Anyone But Celtic Film -A Film by Paul Larkin

[Carheenlea]

Watched this tonight and one of the funniest things I`ve watched for a long time . Hard to accept that it isn`t a spoof.
What did surprise me though was that Celtic allowed this tin foil hat merchant to film his ramblings within Celtic Park. An absolute embarrassment.
An entertaining hour though..

[NAE NOOKIE]

Celtic fans don't do irony eh? Faux incredulity that most of the refs from Lanarkshire follow either Celtic or Rangers when and I quote "there's at least 4 other clubs they could follow" the inference being that its mostly Rangers, and asking …. why is that? Aye, why do most folk in Lanarkshire follow Celtic or Rangers …. why is that? …. A question every non OF fan in Scotland knows the answer to ya glory hunting roasters

[Mixu62]

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Celtic fans don't do irony eh? Faux incredulity that most of the refs from Lanarkshire follow either Celtic or Rangers when and I quote "there's at least 4 other clubs they could follow" the inference being that its mostly Rangers, and asking …. why is that? Aye, why do most folk in Lanarkshire follow Celtic or Rangers …. why is that? …. A question every non OF fan in Scotland knows the answer to ya glory hunting roasters

They usually reply with some garbage about family ties to Glasgow or some such nonsense. "My great-grandad's dug once ran on the pitch".

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Im sure the boy that made the film comes from craigmillar too!

[we are hibs]

Someone told me Celtic allowed them to have a film premiere inside Celtic park. Surely a piss take?

[Winston Ingram]

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Im sure the boy that made the film comes from craigmillar too!

He’s from Muirhouse. I’ve met him a few times. He’s written loads of Celtic books. I’ve met him a few times and he definitely falls into the conspiracy camp.

Couldn’t guarantee he believes all the stuff he writes but tbf to him, the Old Firm conspiracy market is massive and with plenty of knuckledraggers willing to part with their cash

[NAE NOOKIE]

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He’s from Muirhouse. I’ve met him a few times. He’s written loads of Celtic books. I’ve met him a few times and he definitely falls into the conspiracy camp.

Couldn’t guarantee he believes all the stuff he writes but tbf to him, the Old Firm conspiracy market is massive and with plenty of knuckledraggers willing to part with their cash

And that's a solid basis for the next film he could make. I mean, if he wants to see fairness in Scottish football when it comes to refereeing decisions and what refs are appointed to what games, then surely this paragon of sportsmanship, this advocate of a level playing field would surely also like to see addressed the way the Ugly sisters leech supporters from the catchment areas of other Scottish clubs, making them considerably stronger than their rivals, a strength based on an artificial fan base way out of proportion to the geographical area they can actually lay claim to as a source of support. A leeching of support which not only makes them stronger, but by definition also weakens their rivals …. a glory hunter gained by the Ugly sisters duopoly is a local fan lost to their home town team / teams.

I would love him to apply his forensic investigative talents ( which as far as I can see from that film even stretch to insider knowledge about what goes on behind the bedroom doors of Scottish football league employees ) to an investigation of the postcode breakdown belonging to the season ticket and registered supporters databases held by Celtic and Rangers …… Now wouldn't that be an interesting wee film.

[Diclonius]

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And that's a solid basis for the next film he could make. I mean, if he wants to see fairness in Scottish football when it comes to refereeing decisions and what refs are appointed to what games, then surely this paragon of sportsmanship, this advocate of a level playing field would surely also like to see addressed the way the Ugly sisters leech supporters from the catchment areas of other Scottish clubs, making them considerably stronger than their rivals, a strength based on an artificial fan base way out of proportion to the geographical area they can actually lay claim to as a source of support. A leeching of support which not only makes them stronger, but by definition also weakens their rivals …. a glory hunter gained by the Ugly sisters duopoly is a local fan lost to their home town team / teams.

