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    If hooligans here had any baws theyde copy the eastern European model,
    Equal numbers, fight oot in a field away fae civilisation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OstKurve Hibs View Post
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    If hooligans here had any baws theyde copy the eastern European model,
    Equal numbers, fight oot in a field away fae civilisation.
    spot on mate they wouldn't want to get their stone island jumper dirty though

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    Quote Originally Posted by OstKurve Hibs View Post
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    If hooligans here had any baws theyde copy the eastern European model,
    Equal numbers, fight oot in a field away fae civilisation.
    If anyone wants to go fighting just head down Ukraine way, they will accommodate no problem.
    He has a good name for a "B" rated cowboy film.

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    ma auld man told me about his experiences through in govan in the early 70s mick, yi hud to hide your colours from they smelly barstewards
    Back in the 60s i remember that Ibrox was an away day that youngsters were not allowed to attend on Hibs Supporters buses.
    Good reasonfor that,as you mention.
    The only other one would have been Aberdeen.
    It was a fair day out back then,Aberdeen.
    Buses leaving at breakfast time and getting back at dark o'clock.
    Boozy day! .Pit Stops ! No Children allowed.

    Ibrox mid/late sixties Ad be in ma late teens.
    A well known Hibby ,for some reason i cannot mind ,went in through a turnstile that led him right in the bear pit.
    He was on our bus,too!
    Cops escorted him round the track to the Hibs section.
    He was covered from head to toe in spittle,and red faced wae shock and anger.
    Missiles were being thrown at him on his walk round the running track.
    Animals then. Hated us with a passion,they did. Mutual here,of course

    Oh,the well known Hibby ?
    He was on top deck of the bus going down Leith Walk that great sunny Sunday afternoon, May 2016

    So he got the last laugh on the hun !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick O'Rourke View Post
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    Back in the 60s i remember that Ibrox was an away day that youngsters were not allowed to attend on Hibs Supporters buses.
    Good reasonfor that,as you mention.
    The only other one would have been Aberdeen.
    It was a fair day out back then,Aberdeen.
    Buses leaving at breakfast time and getting back at dark o'clock.
    Boozy day! .Pit Stops ! No Children allowed.

    Ibrox mid/late sixties Ad be in ma late teens.
    A well known Hibby ,for some reason i cannot mind ,went in through a turnstile that led him right in the bear pit.
    He was on our bus,too!
    Cops escorted him round the track to the Hibs section.
    He was covered from head to toe in spittle,and red faced wae shock and anger.
    Missiles were being thrown at him on his walk round the running track.
    Animals then. Hated us with a passion,they did. Mutual here,of course

    Oh,the well known Hibby ?
    He was on top deck of the bus going down Leith Walk that great sunny Sunday afternoon, May 2016

    So he got the last laugh on the hun !!
    haha superb post mick hope you and the family are well HGSP GGTTH

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    I would recommend a book called Hibs Boy by Andy Blance, it's an excellent read if you want to find out more about the casuals and in particular CCS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick O'Rourke View Post
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    Plonker?
    Thats more Green Street language than Edina Street
    The eejit did these daft films a few years ago.
    He once pledged to come to Scotland and wished to join the zombies casuals
    Their forum had a similar reaction as here.
    Told him no thanks ,we have enough home-grown bams.
    Miami?
    Plenty competition down there if he wants a gang street fight !

    i was watching Del Boy and Wodney Trotter on holiday there just last night in only fools and horses, Del Boy's double(himself) was a pure Gangsta
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    I would recommend a book called Hibs Boy by Andy Blance, it's an excellent read if you want to find out more about the casuals and in particular CCS.
    I'll give it a miss. Never understood the British fascination with books and films on thugs and gang culture.

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    back in the 60s i remember that ibrox was an away day that youngsters were not allowed to attend on hibs supporters buses.
    Good reasonfor that,as you mention.
    The only other one would have been aberdeen.
    It was a fair day out back then,aberdeen.
    Buses leaving at breakfast time and getting back at dark o'clock.
    Boozy day! .pit stops ! No children allowed.

    Ibrox mid/late sixties ad be in ma late teens.
    A well known hibby ,for some reason i cannot mind ,went in through a turnstile that led him right in the bear pit.
    He was on our bus,too!
    Cops escorted him round the track to the hibs section.
    He was covered from head to toe in spittle,and red faced wae shock and anger.
    Missiles were being thrown at him on his walk round the running track.
    Animals then. Hated us with a passion,they did. Mutual here,of course

    oh,the well known hibby ?
    He was on top deck of the bus going down leith walk that great sunny sunday afternoon, may 2016

    so he got the last laugh on the hun !!
    fd ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekhibee View Post
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    I would recommend a book called Hibs Boy by Andy Blance, it's an excellent read if you want to find out more about the casuals and in particular CCS.
    these colours dont run by derek dykes is a decent read aswell pal

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldEast View Post
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    I'll give it a miss. Never understood the British fascination with books and films on thugs and gang culture.
    Read a review of one of these yesterday.
    It appeared to be more about of a criminal career path the author embarked on than him than being involved in football related fighting.
    From scared and intimidated ....to scare and intimidate.

