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  1. 29-07-2022 03:08 PM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by evy View Post
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    We don't need to *beat* anyone in Scotland for his signature, we have first refusal.
    If someone offers to buy him for £2m, we would be given the opportunity to beat that price.

    That's what first refusal means.
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  2. 29-07-2022 03:27 PM #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    If someone offers to buy him for £2m, we would be given the opportunity to beat that price.

    That's what first refusal means.
    We would just need to match the offer not beat it surely
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  3. 29-07-2022 03:30 PM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldot1981 View Post
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    We would just need to match the offer not beat it surely
    £2m? £2,000,001? We haven’t got either.
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  4. 29-07-2022 03:40 PM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    £2m? £2,000,001? We haven’t got either.
    Didnt say we did
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  5. 29-07-2022 03:42 PM #35
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    It’s impossible for him to come back till after the financial year ends of he or someone is paying his tax in KSA. Or he takes a big hit on
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  6. 29-07-2022 03:50 PM #36
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    Boyle back would be the way to solve a lot of trouble at the club
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  7. 29-07-2022 06:18 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    He absolutely did not make the move to further his football career. He's a key player for Aus. He'll be in the squad regardless. Or will join another Saudi side. He simply won't be coming back here.
    Agree with most of your points but is he really a key player for Australia.
    I'm not convinced but hopefully he will have a great World Cup.
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  8. 29-07-2022 06:21 PM #38
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    Boyle isn’t coming back anytime soon. This is pie in the sky stuff thinking he’s coming back now.
    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=137585149611090
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  9. 29-07-2022 07:17 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by evy View Post
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    We don't need to *beat* anyone in Scotland for his signature, we have first refusal.
    We are given the option to match any offer in for him. That's all.

    It makes no sense to let him become available and alert other clubs. We need to be alive to the situation in the months ahead and not tie up more wages in a mikey Johnson type deal.
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  10. 29-07-2022 07:28 PM #40
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    The guy isn't gonna give up a million quid a year to come back for 250k he has to pay hefty tax on. Not going to happen.

    I wouldn't do it, and I don't think anyone on here would either.
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  11. 29-07-2022 07:52 PM #41
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    Martin Boyle wont be back at Hibs in the near future.
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  12. 29-07-2022 07:59 PM #42
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    If he has a good World Cup, come January he’ll have a good few clubs offering him a move from Saudi on far more money than Hibs will give him.

    He’s not coming back.
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  13. 29-07-2022 08:02 PM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    £2m? £2,000,001? We haven’t got either.
    We do...the deal was structured over a period of time. You just offset what we are due against the cost and we are quids in
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    Quote Originally Posted by scotiaf View Post
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    It’s impossible for him to come back till after the financial year ends of he or someone is paying his tax in KSA. Or he takes a big hit on
    There are accountants who make a living making sure you dont pay tax in the UK
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  15. 29-07-2022 08:18 PM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby View Post
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    There are accountants who make a living naking sure you dot pay tax in the UK
    If he’s working in the UK at football, he’s no chance of not paying full tax on it…it will be taxed at source , PAYE


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  16. 29-07-2022 08:19 PM #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    My guess is he’ll move to another club in the Middle East.
    Dundee Utd - in the Middle East and Arabs too???
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    How many season tickets/pay at the gate/shirt sales would we get if Boyle came back?

    Given the chance for him to come back (there’s this tax thing I don’t know enough about) the question is - can Hibs not afford to take it?

    Also explain the question influx of squirrels in the capital just now. Clever marketing ploy
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  18. 29-07-2022 08:53 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby View Post
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    There are accountants who make a living naking sure you dot pay tax in the UK
    They will tell him to stay where he is for now.
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  19. 29-07-2022 09:13 PM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish_Steve View Post
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    Dundee Utd - in the Middle East and Arabs too???

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  20. 29-07-2022 11:03 PM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldot1981 View Post
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    We would just need to match the offer not beat it surely
    Yes, match it.
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  21. 31-07-2022 04:06 PM #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarMan10 View Post
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    Don’t know why people can’t comprehend that Boyle doesn’t want to leave. He’s earning wages that will set him and his family up for life and that he wouldn’t get a sniff of earning anywhere else.

    If his club decided they wanted rid, been 0 indication of that, then it’s worth the discussion. Until then, no real point even discussing until at least next summer I would think.
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  22. 31-07-2022 05:17 PM #52
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    What would happen with his wages and the tax situation if he was loaned back to us…
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  23. 31-07-2022 05:20 PM #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by LustForLeith View Post
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    What would happen with his wages and the tax situation if he was loaned back to us…
    He would have the same problem as if he was sold to us.

    He would have to pay top-rate UK tax on everything he has earned in SA.
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  24. 31-07-2022 05:21 PM #54
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    Has he not been away more than 6 months? A few ex workmates of mine work out of the country and as long as its more than 6 months of the year they don't pay tax..

    Although it may be April to April
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helensburghhibs View Post
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    Has he not been away more than 6 months? A few ex workmates of mine work out of the country and as long as its more than 6 months of the year they don't pay tax..

    Although it may be April to April
    Without getting too technical...

    Basically, 6 months in any 1 tax year would remove him from UK Tax. He doesn't have that in either tax year.

    He could opt for the split-year basis,which would allow him to split the 6 months across tax years. But he can't do.that until he's been away a year.

    Disclaimer. Residency issues are notoriously complicated, so this is not necessarily chapter and verse on his situation. It is, however, something that is very real for him and which needs proper advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Without getting too technical...

    Basically, 6 months in any 1 tax year would remove him from UK Tax. He doesn't have that in either tax year.

    He could opt for the split-year basis,which would allow him to split the 6 months across tax years. But he can't do.that until he's been away a year.

    Disclaimer. Residency issues are notoriously complicated, so this is not necessarily chapter and verse on his situation. It is, however, something that is very real for him and which needs proper advice.
    Cheers for clarifying... I thought it may be the case
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    Horrible how many on here think money is the most important thing in all this chat.

    He may not give two hoots about the cash in the end if he is homesick, missing his family, not enjoying life in SA, not enjoying his career in SA, worried about a contract dispute, worried he’ll get stuck in SA…. So many more important things than money.

    It was a big decision to go to SA, life changing for him… but not all choices work out for the best.

    Many on here stating he will get offers after the World Cup… so why not come home, take a decent wee contract at Hibs for a couple years and hope he gets an offer from down South for a few years after the World Cup, just write off this whole experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaster View Post
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    What about an EBT
    Could we not just pretend to own a bank, borrow a shed load of money and owe all the debt to ourselves?



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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSheep View Post
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    Horrible how many on here think money is the most important thing in all this chat.

    He may not give two hoots about the cash in the end if he is homesick, missing his family, not enjoying life in SA, not enjoying his career in SA, worried about a contract dispute, worried he’ll get stuck in SA…. So many more important things than money.
    He signed purely for money tho desoite warnings regarding pay in Saudi. It was obviously very tempting but he moved for money not career enhancment. Boyler will end up playing in Aus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancs Harp View Post
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    He signed purely for money tho desoite warnings regarding pay in Saudi. It was obviously very tempting but he moved for money not career enhancment. Boyler will end up playing in Aus.
    I understand that, but that was then… this is now, the lad is allowed to regret his choice and want to come home.
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