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15-02-2019 08:45 PM #91
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15-02-2019 08:46 PM #92This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
PS. Your opening post was a disgrace.
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15-02-2019 08:52 PM #93This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You seem very sure, no absolutely nailed on, that this had zero cost to us, I hope you are correct, but have a gut feeling that this has cost us money. It may or may not come out in the wash in future we will see.
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15-02-2019 09:16 PM #94This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Amen to that brother 👍
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15-02-2019 09:19 PM #95This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I smell *****
When will you be lobbing another maroon grenade in?
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15-02-2019 09:23 PM #96
Did it cost us a lot of money? Did it cost us nothing? Personally, I think the truth might be somewhere in the middle and I don’t believe for one minute that their contract was paid up in full. Fake news.
Anyway, who cares? These sort of private arrangements happen all the time at every club but it’s rare to get people squealing and calling for “transparency” (where have we heard that before?).
Anything will do as a stick to beat the board/Farmer/Petrie with for some people. It’s getting boring.
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15-02-2019 09:39 PM #97This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Is it a guess or some unconfirmed rumour
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15-02-2019 09:59 PM #98This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteMature, sensible signature required for responsible position. Good prospects for the right candidate. Apply within.
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15-02-2019 10:03 PM #99This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I posted to say that I agreed with what LD said about the speculation and abuse … then SOP said he agreed with most of my post, apart from bit where I agreed with LD about outrageous speculation and abuse and then he goes on to construct a sentence which no matter how you read it looks like he is agreeing with my agreement with LD's opinion on the speculation and abuse.
Colour me confused
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15-02-2019 10:49 PM #100This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If Lennon was innocent and did nothing wrong I don't believe he walks away quietly. It does him more harm than it does Hibs. Hibs could offer him 12 months salary but the lack of a definitive reason for the suspension and him leaving allows speculation and rumours to linger on. Was it bullying of young players, was it homophobic comments to senior staff etc. Etc. Even receiving more than the 12 months salary comes at a cost to his reputation and I can't see him selling that.
If he was blameless he was entitled to a payout so why would he take that and stay quiet risking his reputation?
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15-02-2019 11:01 PM #101This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-02-2019 11:04 PM #102This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-02-2019 11:16 PM #103This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If he has done something wrong he would have simply been sackedLast edited by Heedersnvolleys; 15-02-2019 at 11:19 PM.
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16-02-2019 07:27 AM #104This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We need to let it drop and wait for the Only an Excuse sketch to deliver the facts
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16-02-2019 07:38 AM #105This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-02-2019 08:02 AM #106
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With a severance package for Neil Lennon subject to a legally binding gagging clause why would anyone give any credence to what's scrawled in the sun?
Personally I think he may have got something but maybe not. I'm not getting my knickers in a twist either way. (I'm not suggesting you are either)Space to let
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16-02-2019 08:23 AM #107
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Hope the hills clear your head. Maybe check out confidential agreements when you get a signal.
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16-02-2019 08:28 AM #108
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16-02-2019 08:40 AM #109
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We were not having a good season, NL did not seem himself to me and I think overall it was time for us to go our separate ways, although the timing with the transfer window wasn’t ideal.
In my opinion, any agreement reached would have taken compromise on both sides so I reckon both NL and GP will have received some cash but not the entire contracts, hence the word “compromise”.
Regardless, neither NL or the club are dragging it out, both moving on and speaking positively about each other and it’s time for fans to do the same. I really enjoyed most of Lennons time with us and wish him nothing but the best but now it’s all about what Heckingbottom can add and I’m quietly confident he will do well.
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16-02-2019 08:55 AM #110This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It started with some dressing room unrest at full time at Fir Park and ended two days later when Dempster tried to sort out the team meeting when things got a bit heated.
Lennon apparently didn't appreciate this involvement as he saw it as his job as manager to sort out any problems within the squad. There was then an altercation between Lennon and Dempster and shortly afterwards the suspension was reported in the media.
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16-02-2019 08:55 AM #111
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16-02-2019 08:57 AM #112This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-02-2019 09:00 AM #113
The only people dragging all this out is so called fans who care more about Lennon than the club. If the club sacked him it would all be public an Lennon would struggle to get another job right away. It'll be a small pay off and told to say nowt or the press will hear the real reasons, keeps his reputation intact, you could tell by her interview she was no huge fan of Lennon.
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16-02-2019 09:01 AM #114
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16-02-2019 09:15 AM #117
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"Despite widespread speculation, the club confirm that neither Neil, nor Garry has been guilty of any misconduct or wrongdoing, and no disciplinary process has been commenced."
Seems quite clear to me, that if they're not guilty of any misconduct or wrongdoing, they're entitled to be paid.
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16-02-2019 09:20 AM #118
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16-02-2019 09:46 AM #119This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Let's be clear. If there has been no formal disciplinary process then by definition they cannot be found guilty of anything. That doesn't mean they, or more accurately Lennon, didn't do anything; it means that there was no disciplinary meeting to explore the incident(s) and hear evidence.
It may seem quite clear to you. It doesn't mean that's what happened. Discussions took place between both parties. It was agreed that the employment relationship had broken down and would be terminated without moving to formal disciplinary action. This is reasonably common in employment. Discussions would then take place on a Without Prejudice basis on the various variables including what statement would be made in public and the level of money which would be paid if any. Both parties are seeking to protect their position in terms of reputation and so there is a negotiated settlement. To go to a potential gross misconduct dismissal airs the dirty linen in public and would I suggest reflect more badly on Lennon than the club. This is speculation I admit; we simply don't know but given the wording of the statement it's a reasonable working assumption. Therefore in simple terms he walks without full settlement of the pay for the full duration of the contract on the grounds that the club don't move to disciplinary action. He is therefore 'not guilty' because he hasn't been held to account.
Your initial assertion was that the statement said he was 'blameless'. It doesn't say that or anything like that. At all.Last edited by Lester B; 16-02-2019 at 09:49 AM. Reason: Typo!
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