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    Can the fans rep let us know whatever happened to the NHS taking over a massive part of the North Stand please? It caused massive uproar and now it seems like it was just an excuse to shut down stuff.


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    Why does the club not just pay to have it done???
    They will be paying for it but you need to prioritise as even a simple paint job can cost a lot of money. The group are there to put forward ideas so that it's not just the Club making unilateral decisions.

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    They will be paying for it but you need to prioritise as even a simple paint job can cost a lot of money. The group are there to put forward ideas so that it's not just the Club making unilateral decisions.
    I thought we had a stadium manager - does the fabric and maintenance of the ground not fall within their remit?

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    The Working Together Group have already had a walk round to identify key areas where we can do some improvements. We know that it's a huge job and not all areas can be done at once. Anyone interested in coming along to the next meeting on 28th Feb would be made most welcome and we'd love to hear your ideas. Meetings are usually well advertised on Hibs Facebook page and on this Forum.
    Any truth the top level of the FF is a shambles, can't remember what the top suite is but was told it is a mess, seemingly needs more than a lick of paint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaMaria View Post
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    They will be paying for it but you need to prioritise as even a simple paint job can cost a lot of money. The group are there to put forward ideas so that it's not just the Club making unilateral decisions.
    Nothing wrong with some fans input for sure but maybe I’m missing something but why does the club need help in assessing basic maintenance?

    I get that everything costs money but maintaining the basic fabric of the stadium would seem like a standard cost that needs to be factored into the running of the club.

    Last time I was on the stadium tour a year or so ago it was pretty obvious that the place needed some serious investment. And if the club is struggling to raise the funds then they need to get creative in doing so.

    As others have alluded to there has been many pronouncements about utilising the stadium better when in reality that appears to have turned into using it less and ignoring its upkeep.

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    Would selling naming rights to the ground pay for it?

    Or how about the owners/custodians of the club cough up for it themselves?

    We're not putting the hat round to pay for maintenance of the ground, surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty Leither View Post
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    Would selling naming rights to the ground pay for it?

    Or how about the owners/custodians of the club cough up for it themselves?

    We're not putting the hat round to pay for maintenance of the ground, surely?
    Have you been asked for any money for it?

    I've not seen anything from the club asking game to chip in for stadium maintenance unless I've missed something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty Leither View Post
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    Would selling naming rights to the ground pay for it?

    Or how about the owners/custodians of the club cough up for it themselves?

    We're not putting the hat round to pay for maintenance of the ground, surely?
    Scotty

    There will be budgets in place.

    It will be up to the stadium manager to prioritise.

    Why should stf pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarlingtonHibee View Post
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    Scotty

    There will be budgets in place.

    It will be up to the stadium manager to prioritise.

    Why should stf pay for it.
    Because he owns the stadium??

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    Because he owns the stadium??
    Hibs own the stadium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Because he owns the stadium??
    The club is a business.

    It is operated on a break even basis that includes maintenance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    Hibs own the stadium.
    Thanks. I thought it was an asset of Farmer before. Apologies. Not that it matters one bit. The stadium should be looked after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarlingtonHibee View Post
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    The club is a business.

    It is operated on a break even basis that includes maintenance.
    Get the stands sorted then for the people that actually go there week in week out otherwise they will stop going.

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    Absolute rubbish.

    Your telling me that a bit of paintwork is going to stop people going.

    Think you need to take a few deep breaths before you post.

    Hibs is a multi million pound business, with a very professional board.

    I am very happy with the club.

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    Interesting comments on the maintenance cost of the stadium.

    It is just ONE cost which many don’t consider when they yell about ‘where has all the money gone’

    The sole expense the club has is not just in players’ wages and associated transfer and signing on fees, but in relatively mundane regular but necessary items.

    Ground sharing has never really got off the ground in the UK, but eventually some thought about community owned stadiums rented to clubs for match days, will be on the agenda.

    Maybe not in the next 10 years or so, but it will come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forza Fred View Post
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    Interesting comments on the maintenance cost of the stadium.

    It is just ONE cost which many don’t consider when they yell about ‘where has all the money gone’

    The sole expense the club has is not just in players’ wages and associated transfer and signing on fees, but in relatively mundane regular but necessary items.

    Ground sharing has never really got off the ground in the UK, but eventually some thought about community owned stadiums rented to clubs for match days, will be on the agenda.

    Maybe not in the next 10 years or so, but it will come.
    I can't see it.

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    Behind the goals is a great facility that we aren't making the most out of. Get it right and the club could be making a tidy wee sum out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    I remain continually baffled that Hibs cannot get its pre-match and catering offer right.

