Willie McKay and Emiliano Salah

[hibsbollah]

An excellent article here by Daniel Taylor. Hibs fans with memories will recall Willie McKay and the kind of person he is.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ames-hard-face

[chrisski33]

Sala u mean 😀

[Joe6-2]

Agents! 😤😡

[21.05.2016]

All very tasteless to be squabbling about money at this moment in time. A young man has tragically lost his life and hasn't even been laid to rest yet. Just shows how much greed can take over some people. That McKay sounds like an absolute slime ball of a character. He certainly stirred a lot of **** up with hibs when the OF were sniffing around Brown and Thompson in 2007, not interested a jot in what was best for their young careers but just out to milk as much cash out of them for himself as he could.

[jacomo]

“The reliably noxious McKay.”

Sums it up about right.

As I said on another thread, Nantes don’t seem to be in the wrong here. Football is business and the deal was done. They are due £15m.

It is folk like McKay and Cardiff who have questions to answer about leaking details to the media. What does that achieve other than prolonging the grief for people who knew Sala?

[I'm Spartacus]

Awkward and this should all be done in private IMO.

A business transaction has taken place.
A plane has crashed and 2 people have died.
The business transaction is unaffected IMO.

Insurance will cover it all - the agents will also have some insurance to cover their financial feeding frenzy.

[CMurdoch]

The transfer fee has been the elephant in the room since the plane disappeared and it was just a question of time before the grubby issue of moneys due broke free.

[Here’s Lucy!]

[QUOTE=chrisski33;5705009]Sala u mean 😀[/QUOTE

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The transfer fee has been the elephant in the room since the plane disappeared and it was just a question of time before the grubby issue of moneys due broke free.

Monies, you mean?

[Topographic Hibby]

Sorry to talk about money and business when two people have died, but....

Back in the day when I worked in Financial Services, if a business (eg Cardiff City) had a valuable and costly asset (eg Emiliano Salah), you would insure that asset/person against loss (eg his death, sorry again for the cold. heartless business terms being used here).

Wonder if Cardiff have tried to save a few quid on insurance premiums or been a bit slow in sorting out a policy. IIRC, was called Keyman Insurance or similar? Think a few clubs and insurance agents might be scurrying around and sorting out policies for players that are hopping off and on private planes etc.

[green day]

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Insurance will cover it all - the agents will also have some insurance to cover their financial feeding frenzy.

Apparently, Cardiff's insurance is limited to £16m. Not enough to cover transfer fee, the agreed salary, agents fees etc.

[The 90+2]

Where’s the pilot? Thinking more and more something dodgy has went on there

[Tobias Funke]

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Where’s the pilot? Thinking more and more something dodgy has went on there

Like what? Then why are they crowdfunding to recover his body?

[NAE NOOKIE]

When it comes to agents football is very much reaping the whirlwind. For over a century it utterly took the piss out of the players, paying them peanuts compared to the income through crowds and latterly TV and sponsorship they generated.

It was totally understandable that when some savvy folk realised there was money to be made by representing the players and putting a stop to them being utterly exploited by clubs the charlatans and spivs would take the situation and turn it into a greed fest.

Once again football's own greed will prevent it taking the action it should. If they were serious about stopping these leeches sucking the game dry they would bring in a cap on transfer fees and insist that the player's cut pays out to his agent and that the percentage the agent gets from that cut is also capped. But the truth is clubs are so busy cutting each others throats to sign the best players they will continue to let the tail wag the dog.

It may bee unseemly to see Nantes asking for their money so quickly ….. but the truth is they were due it on the day it was scheduled to be paid and Cardiff's apparent search for a loophole or other avenue which will prevent them from having to pay it is far more reprehensible if you ask me.

[silverhibee]

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Like what? Then why are they crowdfunding to recover his body?

Pretty heartless that they never recovered the body of the pilot the same time they got the players body.

Will the plane ever be recovered ?

[Smartie]

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Pretty heartless that they never recovered the body of the pilot the same time they got the players body.

Will the plane ever be recovered ?

I think they would have recovered it if it had been there to be recovered.

The pilot may have ejected, the plane may have broken up but there's no way they would leave the pilot's body in there if there was a chance of recovering it.

I don't think the plane will be recovered, pretty sure I heard that it would be too difficult but they still hope to be able to get enough info to work out the cause of the crash.



The thing I didn't like about the whole business was how quickly they called off the official search and how soon the crowdfunded search actually managed to find the wreckage. Relatives were close to having to spend their whole lives wondering what happened to the plane. A little bit of crowdfunding and at least some of them will have answers.

[Rocky]

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I think they would have recovered it if it had been there to be recovered.

