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    At least they all looked as though they had seen a ball before

    Admittedly lots of stoatirs that did not make the list 😀
    I usually like your posts Billy. But that list of keepers being better than Rocky is one of the most outrageous posts I’ve seen on here

    Logan, Williams, Stack, Bell (surely not Cammy Bell?), Caig, Colgan… come on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2 View Post
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    I usually like your posts Billy. But that list of keepers being better than Rocky is one of the most outrageous posts I’ve seen on here
    As I said it was just off the top of my head

    Rocky is probably hovering around 10th but not quite

    Too many rookie errors man

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    Near post smear post

    55 seconds into this clip

    https://youtu.be/rGS9jOFVqSk

    Just like to point out guys I have not touched a drop all day just gets my back up when folks on here talk up Rocky as being great he was ok I personally thought he was a disaster just imho of course

    He is gone now anyway
    https://youtu.be/lrxaoJ7dUiQ

    Could also say there's not a hibs keeper in recent memory to have a highlight reel like this. The save at 1.45ish vs Dundee is ridiculously good.

    I agree he wasn't perfect, but for me, his shot stopping was enough to raise him above other keepers we have had. I get not rating him as highly but thinking he was a disaster is a bit mental

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    As I said it was just off the top of my head

    Rocky is probably hovering around 10th but not quite

    Too many rookie errors man
    Aye but what is it that’s came off the top of your head? Just random names? Cause it’s certainly not goalies better than Rocky

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    As I said it was just off the top of my head

    Rocky is probably hovering around 10th but not quite

    Too many rookie errors man
    Billy I like most of your posts, but IMO you've been wrong in your assessment about Rocky for years. He is far better than you make out, and that list of other keepers youve provided just confirms it.

    You've also listed 5 or so mistakes in his time with Hibs over 5 years, Goram had as many howlers as Rocky in a shorter space of time with Hibs - you can find some of them on youtube if you try. Leighton had loads too. All goalies make howlers, and Marshall is no different either.


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    https://youtu.be/lrxaoJ7dUiQ

    Could also say there's not a hibs keeper in recent memory to have a highlight reel like this. The save at 1.45ish vs Dundee is ridiculously good.

    I agree he wasn't perfect, but for me, his shot stopping was enough to raise him above other keepers we have had. I get not rating him as highly but thinking he was a disaster is a bit mental

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    Aye but what is it that’s came off the top of your head? Just random names? Cause it’s certainly not goalies better than Rocky
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    Maybe I'm in the minority here but I like Marshall and think he's a very good keeper. All keepers make mistakes and have bad games though when a keeper does , it's always scrutinized more than a outfield player . Marshall for me has good leadership qualities and has made some good saves this season and his distribution is normally excellent . Personally I think he can play another two years for us and he's the perfect mentor to help our young keeper ' Murray Johnson ' improve to take over eventually.

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    Cammy Bell and Tony Caig 😂

    Marciano is the best keeper we’ve had for a very long time in my opinion. At least 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    Maybe I'm in the minority here but I like Marshall and think he's a very good keeper. All keepers make mistakes and have bad games though when a keeper does , it's always scrutinized more than a outfield player . Marshall for me has good leadership qualities and has made some good saves this season and his distribution is normally excellent . Personally I think he can play another two years for us and he's the perfect mentor to help our young keeper ' Murray Johnson ' improve to take over eventually.
    Personally think he has been a very good signing. Hope he stays longer injury permitting

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    Really enjoyed this debate guys even if it is for the umpteenth time

    I will leave you with this thought imagine Rocky trying to manoeuvre his way around the new bye kick laws with two quick forwards in his face and inside his box

    Oh my aching sides 😂

    If any of my above posts have sewn the seeds of doubt and helped remove the myth that Rocky was a great goalkeeper for Hibs my work here is done 😀
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    Just off the top of my head

    Budgie
    Logan
    Williams
    Marshall
    Bogdan
    Andersson
    Stack
    Goram
    Leighton
    Bell
    Caig
    Colgan
    Rocky was streets ahead of Budgie, Logan, Bell, Caig, Colgan, Stack and Williams.