    Good news for hostelries and businesses along Easter Road I suppose.
    Why they don't just ask Eden Mill to run the bar I don't know? Excellent opportunity to promote their own products and Hibs and the fans hopefully get a better service as its not a no name catering company where it makes no difference how you perform as the fans blame the club not you (I should add that as its the clubs facility even though they don't run it I think should shoulder the blame for letting it continue to be mismanaged). If Eden Mill didn't want it someone like Stewart Brewing surely would?

    As for the catering, again surely there's better local providers, I liked the idea someone floated where you just let lots of food trucks and small companies wothh a variety run out the area and not give it to a bog standard company serving below par pies, pizza and chips. The Apprentice came to Edinburgh years ago and proved there was a market for something better and those folks are idiots.

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    I know this is about the bar but it's a joke that you couldn't get a ticket for the FF today on the day as well. Ticket pod shut and ticket office refused to sell them too. Bit of a farce, even more so with the ticket site being humped for weeks.
    This pisses me off as well. When its not a season ticket game I like to sit in the FF upper, but the pod has been closed for both Scottish cup ties this season. If I can be arsed to drive 40 miles and pay £20 to go to games over half our ST holders gave a miss I don't think its too much to ask that I can buy a ticket for the bit of the stadium I like on the day.

    I also agree with other posters about the way the stadium is beginning to look a bit run down … I took the tour last year and I was surprised at how spartan the suites in the west stand looked … few pictures, fading paint job and carpets that looked like they could have done with replacing a good while before I was there.

    IMO behind the goals has been a bit of a disaster. It was supposed to be getting closed because the NHS deal was more profitable, now its half open and then isn't open at all for some games …. and the NHS deal seems to have gone by the wayside, Hibs haven't mentioned it for months and months. I cant say I was impressed with Hibs lukewarm attitude to BTG … IMO it was a good way to connect with fans who cant afford hospitality packages and the like and for that reason profit shouldn't have been the main concern for keeping it open.

    Watching the highlights of todays match on Sportscene was it my imagination or are there a number of broken seats in the south stand as well that have been that way for some time?

    I always think a stadium which begins to look neglected is a sign of a club which is beginning to lose focus. I don't think Hibs are quite at that stage yet, but it is a bit concerning that folk are beginning to notice.

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    Absolute rubbish.

    Your telling me that a bit of paintwork is going to stop people going.

    Think you need to take a few deep breaths before you post.

    Hibs is a multi million pound business, with a very professional board.

    I am very happy with the club.
    Did you go today m8? Nah thought not. Pipe down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forza Fred View Post
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    Interesting comments on the maintenance cost of the stadium.

    It is just ONE cost which many don’t consider when they yell about ‘where has all the money gone’

    The sole expense the club has is not just in players’ wages and associated transfer and signing on fees, but in relatively mundane regular but necessary items.

    Ground sharing has never really got off the ground in the UK, but eventually some thought about community owned stadiums rented to clubs for match days, will be on the agenda.

    Maybe not in the next 10 years or so, but it will come.
    Very true mate.

    Football's not all about squad budgets. There's literally hundreds of other aspects to running a football club that cost money. Budgets have to be strictly adhered to.

    Even speculating to accumulate rarely works in the long term, you only have to look at what happened to Rangers and Hearts to name just two clubs who thought they could spend zillions without consequence. Celtic and our own club also in the past came very close to nearly shutting the doors.

    Its not what most supporters want to hear but the club really needs the supporters to turn out in numbers every home game and give their support both financially and vocally no matter if we're going through a sticky spell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    I can't see it.
    That’s fair enough, but when you think about it, the maintenance costs for an asset that, given most big clubs have their own seperate trading complexes, only gets used once every couple of weeks, it doesn’t make a lot of sense business wise.

    Not just talking about Hibs.......but Iguess a simple example is say Hibs hire buses to transport them to matches on match days....it wouldn’t make a lot of economic sense to buy a bus for this purpose, and incur the costs that go with it, eg employment of drivers, maintenance, registration, insurance etc etc, for an asset that is used sparingly


    I get the ‘tradition’ thing and am not advocating for such a change, but I do see it as inevitable,
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    It’s already the norm in bits of Europe, and here in Oz it’s also in place.

    Eventually the costs of individual owned stadiums will prove prohibitive I fear.

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    If we are talking about a true community stadium and this whole ethos being fundamental to the values and direction of the club we support, surly this is a 2 way street. I have watched Sunderland a club that’s not had their troubles to seek in recent years really pull together and the recent example of fan volunteers helping to refit seats in the stadium is just brilliant. If there are things that need to be done such as maintenance like a lick of paint why shouldn’t supporters offer to chip and and help. Why should we be of the opinion of the club should pay for everything and get it all done now, which btw I do get it will officially be their responsibility to do so but we arnt a multi million pound profit generating club with cash to burn, surely anything to help save money to use elsewhere on the football side would be an avenue worth exploring.

