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Thread: Ron Out Now
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21-07-2022 12:45 PM #91
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21-07-2022 12:59 PM #92
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21-07-2022 01:02 PM #93
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21-07-2022 01:11 PM #94This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I was optimistic that we have achieved a fair bit with the third place and Cup runs. I had concerns around Ross, after the cup final in particular. I still felt that Gordon had invested in the team and management and that the club was only a few shrewd additions away from consolidating. The club didn't invest that summer. Ross wasn't really given the full backing financially. It showed in our signings and our performances, particularly after the Magennis injury. We know the rest of the story.
I accept that investment from the Boyle and Doig transfers is needed in other parts of the club. The rationale is understandable, up to a point.
However, it's the lack of signing first team quality players. Changing manager, with hindsight, was an error. The subsequent appointment and signings combined to ensure that the team performed badly for most of the remainder of the season.
I thought that we would see the club undergo a serious facelift and as well as all the young players, we would see more quality incomers. Thing for me is, we still might do just that.
The club are in a process of change. There's a new ownership and ownership style. Commercial potential and getting the most out of the business seems to have progressed a lot, despite blips like the NFT farce. The football has at times promised much, but it's mostly been inconsistent and didn't fully deliver the goods.
I had hoped a new regime would see Hibs realise potential more and be well able to consolidate their ability to compete, as a top side. It's been topsy turvy and had some great high points (well a reasonable amount) and some crappy low ones. At the moment we seem to be taking a bizarre course, but as things stand, it's looking all a bit questionable.
All that said. Gordon is here and there's no credible alternative. Perhaps his ownership needs more than three seasons to bring it's full influence to bear?
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21-07-2022 01:24 PM #95
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21-07-2022 01:28 PM #96
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21-07-2022 01:45 PM #98
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I’ve no reason to disbelieve what I’ve been told.
Just like others who mention transfers etc, people have sources and to protect them they would never be publicly named.
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21-07-2022 01:52 PM #99
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I started this thread late last night and yet another embarrassing episode has been uncovered this morning regarding fielding an ineligible player.
It's past the joke stage now. Must admit I cannot see much positives just now and the season has barely started.
I'm signing off for a few weeks as the threads on here make depressing reading. Know I've contributed to this, but it is what it is. As a few other posters have stated I've become boring starting threads stating my doubts on the ownership of the club.
Looking ahead to the start of the league campaign gives me the fear based on who we have signed and who is running the club. Anything less than 4 points from the first 4 games and the alarm bells will start to ring even louder. A positive League Cup group campaign could have led to lapsed season ticket holders renewing, but Ron and his cohorts have already blown this.
Seems just now it's one debacle after the next.
Ron, his son and Kensall are ruining Hibs due to their incompetence.
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21-07-2022 01:54 PM #100This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-07-2022 02:03 PM #101This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Maybe folks that actually run a business of size can shed some additional perspective… The NFT fiasco I suppose was a punt, what is it hat we say “speculate to accumulate” is that just not applying that elsewhere? It’s not like flipping a light switch.
As an aside, Imagine if we’d had the COVID season with fans in the stadium? I think we’d have found a wee bit more of a connection that’s been eroded.
We are where we are and move forward."We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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21-07-2022 02:19 PM #102This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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21-07-2022 02:24 PM #103This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Ouch.
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21-07-2022 02:27 PM #104
No doubt some saying we're overeating, don't think so , Out of a Cup we usually do well in and it's not even August.
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21-07-2022 02:33 PM #105This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-07-2022 03:11 PM #106
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It’s not even season start and already we’ve signed a player because of a contract oversight, out the cup on both football and administrative failures, and signed more players for an U23 side than I can ever recall a club doing in Scotland. The owners son being in charge of recruitment should never of happened as he’s not qualified to do the role. The revolving manager door bringing with it the revolving player door, the club is an utter mess on and off the pitch. It’s lost identity, character, more importantly supporters, and arguably the trust of the fan base.
That’s my thoughts on things on a public forum bud. I simply can’t see Ron Gordon turning Hibs into anything near successful I’m afraid, pains me to say as it’s the club I love.
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21-07-2022 03:33 PM #107
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21-07-2022 03:36 PM #108
It's BK that needs punted for me. Ron clearly isn't an experienced football owner and needs someone guiding him along.
Don't think for a second RG is 'a con' otherwise he's a pretty punky one considering the money we're spending doing up the stadium and on signings.
BK oot, someone good in and I think things would change. Really don't trust BK at all.
