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    Inappropriate Clothing

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-47558766

    Saw the above story on the bbc. Maybe I’m becoming more conservative (small c) as I get older and less in tune with the “yoof” of today, but I can’t distinguish that top from a bra. It looked an open and shut case to me in that it looked too much like underwear so was inappropriate IMO.

    Read some of the comments on her twitter that was linked in the article and was really surprised that I appeared to be in the minority that saw the “top” as inappropriate. Am I more out of touch than I realised?


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    As a father of a 15 year old girl, I have to bite my lip when I see what she wears when leaving the house, but I'd suggest in this case the girls top is;
    a) a size too small
    b) worn too low down

    If she wore a correct fitting top properly then I don't think there would have been any fuss.

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    She not at work so she can wear what she like as far as I’m concerned. Life’s too short to worry about other people’s clothes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Modfather View Post
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-47558766

    Saw the above story on the bbc. Maybe I’m becoming more conservative (small c) as I get older and less in tune with the “yoof” of today, but I can’t distinguish that top from a bra. It looked an open and shut case to me in that it looked too much like underwear so was inappropriate IMO.

    Read some of the comments on her twitter that was linked in the article and was really surprised that I appeared to be in the minority that saw the “top” as inappropriate. Am I more out of touch than I realised?
    I would struggle to be happy if my daughter was wearing it but generally, it isn’t far removed from swimwear. Blokes on stag flights or Med holidays wear shorts and sleeveless tops, women on hens or Med holidays wear crop tops, vest tops and plunging v-necks.

    I think times just move on and ‘appropriateness’ shifts. Though I’m never going to be comfortable with skinny-fit jeans or trousers, no socks, an obvious show of leg at the ankle and then plimsolls, which many a man in their twenties seems to think is suitable. And don’t get me started on grey fleece trackie bottoms on a grown man.

    Enough to make me undo the cuff links and harrumph into my sleeve, before retoppong the brandy.

    We go to Prague two or three times a year and the flights will have two, three, four and sometimes five stag and hen parties, or significant birthdays where it is all about getting hammered.

    The dress code goes out the window and the behaviour can be appalling. It is what it is though. Jet 2 seem to handle their flights better than EasyJet or Ryanair and when we can, we use Newcastle rather than Edinburgh. It is more peaceful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    As a father of a 15 year old girl, I have to bite my lip when I see what she wears when leaving the house, but I'd suggest in this case the girls top is;
    a) a size too small
    b) worn too low down

    If she wore a correct fitting top properly then I don't think there would have been any fuss.
    I’ve a 3 month old daughter. If I’m this prudish now god knows what I’ll be like in 15 years time with what is deemed as “fashion” then! 😬

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    Wonder who it “caused offence” too?


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    I'd understand if this was one of the middle Eastern airlines. Was there maybe one specific passenger of a religious persuasion who complained?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby View Post
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    I'd understand if this was one of the middle Eastern airlines. Was there maybe one specific passenger of a religious persuasion who complained?
    It’s people who show intolerance to others who I would throw of the flight but that is just me.


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    It’s people who show intolerance to others who I would throw of the flight but that is just me.


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    I heartily agree. The more I think about this the more I think this is exactly what happened

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    I've seen people with muscle shirts or not wearing shoes being asked to cover up or face being removed from aircraft for reasons of hygiene. Why should you have to sit in an enclosed space next to someone who can't cover their pits or their feet?

    I was sat near a human ashtray recently and there was no escaping his odour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Modfather View Post
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-47558766

    Saw the above story on the bbc. Maybe I’m becoming more conservative (small c) as I get older and less in tune with the “yoof” of today, but I can’t distinguish that top from a bra. It looked an open and shut case to me in that it looked too much like underwear so was inappropriate IMO.

    Read some of the comments on her twitter that was linked in the article and was really surprised that I appeared to be in the minority that saw the “top” as inappropriate. Am I more out of touch than I realised?
    It's a flight to Tenerife so seems fair game to me.

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    I've seen people with muscle shirts or not wearing shoes being asked to cover up or face being removed from aircraft for reasons of hygiene. Why should you have to sit in an enclosed space next to someone who can't cover their pits or their feet?

    I was sat near a human ashtray recently and there was no escaping his odour.
    The odour likely came from all the clothes he/she was wearing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    The odour likely came from all the clothes he/she was wearing.


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    He was oozing Au de Ashtray from his pores, I was hoping he would **** himself to cover up the stench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    It’s people who show intolerance to others who I would throw of the flight but that is just me.


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    I know what you mean, but I'm sure there is behaviour which you wouldn't tolerate.

    If that's the case, then what you mean is that it's the people who show intolerance to behaviour with which you are comfortable, that you'd throw off the flight.

    I don't mean to criticise you because I think it applies to pretty much everyone.