    Logan is a legend but one great game aside (and what a game it was) he was bang average. His howler at home v Falkirk in the play off was a big part of why we had a 3rd season in the Championship.

    Budgie was a character but he was (even more) erratic by the time he signed for us. They type of character we needed at the time but in his 2nd season he was making mistakes and was dropped for Chris Reid. Jim Leighton was a huge upgrade.

    Not sure the rest even need qualification. Caig is only rivalled by Simon Brown for worst goalkeeper I have ever seen at Hibs. He was utterly shocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Rocky was streets ahead of Budgie, Logan, Bell, Caig, Colgan, Stack and Williams.

    Logan is a legend but one great game aside (and what a game it was) he was bang average. His howler at home v Falkirk in the play off was a big part of why we had a 3rd season in the Championship.

    Budgie was a character but he was (even more) erratic by the time he signed for us. They type of character we needed at the time but in his 2nd season he was making mistakes and was dropped for Chris Reid. Jim Leighton was a huge upgrade.

    Not sure the rest even need qualification. Caig is only rivalled by Simon Brown for worst goalkeeper I have ever seen at Hibs. He was utterly shocking.
    Budgie ( Hibs cup winner and goalkeeping perfectionist) surprised at you PB His double save against the Hun helped win us the cup
    Williams and Colgan both better and a safer pair of hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Caig is only rivalled by Simon Brown for worst goalkeeper I have ever seen at Hibs. He was utterly shocking.
    Both terrible, but Andy McNeil beats them to the top of my list of worst Hibs keepers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easty View Post
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    Both terrible, but Andy McNeil beats them to the top of my list of worst Hibs keepers.
    Nonsense! Brown was bloody awful and worse than anything we ever had in my lifetime. Stinking attitude as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Just off the top of my head

    Budgie
    Logan
    Williams
    Marshall
    Bogdan
    Andersson
    Stack
    Goram
    Leighton
    Bell
    Caig
    Colgan
    Would swap out Bell for Szamotulski and Rocky may just sneak in at number 10 ahead of Tony Caig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Just off the top of my head

    Budgie
    Logan
    Williams
    Marshall
    Bogdan
    Andersson
    Stack
    Goram
    Leighton
    Bell
    Caig
    Colgan
    FFS Billy, it's a bit early to be on the sauce, Goram and Leighton i will give you but were donkeys years ago, you forgot about Graham Smith.

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    Maybe I'm in the minority here but I like Marshall and think he's a very good keeper. All keepers make mistakes and have bad games though when a keeper does , it's always scrutinized more than a outfield player . Marshall for me has good leadership qualities and has made some good saves this season and his distribution is normally excellent . Personally I think he can play another two years for us and he's the perfect mentor to help our young keeper ' Murray Johnson ' improve to take over eventually.
    Marshall is a great keeper and we're very lucky to have him. Sure he's made mistakes just like every other goalkeeper that's ever lived. I hope he's here for a good few more years yet unless some diamond comes along from out of the blue.

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    Both terrible, but Andy McNeil beats them to the top of my list of worst Hibs keepers.
    Hibs cup winning legend and nowhere near as bad as you're making out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Just off the top of my head

    Budgie
    Logan
    Williams
    Marshall
    Bogdan
    Andersson
    Stack
    Goram
    Leighton
    Bell
    Caig
    Colgan
    Is that a list of any 10 keepers off the top of your head?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crunchie View Post
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    Hibs cup winning legend and nowhere near as bad as you're making out.
    I don't think McNeil was a bad keeper as such but he just didn't have the height to be a really good keeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain G View Post
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    Nonsense! Brown was bloody awful and worse than anything we ever had in my lifetime. Stinking attitude as well.
    Can barely recall Brown making a save. He had short arms as well which didn't help!

