Rugby fans v Football fans

[Hibbyradge]

I saw that there was a public debate recently about how football fans are treated differently than rugby fans. Irvine Welsh was involved.

Is anyone still in any doubt as to why?

[SChibs]

It's easier to be well behaved at the rugby because it is boring and unexciting. Its not got the same passion as football which brings out behaviours that people wouldnt normally display

[Golden Bear]

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It's easier to be well behaved at the rugby because it is boring and unexciting. Its not got the same passion as football which brings out behaviours that people wouldnt normally display

Erm, I think you should watch Scotland v Wales this afternoon, I respectfully suggest that you might change your opinion thereafter.

[J-C]

Rugby fans don't have this tribal attitude associated to football, you're brought up at school to respect the referees by calling them sir as most refs at school rugby matches were also teachers. It's also a more physical game which supporters accept, there's none of the stupid play acting which footballers do all the time. Rugby fans drink together before and after games they even sit beside each other during games, football fans get drunk and want to fight the other fans, it's almost like a war instead of football match.

[lyonhibs]

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It's easier to be well behaved at the rugby because it is boring and unexciting. Its not got the same passion as football which brings out behaviours that people wouldnt normally display

What an absolute crock o'***** In-stadium behaviour of rugby fans is simply, in the main, far better than that of football fans.

[MWHIBBIES]

Can't really call something in which fans clap both teams a real sport. It's miles away from the passion of football. They turn up 3 times a year in kilts and silly hats for a party. It's more like a wedding than a sporting event.

[makaveli1875]

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Can't really call something in which fans clap both teams a real sport. It's miles away from the passion of football. They turn up 3 times a year in kilts and silly hats for a party. It's more like a wedding than a sporting event.

[Hibbyradge]

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Can't really call something in which fans clap both teams a real sport. It's miles away from the passion of football. They turn up 3 times a year in kilts and silly hats for a party. It's more like a wedding than a sporting event.

A bit like the Tartan Army then.

You're forgetting all the weekly league games, of course.

[Golden Bear]

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Can't really call something in which fans clap both teams a real sport. It's miles away from the passion of football. They turn up 3 times a year in kilts and silly hats for a party. It's more like a wedding than a sporting event.

?

Well it ain't going to work.

[MWHIBBIES]

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A bit like the Tartan Army then.

You're forgetting all the weekly league games, of course.

Exactly like the tartan army.

Oh yes, tell me more about those big crowds at weekly rugby games

[K.Marx]

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Exactly like the tartan army.

Oh yes, tell me more about those big crowds at weekly rugby games

😂

[Yorkshire HFC]

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Can't really call something in which fans clap both teams a real sport. It's miles away from the passion of football. They turn up 3 times a year in kilts and silly hats for a party. It's more like a wedding than a sporting event.

As Pelligrini said "If you know only football, then you know nothing"

[Carheenlea]

There will be more obnoxious behaviour, drunkenness and public nuisance in Edinburgh this afternoon and tonight than there was last night.

[Phil MaGlass]

Rugby is a great day oot, meet up wae mates, few pints, off tae game and never the fear of some arse behind you throwing coins, bottles o buckie and spilling alot of **** and bile out their mouths towards players. Anyone who thinks rugby is boring really doesnt have a clue about rugby.Christ you can even have a beer without the fear of someone wanting a square go wae everyone around them. Not have to deal wae bigots etc etc etc...

[Sioux]

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Can't really call something in which fans clap both teams a real sport. It's miles away from the passion of football. They turn up 3 times a year in kilts and silly hats for a party. It's more like a wedding than a sporting event.

Passion? Get a grip. A sport is where competitors compete against each other.

The sport is not the problem. Its spectators that are, as far as football is concerned.

Throwing bottles, coins and seats, fighting in the streets, is not being passionate. It's low life gutter behaviour.

[J-C]

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There will be more obnoxious behaviour, drunkenness and public nuisance in Edinburgh this afternoon and tonight than there was last night.

But less aggression, public threats, pissing in doorways, ripping up stadium seats, sectarian songs and a crowd of supporters who will be drinking with each other after a game instead of kicking **** out of each other.

[Hibbyradge]

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Exactly like the tartan army.

Oh yes, tell me more about those big crowds at weekly rugby games

Tell me more about those big crowds in 3 and a half of senior football games.

Out of interest, Edinburgh had 38000 against Toulouse and 12500 v Glasgow.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Tell me more about those big crowds in 3 and a half of senior football games.

Out of interest, Edinburgh had 38000 against Toulouse and 12500 v Glasgow.

So Edinburgh got a big crowd twice? What's their average over the last 5 years?

[K.Marx]

Nothing worse than rugby fans masquerading as football fans and taking the moral high ground. You like rugby, great. Go chat about it on a rugby forum (if they exist).

[Hibbyradge]

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There will be more obnoxious behaviour, drunkenness and public nuisance in Edinburgh this afternoon and tonight than there was last night.

Of course there will be. There'll be nearly 4 times as many people at the game today.

However, there will be a lot less violence, abuse and sectarianism.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Passion? Get a grip. A sport is where competitors compete against each other.

The sport is not the problem. Its spectators that are, as far as football is concerned.

Throwing bottles, coins and seats, fighting in the streets, is not being passionate. It's low life gutter behaviour.

I didn't say that I approved of those things at all. It's just ridiculous to compare a big wedding reception to a football match.

[Hibbyradge]

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Nothing worse than rugby fans masquerading as football fans and taking the moral high ground. You like rugby, great. Go chat about it on a rugby forum (if they exist).

Stupid remark.

[Carheenlea]

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But less aggression, public threats, pissing in doorways, ripping up stadium seats, sectarian songs and a crowd of supporters who will be drinking with each other after a game instead of kicking **** out of each other.

It’s different, granted, but the boozy rugby crowd brings with it plenty of nuisance value but policed in a very different way to the football fan.

[K.Marx]

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Stupid remark.

👍🏻

[Golden Bear]

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Tell me more about those big crowds in 3 and a half of senior football games.

Out of interest, Edinburgh had 38000 against Toulouse and 12500 v Glasgow.

I'll add to that by saying Saracens v Harlequins regularly attract over 80,000 for a normal club fixture when it is staged at Wembley.


And its virtually impossible to get a ticket for a Glasgow Warriors home fixture at Scotstoun , "SOLD OUT" for every game.

[SquashedFrogg]

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Nothing worse than rugby fans masquerading as football fans and taking the moral high ground. You like rugby, great. Go chat about it on a rugby forum (if they exist).

I think you've just proved there are worse things 😶

[Hibbyradge]

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So Edinburgh got a big crowd twice? What's their average over the last 5 years?

What is Cowdenbeath's average home crowd? Or East Fife. Need I go on?

I have no idea as to the relevance of crowd size anyway.

Football fans, regardless of numbers, are treated differently from rugby fans because of their behaviour.

[Sioux]

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It’s different, granted, but the boozy rugby crowd brings with it plenty of nuisance value but policed in a very different way to the football fan.

I'd rather be subject to nuisance than violence. Nuisance can be found every Friday and Saturday in pubs and clubs all over the city.

[SquashedFrogg]

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It's easier to be well behaved at the rugby because it is boring and unexciting. Its not got the same passion as football which brings out behaviours that people wouldnt normally display

Sincerely hope this is tongue-in-cheek btw.

[Hibbyradge]

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I didn't say that I approved of those things at all. It's just ridiculous to compare a big wedding reception to a football match.

I wonder why Irvine did exactly that.