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21-07-2022 04:18 PM #109
Summary of Ron Gordon's time at Hibs:
Games played: 146
Won: 62 (43%)
Drawn: 40 (27%)
Lost: 44 (30%)
League finishes: 7th, 3rd, 8th (average: 6th)
Cup record:
Wins: 0
Final: 2
Semi final: 4
Quarter final: 0
1st/2nd round: 1
Record v Hearts:
Played: 8
Won: 1 (13%)
Drawn: 2 (25%)
Lost: 5 (63%)
Goals for: 7 (0.9 per game)
Goals against: 12 (1.5 per game)
Record v Celtic/Rangers:
Played: 21
Won: 1 (5%)
Drawn: 5 (24%)
Lost: 15 (71%)
Goals for: 17 (0.8 per game)
Goals against: 44 (2.1 per game)
Record v Aberdeen:
Played: 11
Won: 4 (36%)
Drawn: 2 (18%)
Lost: 5 (45%)
Goals for: 11 (1 per game)
Goals against: 12 (1.1 per game)
Record in cup semi/finals
Played: 8
Won: 2 (25%)
Lost: 6 (75%)
Goals for: 10 (1.3 per game)
Goals against: 15 (1.9 per game)
Record in cup semi/finals against teams other than Celtic or Rangers
Played: 5
Won: 1 (20%)
Lost: 4 (80%)
Goals for: 4 (0.8 per game)
Goals against: 8 (1.6 per game)
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21-07-2022 04:42 PM #110This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-07-2022 04:54 PM #111This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We don't have an U 23 side, we have a development team. As we didn't have one previously it's no surprise we're recruiting a lot of players. I'm sure there's plenty valid concerns about our Club just now but making inaccurate comments doesn't help support your point.
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21-07-2022 05:00 PM #112
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21-07-2022 05:06 PM #113
Football side of Hibs is woeful just now and there is no getting away from that. And that’s the bit that matters most.
I’m RG’s defence, I would like to point out that he appears to be lifting the commercial side of the business far beyond anything Petrie could have managed.
Still, if he doesn’t sort out the football then who gives a monkeys.
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21-07-2022 05:14 PM #114
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I agree we’ve called it a Development Squad - and trust me I’m all for youth development and promoting that side of things (and investing properly in it) - but for all intents and purposes the DS is a team that’s going to be competing regularly with U23 sides to try and bridge gaps and fast track into the first team. But yep, I stand corrected on the correct squad definitions.
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21-07-2022 05:25 PM #115This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Games played: 1322
Won: 519 (39%)
Drawn: 339 (26%)
Lost: 464 (35%)
League finishes: 9th, 5th, 7th, 5th, 3rd, 5th, 9th, 10th, 1st (second tier), 6th, 3rd, 10th, 7th, 8th, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 6th, 6th, 4th, 10th, 11th, 7th, 11th, 2nd (second tier), 3rd (second tier), 1st (second tier), 4th, 5th (average: 7th)
Cup record:
Wins: 3 (1%)
Final: 6 (1%)
Semi final: 10 (21%)
Quarter final: 13 (27%)
1st/2nd round: 26 (54%)
Record v Hearts:
Played: 110
Won: 26 (24%)
Drawn: 38 (35%)
Lost: 46 (42%)
Goals for: 105 (1.0 per game)
Goals against: 148 (1.3 per game)
Record v Celtic/Rangers:
Played: 213
Won: 35 (16%)
Drawn: 46 (22%)
Lost: 132 (63%)
Goals for: 195 (0.9 per game)
Goals against: 423 (2.0 per game)
Record v Aberdeen:
Played: 108
Won: 32 (30%)
Drawn: 28 (26%)
Lost: 48 (44%)
Goals for: 119 (1.1 per game)
Goals against: 149 (1.4 per game)
Record in cup semi/finals
Played: 30
Won: 12 (40%)
Drawn: 2 (7%)
Lost: 16 (53%)
Goals for: 37 (1.2 per game)
Goals against: 49 (1.6 per game)
Record in cup semi/finals against teams other than Celtic or Rangers
Played: 21
Won: 9 (43%)
Drawn: 1 (5%)
Lost: 11 (52%)
Goals for: 28 (1.3 per game)
Goals against: 31 (1.5 per game)
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21-07-2022 05:50 PM #117
Seems he’s done another sit down with the fan podcasts. Unsure when it was filmed.
https://twitter.com/strong_op_hibs/s...-Gjjka-hRn0kFg
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21-07-2022 05:58 PM #118
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21-07-2022 06:01 PM #119This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteFollow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
https://longbangers.hubwave.net
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21-07-2022 06:13 PM #120
Don't think I'll bother.
Full of wind and pish. He actually thinks we have a good squad.
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