    Did Bily actually say he thought Caig was better then Marciano??!!

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    I don't think McNeil was a bad keeper as such but he just didn't have the height to be a really good keeper.
    He suffered because of the 2 clowns he was in a squad with initially.

    He was still young and was basically thrown in because the other 2 were total incompetents. I remember Simon Brown came back in after McNeil got injured and put in one of the worst performances you will ever see against Rangers and that saw AM get back in.

    I place a lot of the blame at John Collins door. We needed a solid , dependable keeper to come in and steady the ship the following season. Instead he signed a youngster without a minutes first team football under his belt and we ended up rotating him and McNeil throughout the season. Andy actually done really well in the spell he played and was unfortunate to find himself back out the team again, he made a save away at Falkirk that I still can't get my head around how he actually did it.

    Neither Andy McNeil or MaKalambay should have found themselves in that position and it continued a problem that existed before they got here and lasted well after they had gone.
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    Can barely recall Brown making a save. He had short arms as well which didn't help!

    Did Bily actually say he thought Caig was better then Marciano??!!
    Bizarrely Brown made one of the best saves I have ever seen live.

    Away at Rangers in the cup, 0-3 win. At 0-0 Bob Malcolm hit an absolute rocket of a shot on the angle from about 20 yards, it was going right in the top corner and Brown was wrong footed, he somehow shifted his weight and got a hand on it to touch it onto the bar. It was the high point of his Hibs career by a distance, a ridiculously good save.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    Can barely recall Brown making a save. He had short arms as well which didn't help!

    Did Bily actually say he thought Caig was better then Marciano??!!
    😂

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    People complaining about rocky's distribution whilst championing Jim Leighton?

    Jeezo.

    Also, conrad logan - legend that he is - had one good game for hibs. The semi final.

    I don't think he saved any other shots in his time with us! He lost 5 goals in 2 games to falkirk ffs!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy View Post
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    Is that a list of any 10 keepers off the top of your head?

    I know but people on here have gone from thinking Rocky was a great keeper for Hibs to thinking would he even make the top 10 in the last 30 years which was a point made by another poster that I agreed with

    Does anyone know what Rocky is doing now out of interest ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    FFS Billy, it's a bit early to be on the sauce, Goram and Leighton i will give you but were donkeys years ago, you forgot about Graham Smith.
    I liked Graeme Smith but sadly with other clubs

    He was dugs*#t with us

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    I know but people on here have gone from thinking Rocky was a great keeper for Hibs to thinking would he even make the top 10 in the last 30 years which was a point made by another poster that I agreed with

    Does anyone know what Rocky is doing now out of interest ?
    He’s 2nd choice at feyenoord.

    Played in the semi final of the europa conference last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceinawhile View Post
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    He’s 2nd choice at feyenoord.

    Played in the semi final of the europa conference last year.
    No appearances in 2022/23

    Wasn’t on the bench at weekend

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    Bizarrely Brown made one of the best saves I have ever seen live.

    Away at Rangers in the cup, 0-3 win. At 0-0 Bob Malcolm hit an absolute rocket of a shot on the angle from about 20 yards, it was going right in the top corner and Brown was wrong footed, he somehow shifted his weight and got a hand on it to touch it onto the bar. It was the high point of his Hibs career by a distance, a ridiculously good save.
    I was going to mention that one as well, a stunning save.
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    Marciano is 33 and his contract at Feyenoord is up in the summer.
    Marshall has 15 months left on his deal so no chance of Rocky returning.
    I liked Rocky a lot but he is bound to have lost his edge due to barely playing at Feyenoord.

    Marciano made more saves than Marshall but his distribution wasn't as good.
    Marshall errors have cost us a few goals but importantly they have all occurred in games we were losing anyway.
    Both good keepers, as was Bogdan before the concussion that finished him.
    The best keeper we can afford is always the way to go.

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