Clyde cheating

[Ozyhibby]

Can anyone tell me why Clyde forfeit the games instead of everyone ‘moving on’?
https://spfl.co.uk/news/disciplinary-hearing-clyde-fc



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[Ozyhibby]

Clyde got caught cheating.
https://spfl.co.uk/news/disciplinary-hearing-clyde-fc
Interestingly they were punished appropriately unlike other clubs. Rod will surely be asking for this to be overturned and for everyone to just ‘move on’ ?


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[wookie70]

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Clyde got caught cheating.
https://spfl.co.uk/news/disciplinary-hearing-clyde-fc
Interestingly they were punished appropriately unlike other clubs. Rod will surely be asking for this to be overturned and for everyone to just ‘move on’ ?


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Rules don't apply to establishment clubs like Hearts

[Sas_The_Hibby]

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Rules don't apply to establishment clubs like Hearts

Hearts owe the points to themselves so it doesn't matter. Or something

[Hibbyradge]

That's exactly what happened to hearts.

[Hibbyradge]

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Clyde got caught cheating.
https://spfl.co.uk/news/disciplinary-hearing-clyde-fc
Interestingly they were punished appropriately unlike other clubs. Rod will surely be asking for this to be overturned and for everyone to just ‘move on’ ?


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Why would RP ask for it to be overturned?

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Hearts got a 10k fine and docked 2 points?

Or is this just another free swipe at Rod?

[green day]

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Clyde got caught cheating.
https://spfl.co.uk/news/disciplinary-hearing-clyde-fc
Interestingly they were punished appropriately unlike other clubs. Rod will surely be asking for this to be overturned and for everyone to just ‘move on’ ?


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You are in danger of turning into a parody user with all this anti Rod stuff.

[BoomtownHibees]

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That's exactly what happened to hearts.

No it’s not, Hearts we’re deducted 2 points, meaning they still ‘gained’ a point when playing an illegible player. Clyde’s results were overturned to 0-3 defeats

[MWHIBBIES]

Pointless shot at Rod. Poor stuff. Clubs are always punished for this.

[Hibbyradge]

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No it’s not, Hearts we’re deducted 2 points, meaning they still ‘gained’ a point when playing an illegible player. Clyde’s results were overturned to 0-3 defeats

That's true. I'm not sure why it was only 2 points, but why the OP decided to have another snidey dig at RP remains a mystery.

[HIGHLANDLEITHER]

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Why would RP ask for it to be overturned?

Fairly clear he was being clinical of Rod’s position on similar matters.
The SFA/SPFL maintained a position of not ruling on deducting points from Rangers until a final decision was made on EBT’s. When it was confirmed that Rangers had used them illegally they said it was time to move on. Rod was a big part it that. This decision was all to do with a over up of the 5 way agreement and meant that docking points and titles from Rangers would expose the SFA and SPFL.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

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No it’s not, Hearts we’re deducted 2 points, meaning they still ‘gained’ a point when playing an illegible player. Clyde’s results were overturned to 0-3 defeats

Likelihood is because he played 160 mins over they 2 games so deemed to have contributed more than the young hearts lad that came on for 20 mins as they were already 2-0 up?

[wookie70]

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Likelihood is because he played 160 mins over they 2 games so deemed to have contributed more than the young hearts lad that came on for 20 mins as they were already 2-0 up?

They were deducted 3 points for each game as have every other team I can remember apart from Hearts. If they had been correctly deducted 3 points they were out the competition just like other teams have been in cup competitions.

[Ozyhibby]

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Likelihood is because he played 160 mins over they 2 games so deemed to have contributed more than the young hearts lad that came on for 20 mins as they were already 2-0 up?

Can you apply rules based on how well a player plays? If the rule is broken, then it’s broken.
Rangers broke the rules for 9 years in every league game they played and they were given a free pass by the rest of the clubs.


