We have to get players in this week

[Real Emerald]

If we don’t get some quality in this week, a CB attacking midfielder and a proper CF then our season is over before it’s started.

Ridiculous we are in this position at this time given the length of time we’ve needed these areas sorted.

I have no faith in the recruitment happening but I really need them to prove me wrong.

The squad is shambolic.

[Diclonius]

We are clearly looking for a CF and MF and there have been noises re a centre back. I'd say we need one of all three, each one being a proven upgrade on what we have, to challenge for top six.

I think we'll see one of the above and maybe a loan.

[Nicho87]

I wouldn’t let Gordon sign any more it’s just more dead wood to clear when he ****s off

[Northernhibee]

It’s all good and well having football manager running multiple leagues but stats only show you some things. We’ve entertained the owners son yet again in hiring interesting players who are in no way good enough.

We need a proper head of recruitment.

[BT58]

Its ok, weve signed players for the future. 5 years time we will be still trying to get in top 6.

[Hibernia&Alba]

There are about a dozen I would love to move out!

[GreenCastle]

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Its ok, weve signed players for the future. 5 years time we will be still trying to get in top 6.

I still don’t get this strategy - if the younger players are any good they will get sold very quickly.

Is the plan we make money and reinvest into 1st team?

But what if the 1st team is really bad and we can’t get decent players as they want to play Europe at Hearts or Aberdeen?

[Pretty Boy]

The manager called the club out post match last week. He's evidently as frustrated as the vast majority of fans are, or at least should be.

We were 'a couple of games away' from it clicking about 6 games ago. This squad doesn't have it. If we don't get the players the managers knows he needs in then we have thrown him under a bus just as we did with Ross last summer.

[ekhibee]

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There are about a dozen I would love to move out!

Yep, there is an ever growing pile of dross, but unfortunately it looks like everybody else knows they're dross too, so we can't sell them on!

[Northernhibee]

We have to get in someone to get in players, not just the owners clueless son.

[Pretty Boy]

Marshall - solid signing
Cadden - good player, starter
Hanlon - good servant, squad player
Porteous - struggling for form but starter
Cabraja - above average, starter
Doyle Hayes - proven not good enough
Newell - proven not good enough
Campbell - squad player
Boyle - best player, starter
Youan - good player, not a goalscorer
Doidge - finished, not good enough

Miller -not ready
Kenneh - decent player, squad player
Tavares - not ready
Schofield - signed as cover
Bojang - raw, won't make it
Henderson - not ready, squad player
Melkerson - not ready, squad player
Stevenson - solid option ,squad player
McGregor - semi retired development player

That was out team today and that's my brief assesment of each. That's after a window in which we signed 12 players. We really better hope Magennis and Nisbet come back absolutely flying and we sign a couple of real upgrades this week or it's going to be a long old season.

[Hibby70]

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Marshall - solid signing
Cadden - good player, starter
Hanlon - good servant, squad player
Porteous - struggling for form but starter
Cabraja - above average, starter
Doyle Hayes - proven not good enough
Newell - proven not good enough
Campbell - squad player
Boyle - best player, starter
Youan - good player, not a goalscorer
Doidge - finished, not good enough

Miller -not ready
Kenneh - decent player, squad player
Tavares - not ready
Schofield - signed as cover
Bojang - raw, won't make it
Henderson - not ready, squad player
Melkerson - not ready, squad player
Stevenson - solid option ,squad player
McGregor - semi retired development player

That was out team today and that's my brief assesment of each. That's after a window in which we signed 12 players. We really better hope Magennis and Nisbet come back absolutely flying and we sign a couple of real upgrades this week or it's going to be a long old season.

I'd pretty much agree with this.

[GreenCastle]

Cadden also isn’t a right back and plays better further forward.

[Real Emerald]

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Cadden also isn’t a right back and plays better further forward.

Your right, at this rate we would have been as well keeping McGinn, at least he is a right back. I’ve no idea what planning goes into squad building but I’m guessing it’s not a lot.

