Lucky we are not interested in fair play up here or one or two of clubs would be looking at point deductions.
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22-03-2019 10:49 AM #1
Financial Fair Play
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22-03-2019 10:56 AM #2
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The rangers not about £23,000,000 in the hole at the moment
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22-03-2019 12:54 PM #4
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If the rules existed in Scotland one does wonder if the limits would be lowered and would HMFC and their anonymous £8,800,000 be caught by it?
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22-03-2019 01:06 PM #5
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I mean, it's a bizarre state of affairs, and you do have to wonder who can afford to throw all this money at the club year after year (I dunno if your £8 million includes their Save the Children sponsorship, which is effectively a laundered donation to Hearts too), but, on the face of it, it's probably not an FFP issue.
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22-03-2019 01:17 PM #6
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The £8.8m is the round sum donations only. STC sponsorship is an extra £2m+
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In Scotland, borrowing to the point of administration is rewarded. All the prizes you win on the way you get to keep.
It’s Sevco doing it just now and they were rewarded with European participation this season. Will Hearts follow soon? Who knows but why not really if it gets them some silverware or European football. There is no downside.
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22-03-2019 02:14 PM #9
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One thing that I’ve been wondering is, if FoH are to gain ownership of HMFC on repayment of the £2.4m Bidco loan, why didn’t the anonymous donor send 1/5th of his contributions to FoH instead of piling it all in to HMFC? The fans could have had ownership by now instead of some indeterminate date in the future.
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22-03-2019 02:17 PM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
2. Because none of the donors are interested in fan ownership.
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22-03-2019 02:25 PM #11This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Did Budge not say some of the big donors were FoH contributors too ?
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22-03-2019 02:56 PM #14
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2. The donor doesn’t have any say on fan ownership, it’s going ahead regardless of what he/she/they say.
The overall effect is only one of timing:
£10m thrown at the club now and £2.4m repayment of the loan in the future by FoH would be, give or take 18 months, the same as:
£7.6m thrown at the club now, £2.4m repayment of Bidco loan now, and £2.4m from FoH that would be thrown at the club by FoH if no need to repay Bidco loan.
It’s just odd that the donor would delay the future certain aim of the club being fan owned.
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22-03-2019 03:02 PM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-03-2019 03:24 PM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Thread title needs changed then.......................
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22-03-2019 03:47 PM #17
I think the rules are pretty tough down there, the authorities have realised that there were too many clubs sailing too close to the wind and that they were in serious danger of getting into bother.
Sunderland have had issues rebuilding their squad whilst having so many big earners on their books from their bad old days as a huge chunk of their playing budget is still taken up on only 3 or 4 players. At least they're getting a little bit of football out of these earners this year, but the amount of money they are able to shell out on new players has needed to be seriously restricted.
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22-03-2019 05:14 PM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Had the donors been more interested in fan ownership than the purposes they donated to, they would have gone through FOH.
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22-03-2019 07:40 PM #19
Hearts are not in any financial danger. Quite the contrary, in fact.
The Rangers, on the other hand...
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23-03-2019 05:47 AM #20
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By contrast, Hibs bank account at the same time was showing a balance of £4.2m. No anonymous donation(s) needed. Although it would have been nice.Last edited by cocteautwin; 23-03-2019 at 06:12 AM.
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23-03-2019 06:25 AM #21
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Hearts finances are more than fine. We need to stop kidding ourselves. Sevco on the other hand......
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23-03-2019 07:45 AM #22This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If that money were to dry up and the fans retained the same sense of entitlement then they might be in trouble.
Anonymous donors losing interest, fans losing patience with a pish team, a horrific Brexit-induced recession causing ordinary folk to tighten their belts..........
Mainly wishful thinking but not impossible.
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23-03-2019 10:06 AM #23
Hearts are reasonably secure due to the Save Hearts In Trouble money. Its members have been contributing for that long that they no longer notice the money going out each month.
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23-03-2019 11:48 AM #24
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I think the main reason for down south being so stringent on finances, is because of the amount of money floating about in English football!
When you think about it £38 million is a pretty ordinary transfer fee down there, so it could be wiped out as soon as the transfer window opens if you have a decent player!
Up here one of those transfer fees alone could be a turning point of Scottish football if it was shared around all the clubs!!!
Its why SKY money invested in English football has completely changed their arrogant demeanor from one of the best leagues in the world, to arguably the best!!!
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23-03-2019 12:17 PM #25
Stringent when it suites them. Ask the fans of Blackpool, Portsmouth, Coventry, Port Vale et al.
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23-03-2019 12:46 PM #26This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They weren't always.
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