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[Hibbyradge]

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Fairly clear he was being clinical of Rod’s position on similar matters.
The SFA/SPFL maintained a position of not ruling on deducting points from Rangers until a final decision was made on EBT’s. When it was confirmed that Rangers had used them illegally they said it was time to move on. Rod was a big part it that. This decision was all to do with a over up of the 5 way agreement and meant that docking points and titles from Rangers would expose the SFA and SPFL.

That's not even close to being a valid comparison.

[BoomtownHibees]

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Likelihood is because he played 160 mins over they 2 games so deemed to have contributed more than the young hearts lad that came on for 20 mins as they were already 2-0 up?

The rule should be just that, a rule. It can’t be adjusted dependant on how long the player played for or because his team were winning at at the time. As far as I remember, all other teams that have played an illegible player has been “rewarded” with a 3-0 defeat

[Hibbyradge]

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The rule should be just that, a rule. It can’t be adjusted dependant on how long the player played for or because his team were winning at at the time. As far as I remember, all other teams that have played an illegible player has been “rewarded” with a 3-0 defeat

I agree. It was a 2 point deduction to keep hearts in with a chance of qualification.

I'd bet it doesn't happen again.

[Ozyhibby]

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The rule should be just that, a rule. It can’t be adjusted dependant on how long the player played for or because his team were winning at at the time. As far as I remember, all other teams that have played an illegible player has been “rewarded” with a 3-0 defeat

Except Rangers.


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[JimBHibees]

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That's true. I'm not sure why it was only 2 points, but why the OP decided to have another snidey dig at RP remains a mystery.

We all know why it was only 2 points to allow them the chance of staying in the competition which subsequently meant they benefited from a 50k crowd at murrayfield in the semi final.

[Hibbyradge]

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Except Rangers.


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Eh?

[ballengeich]

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Can anyone tell me why Clyde forfeit the games instead of everyone ‘moving on’?
https://spfl.co.uk/news/disciplinary-hearing-clyde-fc



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A fair question, when there's a previous example of a club fielding virtually an entire team of ineligible players for several seasons.

The SPFL's potentially bringing future difficulty to itself by awarding the matches to the opponents. If the games had been in a cup it would be ok, but if Albion Rovers escape from bottom place at Berwick Rangers expense because of this there will be considerable turmoil. It would have been better to have the games replayed with Clyde getting a points deduction but allowed to keep any points from the replayed games.

[calumhibee1]

Did Hearts not do this and get a points deduction rather than give up the game?

[PatHead]

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Did Hearts not do this and get a points deduction rather than give up the game?

Hearts got docked 2 points and a fine. Think it was Peterhead. Should have been 0-3 defeat and fine. I could never understand the logic in that decision.

[Michael]

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Hearts got docked 2 points and a fine. Think it was Peterhead. Should have been 0-3 defeat and fine. I could never understand the logic in that decision.

Logic is simple. Hearts could still qualify.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Horrible club filled with rape apologists and apologists for racism, too. Hope they rot.

[Smartie]

What are the circumstances surrounding the registration issues?

Was it deliberate, or a harmless(ish) paperwork error?

[The 90+2]

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Logic is simple. Hearts could still qualify.

And their next match to qualify was on tv.

Clyde doing very well recently. Good news Edinburgh city.

[bigwheel]

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What are the circumstances surrounding the registration issues?

Was it deliberate, or a harmless(ish) paperwork error?

Apparently he had been out on loan, and when he came back they hadn't sorted out the administration of it properly


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[HIGHLANDLEITHER]

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That's not even close to being a valid comparison.

Really? SFA rules state that players remuneration has to be declared in full. Rangers were hiding payments made through EBT’s and lied twice to the SFA when asked by them if they had any side letters promising additional payments .The side letters were discover by the Metropolitan Police when investigating the Boumsong transfer.
Neither then or since have the SFA followed their own rules and deducted points from Rangers .