    If someone was behaving in a way that undermined, challenged or conflicted my, or your, values, I imagine that we'd object.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    I know what you mean, but I'm sure there is behaviour which you wouldn't tolerate.

    If that's the case, then what you mean is that it's the people who show intolerance to behaviour with which you are comfortable, that you'd throw off the flight.

    I don't mean to criticise you because I think it applies to pretty much everyone.

    If someone was behaving in a way that undermined, challenged or conflicted my, or your, values, I imagine that we'd object.
    Absolutely. I’m intolerant of any behaviour which is harmful to others. Lucky we have laws for that. If this girl wasn’t breaking the law then she should be allowed to wear what she likes.
    There are places in the world where she would have been breaking the law. Let’s not become like them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    It’s people who show intolerance to others who I would throw of the flight but that is just me.


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    How do we define intolerance though? Is thinking someone is wearing inappropriate clothing in certain circumstances/environment intolerance? I mean that as a general debating point rather than calling you out specifically Ozzy.

    We hear a lot about women being objectified/over sexualised, now we’re discussing intolerance when a woman is deemed to be inappropriately dressed (which she was IMO) and asked to put a jumper on for the duration of a flight. The middle ground seems to getting harder to find IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Modfather View Post
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    How do we define intolerance though? Is thinking someone is wearing inappropriate clothing in certain circumstances/environment intolerance? I mean that as a general debating point rather than calling you out specifically Ozzy.

    We hear a lot about women being objectified/over sexualised, now we’re discussing intolerance when a woman is deemed to be inappropriately dressed (which she was IMO) and asked to put a jumper on for the duration of a flight. The middle ground seems to getting harder to find IMO.
    I would say that you are perfectly to think that she is dressed inappropriately but when you want to interfere in what she is wearing or punish her for it then it’s an intolerance to far.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Modfather View Post
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    How do we define intolerance though? Is thinking someone is wearing inappropriate clothing in certain circumstances/environment intolerance? I mean that as a general debating point rather than calling you out specifically Ozzy.

    We hear a lot about women being objectified/over sexualised, now we’re discussing intolerance when a woman is deemed to be inappropriately dressed (which she was IMO) and asked to put a jumper on for the duration of a flight. The middle ground seems to getting harder to find IMO.
    I like naked women so have no objection to her showing a bit of meat. I however hate it in restaurants on holiday when people throw an armless shirt on over their swimsuit. Now I'm not saying she's smelly but if she can go arm and bellyless then so can any fat bloater (I'm posting as a fat bloater) that happens to have a ticket for the seat next to me for the next 9 hours.

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    Is recently showered skin less hygenic than a jacket that hasn't been washed in months (if ever)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    Is recently showered skin less hygenic than a jacket that hasn't been washed in months (if ever)?
    Many dangerous pathogens can't survive long on inanimate objects, but will happily survive and thrive on skin, even showered skin. The chances of transmission are increased considerably through contact to body fluids like blood and body waste products but also sweat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Many dangerous pathogens can't survive long on inanimate objects, but will happily survive and thrive on skin, even showered skin. The chances of transmission are increased considerably through contact to body fluids like blood and body waste products but also sweat.
    This is getting a bit silly now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    This is getting a bit silly now.
    On a forum that discussed the merits of crucifixion for people who chew with their mouth open, that's some statement.

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    Whooah there, too far. That isn't the way to speak about any woman, least of all somebody's mother.

    I have daughters and didn't get offended. I was making light of his comment. Lighten up.
    Unless of course you are a moderator then feel free to warn me officially. If not ignore me because what offends you is obviously different to what offends me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby View Post
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    I have daughters and didn't get offended. I was making light of his comment. Lighten up.
    Unless of course you are a moderator then feel free to warn me officially. If not ignore me because what offends you is obviously different to what offends me.
    Your post has been deleted with a reason given. Hopefully that means no warnings , official or otherwise, are required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Absolutely. I’m intolerant of any behaviour which is harmful to others. Lucky we have laws for that. If this girl wasn’t breaking the law then she should be allowed to wear what she likes.
    There are places in the world where she would have been breaking the law. Let’s not become like them.


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    Ultimately, the aircraft belongs to the airline so they can apply their own standards which are probably in the small print somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    On a forum that discussed the merits of crucifixion for people who chew with their mouth open, that's some statement.
    Where about? It does show a poor upbringing though. The punishment may be a tad harsh, not by much though.

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    Your post has been deleted with a reason given. Hopefully that means no warnings , official or otherwise, are required.
    I see it and understand. 🙏🏻👍🏻

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    Quote Originally Posted by pollution View Post
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    Ultimately, the aircraft belongs to the airline so they can apply their own standards which are probably in the small print somewhere.
    Exactly. And we pay enough for airline tickets not to have to sit next to a semi-nudist for hours and hours.

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