The pilot may have ejected, the plane may have broken up but there's no way they would leave the pilot's body in there if there was a chance of recovering it.

I don't think the plane will be recovered, pretty sure I heard that it would be too difficult but they still hope to be able to get enough info to work out the cause of the crash.



The thing I didn't like about the whole business was how quickly they called off the official search and how soon the crowdfunded search actually managed to find the wreckage. Relatives were close to having to spend their whole lives wondering what happened to the plane. A little bit of crowdfunding and at least some of them will have answers.

Is that part about the official search right? I'm sure the private search and official search worked together and split the search area between them.

[Scouse Hibee]

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Pretty heartless that they never recovered the body of the pilot the same time they got the players body.

Will the plane ever be recovered ?

The pilot’s body wasn’t there to be recovered, only one body in the wreckage.

In terms of possible recovery, the plane isn’t that deep to make it too difficult, just need the right vessel with appropriate lifting equipment on site according to the guy that lead the successful search.

[Itsnoteasy]

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The pilot’s body wasn’t there to be recovered, only one body in the wreckage.

In terms of possible recovery, the plane isn’t that deep to make it too difficult, just need the right vessel with appropriate lifting equipment on site according to the guy that lead the successful search.

Who would be liable to cover the costs of lifting the plane. Also what would they achieve in doing this. Don't think planes that size have a black box.

[SMAXXA]

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Pretty heartless that they never recovered the body of the pilot the same time they got the players body.

Will the plane ever be recovered ?

I thought the plane had already been recovered?

[Callum_62]

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I thought the plane had already been recovered?

Found- but its still on the sea floor

Im assuming the pilot was ejected on impact - i haven’t seen any pics on the front of the plane so in assuming it was broken up

The pilots body, unfortunately may never be recovered


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[Lago]

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An excellent article here by Daniel Taylor. Hibs fans with memories will recall Willie McKay and the kind of person he is.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ames-hard-face

This could get very messy

[BullsCloseHibs]

Indeed. McKay wants his money. He could see difficulties ahead. Why wouldn't he? After all he is an utter sccumbag. I hope he receives absolutely nothing. I recall his son telling Sala that the flight to Cardiff wouldn't cost him anything. That flight would have cost at least £2500 alone. Tells you everything you need to know about Willie McKays football agency. Utter cockroaches.

[brog]

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Indeed. McKay wants his money. He could see difficulties ahead. Why wouldn't he? After all he is an utter sccumbag. I hope he receives absolutely nothing. I recall his son telling Sala that the flight to Cardiff wouldn't cost him anything. That flight would have cost at least £2500 alone. Tells you everything you need to know about Willie McKays football agency. Utter cockroaches.

The emails between Sala & McKay's son were horrible. Sala was then texting everyone saying he was flying by private jet to Cardiff. Instead he ends up in a tiny single engined prop plane flown by a part time pilot with no commercial licence. Poor young man, he must have been consumed with doubts but got on that plane.

[PatHead]

Hope they get relegated again next season.

[jonty]

Is it the original pilot that's been arrested? Who then passed the job off onto the guy who eventually flew it.

[PatHead]

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Is it the original pilot that's been arrested? Who then passed the job off onto the guy who eventually flew it.

Apparently so.

[MyJo]

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Indeed. McKay wants his money. He could see difficulties ahead. Why wouldn't he? After all he is an utter sccumbag. I hope he receives absolutely nothing. I recall his son telling Sala that the flight to Cardiff wouldn't cost him anything. That flight would have cost at least £2500 alone. Tells you everything you need to know about Willie McKays football agency. Utter cockroaches.

From what I understand the type of licence the pilot had did not allow him to get paid for his services so he has either volunteered to do the flight for free as a favour to McKay or he has been given a backhander from McKay to do it.

If Cardiff's insurance only just covers the actual transfer fee and they are going to have to stump up their own money to pay McKay's fees when he looks to be culpable for Sala being on that plane in the first place they will probably do everything they can to avoid that.

Its unlikely that there is an issue with paying the money to Nantes and more to do with waiting for an investigation to be done that allows Cardiff to with-hold payment from McKay.

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it was McKay himself that leaked this to the press in order to put pressure on Cardiff to make the payment to Nantes so that he gets his cut as soon as possible before any investigations are carried out.

[BullsCloseHibs]

No doubt McKays company isn't UK registered either... No doubt be an offshore company, off the register. Greed, greed, greed.

[CropleyWasGod]

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No doubt McKays company isn't UK registered either... No doubt be an offshore company, off the register. Greed, greed, greed.

He lives in Monaco.

[BullsCloseHibs]

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He lives in Monaco.

There you go then!

And the tax there compared to here is..?