 3 year old son to games. He cant go to night games. I'm sure alot are in the same boat.

If they move the kids section it's only going to move the problem elsewhere.

Either corner of the west makes more sense.

[6-2MAGIC]

It looks bad on TV how empty the FF lower is. Behind the goals should be full how it was years ago, certainly makes a better atmosphere for the players I imagine aswell

[Brightside]

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It's tiring after a couple of seasons alright.

Unless people have 6 kids the gaps aren’t really about someone not bringing their kid to an evening game.

[wookie70]

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Serious question do we actually need a family section? Many clubs moved in this direction a decade or two ago, most have abandoned it. We all know which areas of Easter Road are for the sake of a better expression more lively or vitriolic if thats not for you then there are plenty of areas in the ground to sit. No need for a family section certainly a family end in my humble opinion.

My kids are older now but they both had STs in the Famous Five. The Family Section used to get sold to Adults for the big games so would fill up with "supporters" who wanted to come along to the big games and from what I saw and heard viewed it more as a reason to get leathered and shout abuse, mostly at our players. I had quite a few run ins asking those that had sat around us to calm it down with the hatred and language and respect they were in the family section. You need an area where families can go that is a little bit protected from teh worst of football fans. The family section will always be in teh cheap seats and those end up occupied by the last fans to buy tickets who tend to be there for the "experience". It could be in teh wing of the East though and if a planned was made that could happen. It won't make much difference though as the FFL will still be half empty regardless even if it was an open end.

[Johnny Clash]

I think it’s inevitable that the family section will relocate and the lower FF will fill up with the singing /standing section. A good atmosphere attracts fans - no doubt about it. Look at Nottingham Forest - even when they’ve struggled the City Ground has been rammed and noisy. We need that to become the norm at ER. All games will then be more enjoyable!

[Jones28]

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Serious question do we actually need a family section? Many clubs moved in this direction a decade or two ago, most have abandoned it. We all know which areas of Easter Road are for the sake of a better expression more lively or vitriolic if thats not for you then there are plenty of areas in the ground to sit. No need for a family section certainly a family end in my humble opinion.

I don’t think so. Been going to games since I was 4 and never once went to the family section.

[Johnny Clash]

I think it’s inevitable that the family section will relocate and the lower FF will fill up with the singing /standing section. A good atmosphere attracts fans - no doubt about it. Look at Nottingham Forest - even when they’ve struggled the City Ground has been rammed and noisy. We need that to become the norm at ER. All games will then be more enjoyable!

[Bridge hibs]

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I think it’s inevitable that the family section will relocate and the lower FF will fill up with the singing /standing section. A good atmosphere attracts fans - no doubt about it. Look at Nottingham Forest - even when they’ve struggled the City Ground has been rammed and noisy. We need that to become the norm at ER. All games will then be more enjoyable!

Folk seem to have this romantic notion that the FF lower will be bursting at the seams every home game. I get the need for a better atmosphere and I would love to see Easter Road bouncing every home game, we need the team to give us that though because if not then the FF lower will continue to remain quiet and underpopulated

I hope it works though, we need to change something, although to be honest Im more interested in looking at the team on the park as opposed to counting empty seats