I would love him to apply his forensic investigative talents ( which as far as I can see from that film even stretch to insider knowledge about what goes on behind the bedroom doors of Scottish football league employees ) to an investigation of the postcode breakdown belonging to the season ticket and registered supporters databases held by Celtic and Rangers …… Now wouldn't that be an interesting wee film.

See, if you try and put that to any Celtic fan (leeching support, and generally players and resources from other clubs) then they do a complete about face and start the whole "we're a big club, if you don't like it deal with it, capitalism etc etc" spiel that is totally at odds with their downtrodden poor-me Rangers are the big bad bullies line.

If you introduced some sort of fair play transfer/wage cap initiative in Scottish football that guaranteed Celtic and Rangers an equal transfer pot, but also decreased the gap between them and the other clubs (thereby no longer guaranteeing them a two horse race), Celtic fans would be first to cry foul and claim it's not fair because they haven't had a chance to achieve 15 in a row/the quintuple treble and whatever other ***** we should all lie down for "for the greater good".

[NAE NOOKIE]

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See, if you try and put that to any Celtic fan (leeching support, and generally players and resources from other clubs) then they do a complete about face and start the whole "we're a big club, if you don't like it deal with it, capitalism etc etc" spiel that is totally at odds with their downtrodden poor-me Rangers are the big bad bullies line.

If you introduced some sort of fair play transfer/wage cap initiative in Scottish football that guaranteed Celtic and Rangers an equal transfer pot, but also decreased the gap between them and the other clubs (thereby no longer guaranteeing them a two horse race), Celtic fans would be first to cry foul and claim it's not fair because they haven't had a chance to achieve 15 in a row/the quintuple treble and whatever other ***** we should all lie down for "for the greater good".

Absolutely

[AndyM_1875]

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He’s from Muirhouse. I’ve met him a few times. He’s written loads of Celtic books. I’ve met him a few times and he definitely falls into the conspiracy camp.

Couldn’t guarantee he believes all the stuff he writes but tbf to him, the Old Firm conspiracy market is massive and with plenty of knuckledraggers willing to part with their cash

He's an utter hysteric. Some of the stuff he comes out with warrants a padded cell.

His stuff about referees being out to get Celtic is baseless, moon howling nonsense. If there was anything in them how come Celtic have won more Scottish Cups than any other side, are going for 8 titles in a row and a treble treble. How come Scott Brown was not sent off against Hibs recently for a challenge that was both reckless and dangerous? I could go on.

If there is a conspiracy against Celtic then the plotters are making a roaring erse of it.

[LancsHibs]

Sounds a pile of crap think I’ll give it a swerve

[Nutmegged]

Watched it and I think there is a serious point made about referees and the Lanarkshire referees association however dressing it up as everypne against Celtic makes a mockery of it, if it was simply about highlighting the clear Rangers bias throughout the decades it'd get far more traction but as a non Celtic fan its hard to believe everyone is out to get them, if its a Celtic vs Rangers issue I'd fancy Rangers to get favourable decisions but his lack of perspective kills it, the way he feels against Rangers is the way many 'diddy teams' feel against Celtic.

The way the referees are groomed is an important issue that deserves to be highlighted but he went about it all wrong.

[hibsbollah]

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Watched it and I think there is a serious point made about referees and the Lanarkshire referees association however dressing it up as everypne against Celtic makes a mockery of it, if it was simply about highlighting the clear Rangers bias throughout the decades it'd get far more traction but as a non Celtic fan its hard to believe everyone is out to get them, if its a Celtic vs Rangers issue I'd fancy Rangers to get favourable decisions but his lack of perspective kills it, the way he feels against Rangers is the way many 'diddy teams' feel against Celtic.

The way the referees are groomed is an important issue that deserves to be highlighted but he went about it all wrong.

We have been saying the same about referees and Rangers for years. Just because it's a Celtc production doesn't mean we can ignore what it's saying. The case against the Lanarkshire refereeing cabal is fairly well established.

[Diclonius]

One half of the establishment tells us the establishment is biased toward the other half of the establishment. Yawn.

