Kazahkstan vs Scotland (Match Updates)

[cabbageandribs1875]

3-1 Belgium on 87 mins

[Diclonius]

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3-1 Belgium on 87 mins

We absolutely need Belgium to win every game now. Actually, no we don't. It doesn't matter.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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We absolutely need Belgium to win every game now. Actually, no we don't. It doesn't matter.

the Russians will beat us, i'm not even very hopeful of beating the Cypriots

[Sir David Gray]

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We absolutely need Belgium to win every game now. Actually, no we don't. It doesn't matter.

We have as much chance of qualifying as San Marino i.e. no chance.

We're simply in these qualification groups to make up the numbers.

[Besties Debut]

Willie Miller said that the players looked disinterested and that is probably the most daming indictment I've heard so far. If a player is not interested in playing for the national team what is the point of getting on the plane in the first place.

[Diclonius]

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We have as much chance of qualifying as San Marino i.e. no chance.

We're simply in these qualification groups to make up the numbers.

It's absolutely criminal that our qualification campaign was ended after nine minutes.

Nine. Minutes.

[vuefrom1875]

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Willie Miller said that the players looked disinterested and that is probably the most daming indictment I've heard so far. If a player is not interested in playing for the national team what is the point of getting on the plane in the first place.

Who cares🤔

[Besties Debut]

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Who cares🤔

Obviously no the ones in dark blue

[vuefrom1875]

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They have stronger genetics than us. We have to look at the genes

Perhaps Dr.Mengele?

[B.H.F.C]

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Willie Miller said that the players looked disinterested and that is probably the most daming indictment I've heard so far. If a player is not interested in playing for the national team what is the point of getting on the plane in the first place.

Most of them don’t give a toss about playing for Scotland these days.

Having agreements with English clubs that we won’t play their players on a plastic pitch is nonsense as well. Weak management. The players should have been told to turn up or not bother next time.

[Swedish hibee]

This thread has made me feel depressed. And I'm not in Scotland!

[007]

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What is the point in giving Mcnulty 10 minutes?

Win bonus.

[WestStandhibee]

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Willie Miller said that the players looked disinterested and that is probably the most daming indictment I've heard so far. If a player is not interested in playing for the national team what is the point of getting on the plane in the first place.

He also thinks McLeish should get to take charge of the playoff next year which is an even bigger indictment

[tonyrougier123]

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Willie Miller said that the players looked disinterested and that is probably the most daming indictment I've heard so far. If a player is not interested in playing for the national team what is the point of getting on the plane in the first place.

The scary thing for me was that was them interested.just tactically and physically outclassed by a team that had a gameplan.

[vuefrom1875]

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Obviously no the ones in dark blue

Correct.

[goosefat]

Things to do whilst Scotland are playing:

1. Rewind video tapes
2. Sort socks
3. Defrost the freezer
4. Tax return
5. Straighten all the pictures on your walls
6. Power wash the decking

[Slavers]

They should call it a day and go with a British team if this is what the Scottish team has become.

[Sir David Gray]

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Things to do whilst Scotland are playing:

1. Rewind video tapes
2. Sort socks
3. Defrost the freezer
4. Tax return
5. Straighten all the pictures on your walls
6. Power wash the decking

7. Go for a tooth extraction.

[Smartie]

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Most of them don’t give a toss about playing for Scotland these days.

Having agreements with English clubs that we won’t play their players on a plastic pitch is nonsense as well. Weak management. The players should have been told to turn up or not bother next time.

My brother was talking to a former English premier league chairman recently, and he was talking about how the biggest challenge in football is to motivate multi-millionaires who have made it.

The list of call-offs and some of the reasons behind them were frankly disgraceful, but I think I understand what is going on.

The better, higher-profile players simply couldn't give a flying one about playing for Scotland. Players with something to prove, players with their big moves ahead of them rather than behind them will actually be interested but 30 odd year old Sheffield Wednesday players just aren't going to be interested in playing for Scotland alongside Aberdeen players.

The gameplan was crap, the players disinterested and the tactics hopeless but McLeish can only do what he can with whoever decides to turn up, and I can't see any more players being interested under another manager.

It pains me to say it as I used to follow the national side fervently but theses guys who follow the team home and away are getting the utter pish ripped out them. Football is in the process of selling its soul and this is just another symptom of the decline.

[Beefster]

This is what happens when you an association settles for a succession of out-of-job, old-school managers, who can’t keep a job for more than 6 months at a time. Fair enough, they tried to get O’Neill but they immediately fell back into default mode as soon as he said no.

[JimBHibees]

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Carlton Palmers laddie.

No relation

[JimBHibees]

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This is what happens when you an association settles for a succession of out-of-job, old-school managers, who can’t keep a job for more than 6 months at a time. Fair enough, they tried to get O’Neill but they immediately fell back into default mode as soon as he said no.

The appointment of Eck was bizarre he hadn't had a job in about 8 years which you would have thought would have been a concern. Maybe the Sfa president (you know the miserable wee guy who gave us the cup) organising McLeishs testimonial as a player had more to do with it. Beyond embarrassing. Strachan should have stayed unless we were getting better in.

[Deansy]

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This is what happens when you an association settles for a succession of out-of-job, old-school managers, who can’t keep a job for more than 6 months at a time. Fair enough, they tried to get O’Neill but they immediately fell back into default mode as soon as he said no.