    Its our club and everyone should take pride in it and help wherever possibly to do so. Am no saying we should all bring our own bevie and serve ourselves behind the goals though 😂.

    Just another way of thinking appreciate will be challenged but I do have an overwhelming sense and myself included that we as fans would rally around if the club was on it’s arse much like what hearts fans have done but we take things for granted where there possibly more we could do, not just hibs fans btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMAXXA View Post
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    If we are talking about a true community stadium and this whole ethos being fundamental to the values and direction of the club we support, surly this is a 2 way street. I have watched Sunderland a club that’s not had their troubles to seek in recent years really pull together and the recent example of fan volunteers helping to refit seats in the stadium is just brilliant. If there are things that need to be done such as maintenance like a lick of paint why shouldn’t supporters offer to chip and and help. Why should we be of the opinion of the club should pay for everything and get it all done now, which btw I do get it will officially be their responsibility to do so but we arnt a multi million pound profit generating club with cash to burn, surely anything to help save money to use elsewhere on the football side would be an avenue worth exploring.

    Its our club and everyone should take pride in it and help wherever possibly to do so. Am no saying we should all bring our own bevie and serve ourselves behind the goals though 😂.

    Just another way of thinking appreciate will be challenged but I do have an overwhelming sense and myself included that we as fans would rally around if the club was on it’s arse much like what hearts fans have done but we take things for granted where there possibly more we could do, not just hibs fans btw.
    Our fans have painted the stadium steps to your point above. Fans have in previous seasons contacted lapsed ST holders to feedback to the club / get folks to re-sign.

    LWT and now Working together has some examples of the fans rallying round to do more for the club.
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    Who has the contract for behind the goals? If its Hibs we are loosing a fortune. If it’s contracted out we will be making the same money from rent but surely the poor image it projects onto the club may breach some part of the contract.

    They should seriously consider renewing the contract on a profit share basis, busier it is the more Hibs make.

    Does anyone know if/when contacts are up and how you apply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forza Fred View Post
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    That’s fair enough, but when you think about it, the maintenance costs for an asset that, given most big clubs have their own seperate trading complexes, only gets used once every couple of weeks, it doesn’t make a lot of sense business wise.

    Not just talking about Hibs.......but Iguess a simple example is say Hibs hire buses to transport them to matches on match days....it wouldn’t make a lot of economic sense to buy a bus for this purpose, and incur the costs that go with it, eg employment of drivers, maintenance, registration, insurance etc etc, for an asset that is used sparingly


    I get the ‘tradition’ thing and am not advocating for such a change, but I do see it as inevitable,
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    It’s already the norm in bits of Europe, and here in Oz it’s also in place.

    Eventually the costs of individual owned stadiums will prove prohibitive I fear.
    Oh I get the logic, but Scottish football is so parochial and small minded that we've got two teams that have seoerate stadiums 100 metres apart.

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    Did you go today m8? Nah thought not. Pipe down.
    No I wasn't at the game, it's an expensive day for me and my son, but we get to as many as we can.


    You are the biggest drama queen on the forum.

    You know absolutely nothing about the workings of Hibs.

    Every response is to try and slag fellow hibs fans off.

    Only post when you have FACTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarlingtonHibee View Post
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    No I wasn't at the game, it's an expensive day for me and my son, but we get to as many as we can.


    You are the biggest drama queen on the forum.

    You know absolutely nothing about the workings of Hibs.

    Every response is to try and slag fellow hibs fans off.

    Only post when you have FACTS.
    Thought not. Cheerio. Away and stalk someone else.

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    Thought not. Cheerio. Away and stalk someone else.
    You are a very sad man.

    Stalk you, I'd rather put you on ignore.

    I'll say it again you know nothing about how the club operates.

    Fans not coming to games because of the paintwork ffs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarlingtonHibee View Post
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    You are a very sad man.

    Stalk you, I'd rather put you on ignore.

    I'll say it again you know nothing about how the club operates.

    Fans not coming to games because of the paintwork ffs...

    Very sad man? You’ve said that about 5 times over the last few days have you got a stutter or something? I’ve actually no clue and never recognised any of your posts ever apart from launching attacks at me and making a complete fool of yourself.


    And you know so much about how the club operates yeah? Made a complete Neilson of the last thread you hung about trying to cause an arguement hurling loads of abuse and doing the same here.

    Please please put me on ignore, gies peace. I would rather interact with actual Hibs fans anyway.

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