[CMac1988]

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Marshall - solid signing
Cadden - good player, starter
Hanlon - good servant, squad player
Porteous - struggling for form but starter
Cabraja - above average, starter
Doyle Hayes - proven not good enough
Newell - proven not good enough
Campbell - squad player
Boyle - best player, starter
Youan - good player, not a goalscorer
Doidge - finished, not good enough

Miller -not ready
Kenneh - decent player, squad player
Tavares - not ready
Schofield - signed as cover
Bojang - raw, won't make it
Henderson - not ready, squad player
Melkerson - not ready, squad player
Stevenson - solid option ,squad player
McGregor - semi retired development player

That was out team today and that's my brief assesment of each. That's after a window in which we signed 12 players. We really better hope Magennis and Nisbet come back absolutely flying and we sign a couple of real upgrades this week or it's going to be a long old season.

Zap. Can't disagree with much if any of that and that's the issue. The squad is too big and too many of the players are nowhere near good enough for where we need to be. Ron keeps wants us playing at the top and qualifying for Europe every season but In it's current for this squad will never accomplish that. Recruitment has been dreadful and I'm not sure how you reverse those decisions... Poor recruitment coupled with bad decisions on contracts extensions have led us here. Don't even think those at the club are aware how bad we are.

[Nicho87]

My take on the current squad

Marshall - starter
Cadden - starter
Porteous - starter
Hanlon - squad/ can leave
Mcgregor - retired
Cabraja - starter
Stevenson - utility squad
Bushiri - squad
Miller - squad

JDH - can leave
Newell - can leave
Campbell - squad / can leave
Tavares - squad
Henderson - can leave
McGeady - squad based on age
Kenneh - squad

Doidge - can leave
Melkerson - squad / start
Youan - starter as a 9
Bojang - squad / can leave if not good enough
Boyle - might be thinking Saudi Arabia wasn’t that far away after all

[Chorley Hibee]

We'll be served up the same last day loan ***** we get every year.

Club has learnt **** all over the summer and here we are reaping the rewards of that neglect once again.

Where do you even begin with this *****!

A midfield still based around Newell, JDH and Campbell. Still calling on Hanlon, Stevenson, McGregor as players. A bunch of untried youngsters with no/little first team experience. Some, like Miller and Tavares, who don't even look capable of playing football, never mind improving us.

Still to see anything that suggests the outlay on Melkersen was worth it either. A complete passenger week after week.

Doidge shouldn't pull on a Jersey again.

Appreciate the rant may seem a bit erratic, but I'm just scunnered with the whole club.

[Wheat Hound]

Would rather Ian Gordon didn't sign anyone else for us. So much wasted money already.

[LunasBoots]

A midfielder with a bit of pace/creativity going forward wouldnt go a miss.

[makaveli1875]

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Marshall - solid signing
Cadden - good player, starter
Hanlon - good servant, squad player
Porteous - struggling for form but starter
Cabraja - above average, starter
Doyle Hayes - proven not good enough
Newell - proven not good enough
Campbell - squad player
Boyle - best player, starter
Youan - good player, not a goalscorer
Doidge - finished, not good enough

Miller -not ready
Kenneh - decent player, squad player
Tavares - not ready
Schofield - signed as cover
Bojang - raw, won't make it
Henderson - not ready, squad player
Melkerson - not ready, squad player
Stevenson - solid option ,squad player
McGregor - semi retired development player

That was out team today and that's my brief assesment of each. That's after a window in which we signed 12 players. We really better hope Magennis and Nisbet come back absolutely flying and we sign a couple of real upgrades this week or it's going to be a long old season.

So basically we’re 8 starters short of a team . Probably make 2 signings max , neither will be ready for the 1st team

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We'll be served up the same last day loan ***** we get every year.

Club has learnt **** all over the summer and here we are reaping the rewards of that neglect once again.

Where do you even begin with this *****!

A midfield still based around Newell, JDH and Campbell. Still calling on Hanlon, Stevenson, McGregor as players. A bunch of untried youngsters with no/little first team experience. Some, like Miller and Tavares, who don't even look capable of playing football, never mind improving us.

Still to see anything that suggests the outlay on Melkersen was worth it either. A complete passenger week after week.

Doidge shouldn't pull on a Jersey again.