    Finest book i ever read was written by Robert Tressell

    More about casual labourers !!
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    Read a review of one of these yesterday.
    It appeared to be more about of a criminal career path the author embarked on than him than being involved in football related fighting.
    From scared and intimidated ....to scare and intimidate.

    Finest book i ever read was written by Robert Tressell

    More about casual labourers !!
    In their ragged trousers. I agree

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    these colours dont run by derek dykes is a decent read aswell pal
    I've heard that's a good read too, will try and get it on Amazon.

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    The only book about hooligans I’ve enjoyed reading was “Among The Thugs” by Bill Buford.

    Different to the usual over exaggerated and self aggrandising personal accounts as Buford was an American journalist living in the UK who became fascinated by the hooligan culture of the late 80’s and met up with and travelled with groups to learn more of the movement. It’s a different take and well worth a read.

    I’m 52 so old enough to have caught the rise of the casuals from 80’s onwards. Never had the fighting prowess, nerve, or money to buy the clothes, so not something I got involved with!
    Like any other youth cult, when you look back and compare to now, there’s little resemblance.

    While now there seems to be a regulation hooligan outfit of jeans, trainers, Stone Island, where back in the day different gangs had their own look, perhaps dictated by what was available in their own towns an cities to buy and folk were a bit more inclined to sport new fashions and styles.
    A bit like The Mods where in the 60’s the idea was for individuality and to try and stand out from the crowd, but when the revival came around in the late 70’s/80’s it was a regulation uniform of desert boots and parkas.

    Like most of these movements - best left to the kids and not for fat folk in their middle age..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carheenlea View Post
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    The only book about hooligans I’ve enjoyed reading was “Among The Thugs” by Bill Buford.

    Different to the usual over exaggerated and self aggrandising personal accounts as Buford was an American journalist living in the UK who became fascinated by the hooligan culture of the late 80’s and met up with and travelled with groups to learn more of the movement. It’s a different take and well worth a read.

    I’m 52 so old enough to have caught the rise of the casuals from 80’s onwards. Never had the fighting prowess, nerve, or money to buy the clothes, so not something I got involved with!
    Like any other youth cult, when you look back and compare to now, there’s little resemblance.

    While now there seems to be a regulation hooligan outfit of jeans, trainers, Stone Island, where back in the day different gangs had their own look, perhaps dictated by what was available in their own towns an cities to buy and folk were a bit more inclined to sport new fashions and styles.
    A bit like The Mods where in the 60’s the idea was for individuality and to try and stand out from the crowd, but when the revival came around in the late 70’s/80’s it was a regulation uniform of desert boots and parkas.

    Like most of these movements - best left to the kids and not for fat folk in their middle age..
    Thoughtful piece ..modernism was about breakthrough clothes, music and design ..never about parkas and targets ….I enjoy understanding youth culture through the ages…the casual movement (for example ) redefined fashion for many for decades ….

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    I met a few guys from Edinburgh in a bar in Faro for the Scotland Gibraltar game a few years ago. They seemed decent enough and chatted football and music etc. They seemed caught between two worlds. One said he was now a social worker but every now and then he slipped back into his old world and boasting about the reputation he used to have before checking himself.

    On face value he seemed decent enough to briefly chat to, lo and behold I then read about him in one of the Hibs casual books and a story about him stabbing students in the meadows simply because he didn’t like students. Probably not black and white in terms of judging people on their past v now.

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    I would recommend a book called Hibs Boy by Andy Blance, it's an excellent read if you want to find out more about the casuals and in particular CCS.
    Is there a section about his ladder at cove?

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    I mean, he’s right. CCS retired as reigning champions so can never be bettered.

    Those days thankfully long gone.

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    We could do with recycling that fighting spirit in the stands these days.

    When the opposition scores a goal instead of immediately bouncing back and willing on the team to fight, there’s a sudden emptying of bowels and bladder followed by a deathly silence. Hardly surprising that the reaction of the eleven on the park seems to be a mirror image.

    At Hampden in May 2016, when Stubbs switched it up after Halliday’s goal, our strengthened midfield stepped forward and took the battle to the cream buns. Fans gave their backing and the rest, as they say, is history.

    The place for showing we are tough guys is in the stadium on a match day.

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    There's obviously still a strong hooligan/casual element down south. I remember Hibs sending a strong crew down to Millwall and getting a tanking. mind you, I think most casuals will get a tanking if they go to Millwall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekhibee View Post
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    There's obviously still a strong hooligan/casual element down south. I remember Hibs sending a strong crew down to Millwall and getting a tanking. mind you, I think most casuals will get a tanking if they go to Millwall.
    You don’t “remember” very well then.

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    You don’t “remember” very well then.
    In that case I stand corrected and apologize, was only going with what I was told by others.

