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    Heckingbottom signings

    Im sure we will all be wondering what sort of players he will look to recruit to the club and how we will set up/play.

    Going by his history it’s seems to be a running theme of young players excelling at lower levels and ready for the step up, a lot of whom made the step up with ease and were a success or gained another move off the back of it.

    An article here about his signings https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.l...m-14597357.amp

    Looking forward to see who he brings in as it is those type of players that I always find so we’ll at hibs and something we have moved away from in the past year or so with recruiting older players or squad fillers.

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    I wonder if he'll address the fact that we only have three senior strikers before the end of this season.

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    I wonder if he'll address the fact that we only have three senior strikers before the end of this season.
    Doubt it at this stage.
    But by the end of March he will be cooking up plans for the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diclonius View Post
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    I wonder if he'll address the fact that we only have three senior strikers before the end of this season.
    Only way he could do that is to sign someone without a club and run the risk that they lack match fitness....

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    Im sure we will all be wondering what sort of players he will look to recruit to the club and how we will set up/play.

    Going by his history it’s seems to be a running theme of young players excelling at lower levels and ready for the step up, a lot of whom made the step up with ease and were a success or gained another move off the back of it.

    An article here about his signings https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.l...m-14597357.amp

    Looking forward to see who he brings in as it is those type of players that I always find so we’ll at hibs and something we have moved away from in the past year or so with recruiting older players or squad fillers.
    Brilliant. So the minimum he's spent is about £500k in transfer fees, how do we compete with that?

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    Brilliant. So the minimum he's spent is about £500k in transfer fees, how do we compete with that?
    Which in the Chanpionship/England is not a lot of money at all.

    He has the right idea and type of player that he wants, I think he will be able to attract good young players here.

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    Which in the Chanpionship/England is not a lot of money at all.

    He has the right idea and type of player that he wants, I think he will be able to attract good young players here.
    I think Dexter was being sarcastic. Half a million was a minimum. He spent millions on players read the google article.

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    Which in the Chanpionship/England is not a lot of money at all.

    He has the right idea and type of player that he wants, I think he will be able to attract good young players here.
    Might have already been said, but I'm quite sure he'll already know what sort of cash he has to play with and that would have formed his decision to take the job. Lennon would have been the same at Bolton, who had much more cash to spend than anyone outside the Glasgow two.

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    Still a back question mark over who the signings at Easter Road. Will he have a free hand?

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    Still a back question mark over who the signings at Easter Road. Will he have a free hand?
    He might need one if we are going for somebody like Messi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterStJock View Post
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    Brilliant. So the minimum he's spent is about £500k in transfer fees, how do we compete with that?
    From summer 2016 to summer 2017 he brought in 8 players to Barnsley for a combined £4m. None of them are still at the club and only 1 was sold for a profit.

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    From summer 2016 to summer 2017 he brought in 8 players to Barnsley for a combined £4m. None of them are still at the club and only 1 was sold for a profit.
    That is a worrying stat. However, only things that matter now are what happens and who he brings in at Hibs

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGruber View Post
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    That is a worrying stat. However, only things that matter now are what happens and who he brings in at Hibs
    It could be but not necessarily

    Hibs suffered from this for years in the post Mowbray era

    Not all the players we signed in that time were bad, but with a change of manager often comes a clearing of the decks

    There is little value achieved in a fire sale necessary for you to raise some cash to bring in "your" players

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    From summer 2016 to summer 2017 he brought in 8 players to Barnsley for a combined £4m. None of them are still at the club and only 1 was sold for a profit.
    That's absolutely nothing in a league such as the Championship, especially for £4m. Not too concerned about that.


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    From summer 2016 to summer 2017 he brought in 8 players to Barnsley for a combined £4m. None of them are still at the club and only 1 was sold for a profit.
    Liam Fontaine
    Dylan McGeouch
    Conrad Logan
    Fraser Fyvie
    Malonga

    None of them were sold at a profit, none are still here.

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    Heckingbottom does not know most of our players.
    He will look at them all with fresh eyes and without sentiment.
    In the summer he will want his own players and to do that he will have to get players out.

    I suspect all the players whose contracts are up in the summer will be moved on and the 6 loans will also leave.
    That means fans favourites Gray, McGregor, Bartley as well as Nelom probably go because it is easy not to renew contract than move contracted players on.

