Bigger allocation for the Old Firm

[MWHIBBIES]

Our own fault. Sensible business decision because our own fans have stopped bothering.

[The 90+2]

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We wont finish in the bottom 6 though

In your own opinion. The board have a responsibility to take everything into consideration though and I would imagine for them top 6 will now be an added bonus.

[GreenCastle]

If true this is poor from Hibs.

Last time there were a few threads saying how much better it was at both old firm games with less away fans both in the local area and less noise in the stadium.

Have the board given up on Top 6 and just want to make a little ££ ?

Stuff this like makes us look weak and we should be making more efforts to entice our own fans back rather then annoying them by doing what suits the west coast bigots.

[Jock O]

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I honestly don't think it could have got much higher.

It's hard to build continuity when your a selling a club, that's the reality .

Which teams in Scotland aren't selling clubs currently?

[Beefster]

Only right that we try to keep The Rangers sweet now that Celtc aren't speaking to us.

[Billy Whizz]

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If true this is poor from Hibs.

Last time there were a few threads saying how much better it was at both old firm games with less away fans both in the local area and less noise in the stadium.

Have the board given up on Top 6 and just want to make a little ££ ?

Stuff this like makes us look weak and we should be making more efforts to entice our own fans back rather then annoying them by doing what suits the west coast bigots.

Celtic we have to give due to Scottish Cup rules, but if we can’t sell the south for Hibs fans, we’re as well taking the revenue in my opinion
If we can sell the south to Hibs fans, now that’s a different story

[HibeeHibernian4]

Very disappointed with it. Our record against the Old Firm since cutting them down to half a stand speaks volumes.

Full stand:
Hibs 2-2 Celtic
Hibs 1-2 Rangers
Hibs 2-1 Celtic

Half stand:
Hibs 5-5 Rangers
Hibs 2-0 Celtic
Hibs 0-0 Rangers

[Steven79]

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Celtic we have to give due to Scottish Cup rules, but if we can’t sell the south for Hibs fans, we’re as well taking the revenue in my opinion
If we can sell the south to Hibs fans, now that’s a different story

Exactly! It's all very well having principles but that does not pay the players wages and as much as I would rather give them half the stand if we aren't filling the other half then it's just throwing money away....

[Sir David Gray]

From a business point of view it makes sense, from a sporting point of view it is extremely disappointing.

[Springbank]

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Very disappointed with it. Our record against the Old Firm since cutting them down to half a stand speaks volumes.

Full stand:
Hibs 2-2 Celtic
Hibs 1-2 Rangers

Half stand:
Hibs 2-1 Celtic
Hibs 5-5 Rangers
Hibs 2-0 Celtic
Hibs 0-0 Rangers

i'd have more sympathy for this view if folk had turned up in big numbers v Raith etc

Then you'd be saying to the board "but our fans aren't fickle, they turn up through thick and thin in equally large numbers"

But too many of our fans are part time

[The Spaceman]

Shame, both supports are very vocal when they have a whole stand, but with half a stand you can hardly hear them which is a big advantage to us. Disappointing and not looking forward to hearing the party songs in full flow in the near future

[Steven79]

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Very disappointed with it. Our record against the Old Firm since cutting them down to half a stand speaks volumes.

Full stand:
Hibs 2-2 Celtic
Hibs 1-2 Rangers

Half stand:
Hibs 2-1 Celtic
Hibs 5-5 Rangers
Hibs 2-0 Celtic
Hibs 0-0 Rangers

Rather than blaming the board blame all the fans that aren't turning up as last season we would have filled our half easily.

[Diclonius]

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Rather than blaming the board blame all the fans that aren't turning up as last season we would have filled our half easily.

We sold tickets in the South against Hamilton. We'd easily take a large number v Celtic and Rangers.

Ridiculous from the board.

[Frazerbob]

Disappointed by this. I’ve always argued for a reduced allocation, even with the financial hit. It’s about giving the players the best chance of winning on the day and letting the uglies know that we don’t simply bend over to them as they think we should.

[Steven79]

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We sold tickets in the South against Hamilton. We'd easily take a large number v Celtic and Rangers.

Ridiculous from the board.

The tickets have been on sale since the 28th of January (at least) and plenty are still left for sale with just over two weeks left before the game.

It would be throwing money away opening up half the south to home fans when it's likely at the very least the top tier would remain empty.

Me I would give them even less than half the stand but Hibs fans need to buy tickets in return and they simply have not done it.

[matty_f]

Do we know how much more of an allocation we've given them or has it been confirmed anywhere yet?

[Blaster]

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We sold tickets in the South against Hamilton. We'd easily take a large number v Celtic and Rangers.

Ridiculous from the board.