Appreciate the rant may seem a bit erratic, but I'm just scunnered with the whole club.

agree and we will get fed we blew the budget on Boyle etc

Cue the 19 year old wonder kid centre half from some guff down the road comes on loan on deadline day

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agree and we will get fed we blew the budget on Boyle etc

Cue the 19 year old wonder kid centre half from some guff down the road comes on loan on deadline day

We seemingly have loads of wonderkids in this development squad anyway. The reality is they are decent players for their age but miles away from what we need but we have spent alot of money on some of them when it was obvious the 1st team needed huge investment.
If these players were as good as they were made out to be then the cream of Europe would be after them.
Lee Johnson needs proper backing to get the players he wants not some overatted wonderkid from England and beyond.

[Ray Donovan]

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Marshall - solid signing
Cadden - good player, starter
Hanlon - good servant, squad player
Porteous - struggling for form but starter
Cabraja - above average, starter
Doyle Hayes - proven not good enough
Newell - proven not good enough
Campbell - squad player
Boyle - best player, starter
Youan - good player, not a goalscorer
Doidge - finished, not good enough

Miller -not ready
Kenneh - decent player, squad player
Tavares - not ready
Schofield - signed as cover
Bojang - raw, won't make it
Henderson - not ready, squad player
Melkerson - not ready, squad player
Stevenson - solid option ,squad player
McGregor - semi retired development player

That was out team today and that's my brief assesment of each. That's after a window in which we signed 12 players. We really better hope Magennis and Nisbet come back absolutely flying and we sign a couple of real upgrades this week or it's going to be a long old season.

As a few have said this is pretty much spot on.

If we don't get any more players in it will be so depressing.

[LewysGot2]

On the radio driving home LJ said he wants a new CB now Rocky is out.
We need more than that based on today alone.

St Mirren targeted Cabraja and succeeded. They targeted JDH and succeeded. They exploited the casual and unfocused Porteous (what the hell is he on at the moment?)
They had a spine from Carson all the way through to Main, who played well. Gallagher looks a smart signing.
They have a clear identity as a team - they're a clone of Robinsons version of Motherwell. We don't.

They'll finish above us if today is anything to go by. They're a top 6 potential finish. We aint

[cabbageandribs1875]

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On the radio driving home LJ said he wants a new CB now Rocky is out.
We need more than that based on today alone.

St Mirren targeted Cabraja and succeeded. They targeted JDH and succeeded. They exploited the casual and unfocused Porteous (what the hell is he on at the moment?)
They had a spine from Carson all the way through to Main, who played well. Gallagher looks a smart signing.
They have a clear identity as a team - they're a clone of Robinsons version of Motherwell. We don't.

They'll finish above us if today is anything to go by. They're a top 6 potential finish. We aint

their manager said he brought on Kiltie after 75 mins to try stop JDH causing them problems

[Callum_62]

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On the radio driving home LJ said he wants a new CB now Rocky is out.
We need more than that based on today alone.

St Mirren targeted Cabraja and succeeded. They targeted JDH and succeeded. They exploited the casual and unfocused Porteous (what the hell is he on at the moment?)
They had a spine from Carson all the way through to Main, who played well. Gallagher looks a smart signing.
They have a clear identity as a team - they're a clone of Robinsons version of Motherwell. We don't.

They'll finish above us if today is anything to go by. They're a top 6 potential finish. We aint

Did they have a lot of attacking success against Cabraja?

The boy nipped the ball just ahead of him for the build up atvteh goal but what else was a success?

I thought Cabraja was poor today but that was more on the ball

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[Sir David Gray]

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Marshall - solid signing
Cadden - good player, starter
Hanlon - good servant, squad player
Porteous - struggling for form but starter
Cabraja - above average, starter
Doyle Hayes - proven not good enough
Newell - proven not good enough
Campbell - squad player
Boyle - best player, starter
Youan - good player, not a goalscorer
Doidge - finished, not good enough

Miller -not ready
Kenneh - decent player, squad player
Tavares - not ready
Schofield - signed as cover
Bojang - raw, won't make it
Henderson - not ready, squad player
Melkerson - not ready, squad player
Stevenson - solid option ,squad player
McGregor - semi retired development player

That was out team today and that's my brief assesment of each. That's after a window in which we signed 12 players. We really better hope Magennis and Nisbet come back absolutely flying and we sign a couple of real upgrades this week or it's going to be a long old season.