Tell me, why do Celtic fans not say a word about Craig Thomson's performance in the Scottish Cup final? Because if it's not a biased toward Rangers or against Celtic, they don't give a ****.

[CMurdoch]

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Watched it and I think there is a serious point made about referees and the Lanarkshire referees association however dressing it up as everypne against Celtic makes a mockery of it, if it was simply about highlighting the clear Rangers bias throughout the decades it'd get far more traction but as a non Celtic fan its hard to believe everyone is out to get them, if its a Celtic vs Rangers issue I'd fancy Rangers to get favourable decisions but his lack of perspective kills it, the way he feels against Rangers is the way many 'diddy teams' feel against Celtic.

The way the referees are groomed is an important issue that deserves to be highlighted but he went about it all wrong.

It could have been a good little documentary but it was as if someone was sabotaging it every couple of minutes by making ridiculous comments and salacious statements irrelevant to the serious issues being discussed. Tom Boyd must have been massively embarrassed when he saw the finished product and IMO they took advantage of an old man, John Fallon. As for the ex referee whose identity was being kept secret. He just appeared to be an invented person with a script filling in the blanks.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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It could have been a good little documentary but it was as if someone was sabotaging it every couple of minutes by making ridiculous comments and salacious statements irrelevant to the serious issues being discussed. Tom Boyd must have been massively embarrassed when he saw the finished product and IMO they took advantage of an old man, John Fallon.

I have to say that there were a number of claims in the film which were made against people who are conveniently no longer with us. I don't know if the lady a number of allegations were made against which basically accused her of nothing short of prostitution is still alive, but if she is I would hope for the film makers sake that he has solid proof to back up the allegations he made against her …. because if not he could be looking at a very nasty lawsuit.

Not to mention that because Celtic allowed him to narrate the film using Celtic park as a platform they appear to be supportive of the allegations he made against her, I cant believe they didn't get a private viewing of the film before it was made available to the public and that being the case they could well be open to legal action as well. Its one thing making statements like 'it was common knowledge' or saying that everybody within the game at the time was speculating about who 'the latest jockey was' ….. Its quite another thing to provide hard evidence in court of the claims he made about Maureen Cooper.

Its one thing investigating what you see as corruption within sports governing body, its quite another to destroy a woman's reputation based on ( from what I can see ) nothing more than hearsay, rumour and innuendo.

As another poster said …. This would all look so much better if the claim was an allegation of bias and match fixing against referees and the SPFL /SFA in order to favour Rangers, but it isn't, what it is is a ramble about an anti Celtic agenda perpetuated by the masons and Orange lodge who have infiltrated the SPFL and its predecessors and the SFA in order to carry it out.

When you look at Celtic's bulging trophy cabinet can I be the first to say that so far as a conspiracy to disadvantage them is concerned this masonic / Orange order plot has been about as successful as Tibet's efforts at world football domination …. If that's a conspiracy to ensure Celtic fail I wish to hell the Mason's and Orange order would turn their attention to Hibs.

League titles 49
Scottish cups 38
League cups 18

[CMurdoch]

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I have to say that there were a number of claims in the film which were made against people who are conveniently no longer with us. I don't know if the lady a number of allegations were made against which basically accused her of nothing short of prostitution is still alive, but if she is I would hope for the film makers sake that he has solid proof to back up the allegations he made against her …. because if not he could be looking at a very nasty lawsuit.

Not to mention that because Celtic allowed him to narrate the film using Celtic park as a platform they appear to be supportive of the allegations he made against her, I cant believe they didn't get a private viewing of the film before it was made available to the public and that being the case they could well be open to legal action as well. Its one thing making statements like 'it was common knowledge' or saying that everybody within the game at the time was speculating about who 'the latest jockey was' ….. Its quite another thing to provide hard evidence in court of the claims he made about Maureen Cooper.