    That will leave us with 16 players this summer if contracted players can't be moved on.
    2 Goalkeepers - Marciano, Dubrowski
    5 Defenders - Whittaker, Stevenson, Mackie, Porteous, Hanlon
    7 Midfielders - Milligan, Allan, Slivka, Mallan, Horgan, F. Murray, Boyle
    2 Strikers - Kamberi, Shaw

    The new manager will then have spaces and wages to bring in 6-8 first team players of his choice in the summer.

    What do you reckon?
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    How long will it take for the first "underwhelmed" comment when he signs somebody?


    Maybe we should place bets on it



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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    Heckingbottom does not know most of our players.
    He will look at them all with fresh eyes and without sentiment.
    In the summer he will want his own players and to do that he will have to get players out.

    I suspect all the players whose contracts are up in the summer will be moved on and the 6 loans will also leave.
    That means fans favourites Gray, McGregor, Bartley as well as Nelom probably go because it is easy not to renew contract than move contracted players on.

    That will leave us with 16 players this summer if contracted players can't be moved on.
    2 Goalkeepers - Marciano, Dubrowski
    5 Defenders - Whittaker, Stevenson, Mackie, Porteous, Hanlon
    7 Midfielders - Milligan, Allan, Slivka, Mallan, Horgan, F. Murray, Boyle
    2 Strikers - Kamberi, Shaw

    The new manager will then have spaces and wages to bring in 6-8 first team players of his choice in the summer.

    What do you reckon?
    I wouldn't be surprised to see Gray and McGregor sign extentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    From summer 2016 to summer 2017 he brought in 8 players to Barnsley for a combined £4m. None of them are still at the club and only 1 was sold for a profit.

    That's chicken feed for the Championship.

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    In an interview I’m sure he mentioned he doesn’t like to sign loan players who have never been out on loan before

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    He signed an Englishman called Angus McDonald? F*** off - English? I'm not having that........

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    He signed an Englishman called Angus McDonald? F*** off - English? I'm not having that........
    I'm sure he was being touted for a Scotland call up when he was Barnsley captain so he must have some Scottish connection

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    He signed an Englishman called Angus McDonald? F*** off - English? I'm not having that........
    I seem to recall a promising young lad at Newcastle United who did rather well and went on to play for England called Malcolm McDonald … what's in a name eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE View Post
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    I seem to recall a promising young lad at Newcastle United who did rather well and went on to play for England called Malcolm McDonald … what's in a name eh?
    I remember Jimmy Greaves calling BS on the old Hearts keeper Henry Smith being Scottish too 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    I remember Jimmy Greaves calling BS on the old Hearts keeper Henry Smith being Scottish too
    There are quite a few observers who called BS on Smith being a goalkeeper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    I remember Jimmy Greaves calling BS on the old Hearts keeper Henry Smith being Scottish too 😂
    Smith is the most common surname in Scotland, believe it or not.

    I can remember when Partick Thistle had Issac English and Gerry Britton playing for them and Hibs had Brian Welsh. Dunfermline had Hamish French. They were all Scottish.

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    How many did a good job for the club and then just moved on when their contracts ended?

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    Has he come in as a "Manager" or a "Head Coach"? Given statements about a good fit with the structure I assume the latter and that whilst he will have input into who we pursue as signings it is likely the vast majority of candidates will be those identified through George Craigs department at the club and he'll be given some sort of veto over who comes in, though not necessarily who leaves.

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    Has he come in as a "Manager" or a "Head Coach"? Given statements about a good fit with the structure I assume the latter and that whilst he will have input into who we pursue as signings it is likely the vast majority of candidates will be those identified through George Craigs department at the club and he'll be given some sort of veto over who comes in, though not necessarily who leaves.
    His job title is Head Coach but he will decide player in and outs.
    He will tell George's team which player or what type of player he wants.
    They will do the leg work and then come back to the manager with information or a list of players who fit the criteria.
    Once he has decided who he wants he will go to Leanne and she will say yes or no based on the case he makes and the cost.
    He will know his budget and will know how many players he wants and will then have to wheel and deal to get close to the team he wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    His job title is Head Coach but he will decide player in and outs.
    He will tell George's team which player or what type of player he wants.
    They will do the leg work and then come back to the manager with information or a list of players who fit the criteria.
    Once he has decided who he wants he will go to Leanne and she will say yes or no based on the case he makes and the cost.
    He will know his budget and will know how many players he wants and will then have to wheel and deal to get close to the team he wants.
    That’s how I reckon it works although I reckon it would be Craig approaching the Board for approval on any transfers.

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