Pretty much agree with this assessment.

Today's absentees;

Magennis - Fitness issues/potentially a starter if fit
Nisbet - Couple of months away/starter
Mitchell - Fitness issues/squad player
Dabrowski - Backup keeper
Tait - Squad player
Bushiri - Starter at the moment when fit but not great
McGeady - Probably a starter but hasn't started too well

So we have starters of;

Marshall
Cadden
Porteous
Cabraja
Boyle
Youan
Magennis
Nisbet
Bushiri
McGeady

10 players out of a squad of 28 who would be deemed as starters and some of them I'm being quite generous about.

Also 4 of those 10 are currently injured and won't be playing again anytime soon so we currently have 6 players in our entire squad who are good enough to start games for us.

Very grim.

[Hibees1973]

I honestly feel this recruitment team should not spend any more money on players. I no longer trust them.

Hopefully we have enough to stay out of the bottom two, but I have my doubts.

These idiots have signed inexperienced and unproven players from low levels. Players with poor injury records and handed out 4 year contracts to, at best, very average players we already have.

I expect us to plod along in the bottom 3 or 4 all season, which will crank up the pressure on Ron and his son.

They could be gone by this time next year.

Fingers crossed.

[One Day Soon]

Where are all the confident and slightly condescending posters from way back at the start of this window who were telling us that there were months and weeks of the window to go in which to sign the experienced players? I'm trying to remember what the excuses were back then - a mixture I think of players being too expensive early in the window and the club having its eye on the right players so we shouldn't be rushing to make signings. Utter bollocks.

We started off speculatively and it's largely carried on that way. We needed to sign a captain, a CB, a CM and a striker - and all of them needed to be first team starters in terms of both quality and experience. We've done precisely none of that and we've tried to address the captain issue with the keeper rather than an outfield player. LJ isn't getting better out of the players we already had and the ones who have come in aren't making the difference.

All of this, all of it, reeks of people who either don't know what they're doing (or just plain won't listen) making critical decisions. The result is that we are abjectly out of one of the two competitions we had a chance of winning (and that at the first and embarrassingly low hurdle), we've dropped 10 points in 5 games which is relegation play-off standard and we are playing the same turgid, low impact, one-speed football we were last year.

This feels like living a Hibernian version of watching that 'Sunderland 'Til I Die' documentary. Deeply average players, powerless management and feckless admin individuals spectacularly out of their depth while living the high life mimicking what they think serious people do at serious football clubs. This all seems gutless, heartless and, frankly, Hibsless.

Very, very, very cheesed off.

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Where are all the confident and slightly condescending posters from way back at the start of this window who were telling us that there were months and weeks of the window to go in which to sign the experienced players? I'm trying to remember what the excuses were back then - a mixture I think of players being too expensive early in the window and the club having its eye on the right players so we shouldn't be rushing to make signings. Utter bollocks.

We started off speculatively and it's largely carried on that way. We needed to sign a captain, a CB, a CM and a striker - and all of them needed to be first team starters in terms of both quality and experience. We've done precisely none of that and we've tried to address the captain issue with the keeper rather than an outfield player. LJ isn't getting better out of the players we already had and the ones who have come in aren't making the difference.

All of this, all of it, reeks of people who either don't know what they're doing (or just plain won't listen) making critical decisions. The result is that we are abjectly out of one of the two competitions we had a chance of winning (and that at the first and embarrassingly low hurdle), we've dropped 10 points in 5 games which is relegation play-off standard and we are playing the same turgid, low impact, one-speed football we were last year.

This feels like living a Hibernian version of watching that 'Sunderland 'Til I Die' documentary. Deeply average players, powerless management and feckless admin individuals spectacularly out of their depth while living the high life mimicking what they think serious people do at serious football clubs. This all seems gutless, heartless and, frankly, Hibsless.

Very, very, very cheesed off.

You aren’t alone.

It’s simply unacceptable and the fans are being taken as mugs.

They have a few days to get what we needed otherwise the pressure will really be on and fans will start to vent further. It’s obvious what’s needed so unacceptable they can’t address it with the resources we have.