BREAKING: Ivan Toney has been suspended from all football and football-related activity with immediate effect for eight months, fined £50,000, and warned as to his future conduct for breaches of The FA’s Betting Rules.
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Thread: NHC: Ivan Toney
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17-05-2023 04:51 PM #1
NHC: Ivan Toney
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17-05-2023 05:06 PM #2
Without having yet read the finer detail, seems incredibly harsh. Did Cantona not only get 9 months for attacking a fan?!
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17-05-2023 05:07 PM #3
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Doesn’t really seem proportionate to other punishments to the likes of Suarez.
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17-05-2023 05:15 PM #5
I quite like this.
It shouldn’t be happening and there needs to be a deterrent.
The light approach the authorities took to Ian Black was disgraceful.
I’m all for supporting those who admit to problems, I have less sympathy for those who end up taking part in activities that may call into question the integrity of the game.
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17-05-2023 05:23 PM #7
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17-05-2023 05:37 PM #8
The blanket ban on players betting on football gets a lot of stick but it makes sense to me. If players can bet on games they have the ability to influence the outcome of games for others and ask others to do the same for them. That's a potentially slippery slope. Fixed football matches happen and players acting in ways that ensure certain bets win happens. Allowing footballers to be could quite possible worsen that.
Toney knew the rules, he wilfully chose to break them. For all the pros of being a top level pro ootballer, the inability to be on one sport seems a small price to pay.
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17-05-2023 05:50 PM #10
How would the authorities have been able to find this out? A whistle blower from an online firm? Many moons ago, I worked in the betting industry and we had football players betting decent money on football games, but giving the bet to one of the pensioners to place it, in return for a few pints.
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17-05-2023 05:53 PM #11
He really must be thick to get caught, surely tae god he could get someone else to place bets if he must bet?
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17-05-2023 06:03 PM #12
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The entire racing industry is built on gambling but licensed jockeys are banned from betting on any race anywhere in the world. Rugby League players are the same. And tennis players. And so on and so on.
I really don't give a toss if Bet365 or SkyBet get done over by a dishonest pro fixing bets for either his mates or a dodgy syndicate. Ordinary punters are at risk as well though, as are us fans who may be watching a game which is being manipulated for dishonest purposes.
There's hypocrisy at play but ultimately the ban provides at least some protection for the integrity of the sport as being decided on honest sporting merits.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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17-05-2023 06:20 PM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'd been thinking he was really hard done to.
Thinking further though , he could.bet for his mates while his mates bet for him :-/
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17-05-2023 06:28 PM #17
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17-05-2023 06:32 PM #18
As far not even allowing him to train, I just think of what the point of that sanction is? I'd love to see a top lawyer test that in court, I think the FA would get shredded.
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17-05-2023 06:47 PM #19
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17-05-2023 07:26 PM #21
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I’m told he is suspected (without being proved)of heavy involvement in influencing spot betting.
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17-05-2023 08:05 PM #22
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18-05-2023 05:39 AM #24
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He'll be picking up a fortune for doing nothing for months. My heart isn't exactly breaking for him.
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18-05-2023 05:45 AM #25
Conflicted. It seems harsh, especially if he's not betting on anything he's involved in but some good points on this thread that he could be involved as he'll be more connected (that's a bit of a leap required there) and that it's a minor sacrifice for the life he has as a footballer.
There's the obvious hypocrisy of the whole thing too, betting sponsors and adverts are rife in and around the game and its all done with the intention of making people bet. He's exposed to that constantly.
I still think it should take into account what he has bet on though (which it might have, i dont think we know) and the likelihood he could have inside knowledge or influence on the outcome before things get as severe. Its a very hefty ban, and at a key stage for him when he's asserting himself in the premiership and just breaking through into the England team.
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18-05-2023 07:01 AM #26
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I have is that the integrity of the game, here is Scotland, starts with criminal bias towards two clubs by the governing body and their in field servants, the referees
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18-05-2023 07:08 AM #27This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
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18-05-2023 07:59 AM #29This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
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