Its one thing investigating what you see as corruption within sports governing body, its quite another to destroy a woman's reputation based on ( from what I can see ) nothing more than hearsay, rumour and innuendo.

As another poster said …. This would all look so much better if the claim was an allegation of bias and match fixing against referees and the SPFL /SFA in order to favour Rangers, but it isn't, what it is is a ramble about an anti Celtic agenda perpetuated by the masons and Orange lodge who have infiltrated the SPFL and its predecessors and the SFA in order to carry it out.

When you look at Celtic's bulging trophy cabinet can I be the first to say that so far as a conspiracy to disadvantage them is concerned this masonic / Orange order plot has been about as successful as Tibet's efforts at world football domination …. If that's a conspiracy to ensure Celtic fail I wish to hell the Mason's and Orange order would turn their attention to Hibs.

League titles 49
Scottish cups 38
League cups 18

Ignoring the legal issues, Maureen Cooper was irrelevant to the case the film was trying to make.
They said she pumped a lot of the referees and was the person who allocated the games with the jocky getting allocated the better games.
Gid story but nothing to do with a film alleging Celtic have been disadvantaged by corrupt masonic and orange influence within the referee fraternity.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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Ignoring the legal issues, Maureen Cooper was irrelevant to the case the film was trying to make.
They said she pumped a lot of the referees and was the person who allocated the games with the jocky getting allocated the better games.
Gid story but nothing to do with a film alleging Celtic have been disadvantaged by corrupt masonic and orange influence within the referee fraternity.

I totally agree with you mate, which makes it all the more bizarre that that section was included in the film at all. If it was chucked in as some sort of comedy moment to lighten things up I highly doubt Ms Cooper or her family will be able to see the funny side.

[hibstag]

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It could have been a good little documentary but it was as if someone was sabotaging it every couple of minutes by making ridiculous comments and salacious statements irrelevant to the serious issues being discussed. Tom Boyd must have been massively embarrassed when he saw the finished product and IMO they took advantage of an old man, John Fallon. As for the ex referee whose identity was being kept secret. He just appeared to be an invented person with a script filling in the blanks.

This is how i saw it , it would be interesting to see how keen he was in backing up some of his claims if the retired referees (or indeed the families of the refs mentioned in the case of those now passed on ) chose to pursue this through legal channels.

ironically the Aberdeen Celtic captains handshake shown looked at a suspicious angle and was clearly involving knuckle touching. the film maker also stated that the masons did not exclude on the grounds of religion and that Catholics had self excluded themselves from the masonic movement by papal decree, then spent the film alluding to Catholics being excluded on grounds of religion by the masons.

[pacorosssco]

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Watched it and I think there is a serious point made about referees and the Lanarkshire referees association however dressing it up as everypne against Celtic makes a mockery of it, if it was simply about highlighting the clear Rangers bias throughout the decades it'd get far more traction but as a non Celtic fan its hard to believe everyone is out to get them, if its a Celtic vs Rangers issue I'd fancy Rangers to get favourable decisions but his lack of perspective kills it, the way he feels against Rangers is the way many 'diddy teams' feel against Celtic.

The way the referees are groomed is an important issue that deserves to be highlighted but he went about it all wrong.

I agree there are very serious issues about integrity of referees. It's only the Celtic slant on it that lets it down. He also raised very strong evidence of wrong doing and integrity of SFA in the asterik years. Our game is bent up here and any one who points it out is ridiculed. The Rangers play off leg at ibrox was televised yet Hibs players couldn't take corners for being hit with objects thrown from crowd. What happened. Nothing. Was it in refs match report. No. Would that level of behaviour go unpunished or unreported in a televised EPL game. NO. We deserve better. The quality of our referees is also shocking. Every week they are a talking point

[givescotlandfreedom]

The conspiracy wasn't working very well last week at Parkhead last week. Or afterwords when only Johnson got done. Or Brown's assault on Slivka at ER earlier this season. Or when we got TWO fouls in an first game at Parkhead. And that's only against Hibs this season.