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    I remember being at an away game a few years back, Inverness at the erse end of the summer. The older CCS boys were sat there and a particularly persistent wasp was bothering them. I can assure you these colours do in fact run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC_Hibs View Post
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    You don’t “remember” very well then.
    I know someone who was at the game with his wife at the time. He's not a casual so wasn't pavement dancing beforehand but said at the turnstiles Hibs fans were getting battered all over the place from Millwall hooligans as they tried to enter the ground.

    After the game it was the same, hellish for fans as Millwall were attacking them all the way back to the station.

    From the stories I've heard it seems like the Hibs mob took Millwall by surprise but when Millwall realised what was happening they handed out a few dooings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    I know someone who was at the game with his wife at the time. He's not a casual so wasn't pavement dancing beforehand but said at the turnstiles Hibs fans were getting battered all over the place from Millwall hooligans as they tried to enter the ground.

    After the game it was the same, hellish for fans as Millwall were attacking them all the way back to the station.

    From the stories I've heard it seems like the Hibs mob took Millwall by surprise but when Millwall realised what was happening they handed out a few dooings


    My younger brother Billy was working just north of London at that time and went to the game with a couple of workmates.
    One i know also a Hibby. I cannot remember if the met the Hibs Boys.
    Anyway,they became aware that the CCS did do a bit of damage,possibly the evening before and just before the game.
    A pub attack i think,that alerted the locals something was afoot.
    Once the "tom tom" drums sounded through the Isle of Dogs, that the reservation was under attack,the natives put on their war paint and assembled to meet the green invaders.
    Once inside the camp i am told,there was not much of watching the game as watching your back,front and sides...and heads!

    Billy and his pals managed to get a lift from a friendly local van driver out of the natives camp and back to the safety of the fort !

    Now our Billy,God bless him,was no slouch and could handle himself,but he knew the odds were massive.
    Seemed like the whole Isle of Dogs/Millwall tribe appeared from all sides. So time to ride out.
    And not an easy part of London to escape from.
    If you are unfamiliar,its like a cul-de-sac down that area.
    Must have been scary for some to find their bearings with the mayhem going on.


    I am told the older Millwall guys remember that day with fondness and a Hibs brass neck!!

    My first cousin,now a London cabby who follows Fulham,says they were astonished when they heard the Hibs went into the Lions Den.
    But him being half Scottish ,was not that surprised,having seen the Tartan Army in full flow in London/Wembley during the 70s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick O'Rourke View Post
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    My younger brother Billy was working just north of London at that time and went to the game with a couple of workmates.
    One i know also a Hibby. I cannot remember if the met the Hibs Boys.
    Anyway,they became aware that the CCS did do a bit of damage,possibly the evening before and just before the game.
    A pub attack i think,that alerted the locals something was afoot.
    Once the "tom tom" drums sounded through the Isle of Dogs, that the reservation was under attack,the natives put on their war paint and assembled to meet the green invaders.
    Once inside the camp i am told,there was not much of watching the game as watching your back,front and sides...and heads!

    Billy and his pals managed to get a lift from a friendly local van driver out of the natives camp and back to the safety of the fort !

    Now our Billy,God bless him,was no slouch and could handle himself,but he knew the odds were massive.
    Seemed like the whole Isle of Dogs/Millwall tribe appeared from all sides. So time to ride out.
    And not an easy part of London to escape from.
    If you are unfamiliar,its like a cul-de-sac down that area.
    Must have been scary for some to find their bearings with the mayhem going on.


    I am told the older Millwall guys remember that day with fondness and a Hibs brass neck!!

    My first cousin,now a London cabby who follows Fulham,says they were astonished when they heard the Hibs went into the Lions Den.
    But him being half Scottish ,was not that surprised,having seen the Tartan Army in full flow in London/Wembley during the 70s.
    IIRC we were given a police escort en masse to the train station and sent back into Central London for the police there to deal with us, I was more than grateful to be honest. 😀

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    My son worked behind the bar in a very posh golf club near here. Got chatting to a member who was well connected to Millwall and he was invited to a match.

    Full hospitality, the works.

    Then mentioned he was a Hibby...

    Response was "Oh, no, no no !" offer withdrawn. obviously the old guy had less than fond memories of the last visit!
    Alcohol IS the answer, but I forget the question...

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    I went down with a couple of mates, I'm sure the game got moved at very short notice to the Friday night, my memory is about 50% of those who went down were casuals and I think our support was around 7/800, there was an interesting atmosphere before during and after the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gmack7 View Post
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    I went down with a couple of mates, I'm sure the game got moved at very short notice to the Friday night, my memory is about 50% of those who went down were casuals and I think our support was around 7/800, there was an interesting atmosphere before during and after the game
    It was my first time in the big smoke, it was certainly a bit of a character building weekend! 😲

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    IIRC we were given a police escort en masse to the train station and sent back into Central London for the police there to deal with us, I was more than grateful to be honest. 😀
    That's pretty much how I remember it too. There were so many old bill out after the game closing off all the side streets that we got escorted into the centre with no bother. We got on the sleeper leaving Euston. Before the game was when everything happened.

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