Totally agree - in the last few years we've seen the Hun cheating for, at least, a decade, yet still in the Scottish game ??. We haven't qualified for the WC/EC since 1998 - but has anyone at the GFA been sacked or demoted for such appalling 'governance' ?. Have they *** !. I seem to remember something about them hiring Henry McLeish to 'Save our game' but, no big shock, nothing of note emerged from that. Our game/organisation is just a farce - it's sole purpose is to ensure that the 'Status Quo' of all the honours being handed to one or the other of the 'Old S*um' and for the blazers to fly business-class and stay in 5-star hotels at all the big games - big games that almost never involve Scotland !

Until the GFA are wiped out, our game is going nowhere except further downhill !

[theonlywayisup]

Quote "Graeme Shinnie has said he can’t see himself getting back in the Scotland side after the national team’s nightmare in Astana"

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...nked-at-117th/

It really shows how far we've fallen as a footballing nation if we're down to selecting Graeme Shinnie, a 27 year old midfielder, for his first cap as an emergency left back. What's the point of that? Why select Lewis Stevenson at left back in the summer time, then don't consider him for this game.

Over the years, we've capped players who are nowhere near international class. In saying that, I'm including guys like Stevenson - good honest pro but never an international. And guys like McNulty - how can someone suddenly turn up at Hibs and play well in a few games against teams of a similar standard and then suddenly become an internationalist.

[JimBHibees]

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Quote "Graeme Shinnie has said he can’t see himself getting back in the Scotland side after the national team’s nightmare in Astana"

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...nked-at-117th/

It really shows how far we've fallen as a footballing nation if we're down to selecting Graeme Shinnie, a 27 year old midfielder, for his first cap as an emergency left back. What's the point of that? Why select Lewis Stevenson at left back in the summer time, then don't consider him for this game.

Over the years, we've capped players who are nowhere near international class. In saying that, I'm including guys like Stevenson - good honest pro but never an international. And guys like McNulty - how can someone suddenly turn up at Hibs and play well in a few games against teams of a similar standard and then suddenly become an internationalist.

Shinnie has played for Scotland before I am sure. There was an almighty clamour for him to be selected for Scotland a couple of years back with Kris Boyd famously commenting he shouldn't be. While agreeing that was as a defensive midfielder he has played a good number of years before as a left back and the way he and McKenna were caught out was pub league stuff. Straight ball over the top, ball inside the full back are basics.

[LancsHibs]

Who cried out of this Scotland squad? Can someone produce a list along with their excuses?

[Allant1981]

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Quote "Graeme Shinnie has said he can’t see himself getting back in the Scotland side after the national team’s nightmare in Astana"

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...nked-at-117th/

It really shows how far we've fallen as a footballing nation if we're down to selecting Graeme Shinnie, a 27 year old midfielder, for his first cap as an emergency left back. What's the point of that? Why select Lewis Stevenson at left back in the summer time, then don't consider him for this game.

Over the years, we've capped players who are nowhere near international class. In saying that, I'm including guys like Stevenson - good honest pro but never an international. And guys like McNulty - how can someone suddenly turn up at Hibs and play well in a few games against teams of a similar standard and then suddenly become an internationalist.

It wasnt his first cap and he has played a lot of club games at LB so it's not as if it's a new position for him, he just had a bad game and isn't a very good defender, I agree that Stevenson should have been in with a shout when Tierney and Robertson withdrew but he was never going to get the call up with the game so far away

Why shouldn't McNulty be in the squad? Surely you pick players who are playing well at the time and are in form? There's no point in picking players just because of who they are or what team they play for

[Smartie]

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Quote "Graeme Shinnie has said he can’t see himself getting back in the Scotland side after the national team’s nightmare in Astana"

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/...nked-at-117th/

It really shows how far we've fallen as a footballing nation if we're down to selecting Graeme Shinnie, a 27 year old midfielder, for his first cap as an emergency left back. What's the point of that? Why select Lewis Stevenson at left back in the summer time, then don't consider him for this game.

Over the years, we've capped players who are nowhere near international class. In saying that, I'm including guys like Stevenson - good honest pro but never an international. And guys like McNulty - how can someone suddenly turn up at Hibs and play well in a few games against teams of a similar standard and then suddenly become an internationalist.

Shinnie was woeful for all 3 goals, his defensive work wasn't good enough to be pub league level.

A "good honest pro" stands in the right place, know how to hold a line and doesn't let his man get goal side of him and get a jump on the centre half for the third goal.

A "good honest pro" provides little spark in the final third and we're picking the bones of a still unacceptable 0-0 draw rather than a 3-0 defeat.

[Bostonhibby]

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This is what happens when you an association settles for a succession of out-of-job, old-school managers, who can’t keep a job for more than 6 months at a time. Fair enough, they tried to get O’Neill but they immediately fell back into default mode as soon as he said no.

And the guys who run the show are a self appointing mix of amateur bowling club officials and lodge members who shouldn't be anywhere near the size of budget and business they are running.

No real change anytime soon as turkey's don't vote for Xmas.

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[Kato]

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Totally agree - in the last few years we've seen the Hun cheating for, at least, a decade, yet still in the Scottish game ??. We haven't qualified for the WC/EC since 1998 - but has anyone at the GFA been sacked or demoted for such appalling 'governance' ?. Have they *** !. I seem to remember something about them hiring Henry McLeish to 'Save our game' but, no big shock, nothing of note emerged from that. Our game/organisation is just a farce - it's sole purpose is to ensure that the 'Status Quo' of all the honours being handed to one or the other of the 'Old S*um' and for the blazers to fly business-class and stay in 5-star hotels at all the big games - big games that almost never involve Scotland !

Until the GFA are wiped out, our game is going nowhere except further downhill !

Exactly mate. Sacking manager after manager and blaming the players is missing the target.

An empty Hampden for the next year or so would send a message but nothing will change under the SFA.