We’ll be lucky to sell out our own 3 stands

[HibeeHibernian4]

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i'd have more sympathy for this view if folk had turned up in big numbers v Raith etc

Then you'd be saying to the board "but our fans aren't fickle, they turn up through thick and thin in equally large numbers"

But too many of our fans are part time

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Rather than blaming the board blame all the fans that aren't turning up as last season we would have filled our half easily.

I don't think I blamed the board in my post. By saying I was disappointed with 'it', I was referring to the fact they're getting an increase in tickets.

If you ever have the misfortune of reading over the numerous loyalty point debates we've had on this forum, you'll see pretty quickly that I have no problem at all in bemoaning fans who only seem to be able to find Easter Road/the Roseburn when the weather is fair.

[Lago]

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Our own fault. Sensible business decision because our own fans have stopped bothering.

Correct, that's the reality óf Scottish football dominated by 2 clubs.

[B.H.F.C]

What would be most disappointing, IMO, is if Hibs just do it without making any mention of it. That seems to be the way of it these days when there is anything negative to communicate.

If they came out and gave a justification or acknowledged it then fair enough.

[Steven79]

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We’ll be lucky to sell out our own 3 stands

I would be very surprised if they sell-out.

We still out-number them and it's our job to drown them out and help our team over the line.

[Brightside]

I'm sure the Fans Reps would have told us before the Rangers fans were told?

[Blaster]

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I would be very surprised if they sell-out.

We still out-number them and it's our job to down them out and help our team over the line.

Absolutely mate. I was delighted when we reduced their allocation previously as it meant there was an extra 500-1000 hibs fans attending the games

However it’s looks to me very unlikely that any of our fans are going to miss out so sensible decision.

[SquashedFrogg]

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We sold tickets in the South against Hamilton. We'd easily take a large number v Celtic and Rangers.

Ridiculous from the board.

Did we sell our full allocation in the South for the Celtic game in September?

[NAE NOOKIE]

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Back to the old crawling up to the OF, catering for all their whims, with our tails between our legs.

The Huns will be loving this.

Well, maybe the Huns will indeed be loving this. But at the end of the day who is to blame for that?

It was the fans who clamoured for Sevco and Celtic to get a reduced allocation backed up by increased attendances at Easter Road. For months now the crowds have been dropping off with many season ticket holders just not turning up to support the team and that was happening months before the Neil Lennon saga, so that isn't a factor IMO. It is also a fact that we barely sold half of our south stand allocation for the last 3 visits from the ugly sisters and we still had empty seats in the 3 'home' stands.

As I recall when we met Sevco in the Championship play off it was the first time we experimented with cutting their allocation. We had a team well capable of overturning the 2 goal deficit from the first leg and we proved that by battering the buggers for 90 minutes, even if we did fall short in the end. Hibs reward for listening to the fans and cutting the Sevco allocation that day to as few as we could was a turn out from our fans of less than 14,000 even though it was a huge and winnable game for the club.

Instead of us battering the club over this perhaps it would be better to ask Leeann Dempster to stand in the middle of Leith Walk with a megaphone and shout to the 140,000 who turned up to watch the cup parade …. C'MON, WHERE ARE YOU, WHERE ARE YOU !!! ….. because if we are going to cut away allocations its up to the fans to make it viable and worthwhile … as things stand we aren't doing that.

We can talk about morals all we like, but at the end of the day the people running Hibs have a duty to maximise the clubs income, and as a board they would be abdicating that responsibility by turning away paying fans, even odious pricks like Sevco have following them. We have set a precedent in the last couple of seasons and there's nothing to stop us cutting their allocation in the future.

There's been a lot of complaining lately from some quarters about the club not listening to the fans. Well this is a situation where the club did listen to the fans and their reward for it as far as I can see is the fans failing to hold up our end of the bargain.

I'll end by saying that as part of the 12 or so thousand who did turn up for that play off second leg I've never been more proud to be part of a Hibs support, the reaction to the team which began 5 minutes from the end made the hairs stand up on the back of your neck …. I'd settle for that same 12,000 being our home support at every game.

[blackpoolhibs]

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I'm sure the Fans Reps would have told us before the Rangers fans were told?

Thats a belter.

[The 90+2]

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Thats a belter.

[Gloucester Hibs]

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Very disappointed with it. Our record against the Old Firm since cutting them down to half a stand speaks volumes.

Full stand:
Hibs 2-2 Celtic
Hibs 1-2 Rangers

Half stand:
Hibs 2-1 Celtic
Hibs 5-5 Rangers
Hibs 2-0 Celtic
Hibs 0-0 Rangers

Totally agree with the point you're making, but I think for the 2-1 victory over Celtic last season we gave the smellies the entire away end?

[Steven79]

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Totally agree with the point you're making, but I think for the 2-1 victory over Celtic last season we gave the smellies the entire away end?

Yeah they had the full end as it was too short notice while Rangers only got half.

[Frazerbob]

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I'm sure the Fans Reps would have told us before the Rangers fans were told?

Haha good one!