Cup Attendances v Ticket Price

[Hibeesmad]

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Pretty sure cup runs very much are. Very much.

I read something about the Elgin chairman basically saying that their tie at Easter Road basically meant they could balance their books for next season’s budget or along those lines. Cup runs are a huge boost to clubs financially

[Iggy Pope]

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I read something about the Elgin chairman basically saying that their tie at Easter Road basically meant they could balance their books for next season’s budget or along those lines. Cup runs are a huge boost to clubs financially

Not just smaller sides. Any recent Hibs AGM tells you about the importance of a cup run to the budget.

[The Modfather]

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And you will probably be the first to complain when we can’t afford to sign a player.

Yep, that’s me. I’ve got my pitchfork and flaming torch sitting by the front door ready to go.

Or alternatively, I’m happy with how much I put into the club and how many games I choose to attend. While at the same time looking for Hibs to spend their budget wisely, whatever that budget may be.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Yes i pay to see Hibs but do you spend £66 and about 10 hours of your day to see a fairly poor opposition .
? How long does it take out of your Saturday ?

Why does the opposition matter?

[bingo70]

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Why does the opposition matter?

Because it effects the intensity and competitiveness of the match.

I watched yesterday on a stream and it was similar to watching a pre-season friendly.

Fair play to everyone that went though, genuinely, it’s games like this it’s a shame loyalty points couldn’t have been earned.

[The Modfather]

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Why does the opposition matter?

Should we just have one set price for all Hibs games regardless of opposition and competition then?

[danhibees1875]

£5.5 per home goal compared to their £15/goal rip-offs though.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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It was an easier decision for hearts & Livingston to reduce their price as they would get TV money to more than compensate

What TV money? The deal is with the SFA and the money in the main goes into the prize fund.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Just out of curiosity, why was the singing section empty yesterday?

Not real fans? Already got enough loyalty points...oh wait a minute

[Blaster]

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What TV money? The deal is with the SFA and the money in the main goes into the prize fund.

Don’t think that’s correct for cup ties. League games yes but cup games go to the teams for any live games

[B.H.F.C]

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What TV money? The deal is with the SFA and the money in the main goes into the prize fund.

You get a fee for televised Cup ties.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Don’t think that’s correct for cup ties. League games yes but cup games go to the teams for any live games

Quote from SFA CEO implies otherwise with regard current deal

“It will also drive significant revenue back to ALL the clubs who participate in the competition, ensuring ongoing investment into the game. We look forward to working with Premier Sports and the BBC to help us continue to tell the stories and cover the action of our top knockout competition.”

And from the Daily Rancid

Put forward by the SFA, the new cash arrangement aims to end the lottery of lower league clubs earning more from one live televised game in an early round of the cup than some sides earn from going all the way to the semis.

[linlithgowhibbie]

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Just out of curiosity, why was the singing section empty yesterday?

Coz they didn't go or split up in other areas. I went to East stand , seat at half way line for a change.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Coz they didn't go or split up in other areas. I went to East stand , seat at half way line for a change.

Yet Section 43 had two dozen and a seagull in it... fair weather fans😉

[Islington Hibs]

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Not sure that’s true if you look at our previous early round cup ties against lower league opposition.

2006 v Arbroath, Att 10,523 = 76% of our 2005/06 average attendance.
2010 v Montrose, Att 9,068 = 78% of our 2010/11 average attendance.
2010 v Irvine Meadow. Att, 10,197 = 84% of our 2010/11 average attendance.

2019 v Elgin, Att 7082 = 40% of our 2018/19 average attendance.

Unfortunately I think our gates have peaked. I suspect the gate would not have been more than a 1000 or so higher if we had charged £15. Too many poor games at ER for the fair weather fan I am afraid,

Sure we have 14000 odd seasons, which is amazing, but the actual crowds at games seem a bit thinner this season than last, regardless of what number Hibs announce. The numbers are still very healthy but yesterday was a bit more like the old days unfortunately.

The first half of this season has not been great ( not a disaster either) and hopefully we can play with a bit more style over the next few months. If not I suspect numbers will drift. Hope I am wrong!

[monktonharp]

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Hibs only home game in the whole of January, I don’t think the financial argument really holds water.

People stayed away imo because they are dismissive of wee games against wee teams in the early rounds. I paid the money, went and thoroughly enjoyed the game. Each to their own.

good for you Spike.assume you could afford it, and you did not have to take 2 or 3 kids there and buy them all a half pizza, a juice and a poke o' chips, look after them , get them to the game safely and hame safely and hopefully they were not all over the age of 5 , whereby you needed to pay their busfares unless you were a mile from the ground and could force march them to get there. and obviously bodyswerve the shop as they all have scarves anyway.

[monktonharp]

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I read something about the Elgin chairman basically saying that their tie at Easter Road basically meant they could balance their books for next season’s budget or along those lines. Cup runs are a huge boost to clubs financially

good for him

[monktonharp]

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Because it effects the intensity and competitiveness of the match.

I watched yesterday on a stream and it was similar to watching a pre-season friendly.

Fair play to everyone that went though, genuinely, it’s games like this it’s a shame loyalty points couldn’t have been earned.

the loyalty issue, will that could definitely attract more but Leeannn disnae dae loyalty.

[Juniper Greens]

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Unfortunately I think our gates have peaked. I suspect the gate would not have been more than a 1000 or so higher if we had charged £15. Too many poor games at ER for the fair weather fan I am afraid,

Sure we have 14000 odd seasons, which is amazing, but the actual crowds at games seem a bit thinner this season than last, regardless of what number Hibs announce. The numbers are still very healthy but yesterday was a bit more like the old days unfortunately.

The first half of this season has not been great ( not a disaster either) and hopefully we can play with a bit more style over the next few months. If not I suspect numbers will drift. Hope I am wrong!

2016 has also reduced cup attendance. I tried to never miss any round of the cup before. I know others who were the same. Now though, Elgin at home in an empty stadium isn't worth it (£20) I'm afraid.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Hibs were at home … I was there … I enjoyed the game coz now and again its nice to see Hibs dominate a game which actually means something. It was also nice to see Ryan Gauld not only give a wee hint of what a player he might turn out to be, but also showing that he is a hard working wee player. Nice to see Fraser Murray get a run out too.

I wasn't bothered about the admission price …. I was rather pissed off to get to the ground 10 minutes before kick off to find the ticket pod for the FF was closed and I couldn't take my usual PATG seat in the FF upper, meaning I had to join a huge queue for the East ticket pod.

[Speedy]

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Not sure that’s true if you look at our previous early round cup ties against lower league opposition.

2006 v Arbroath, Att 10,523 = 76% of our 2005/06 average attendance.
2010 v Montrose, Att 9,068 = 78% of our 2010/11 average attendance.
2010 v Irvine Meadow. Att, 10,197 = 84% of our 2010/11 average attendance.

2019 v Elgin, Att 7082 = 40% of our 2018/19 average attendance.

Cup top ups would've made a big difference if they were around in those years

[basehibby]

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Hibs only home game in the whole of January, I don’t think the financial argument really holds water.

People stayed away imo because they are dismissive of wee games against wee teams in the early rounds. I paid the money, went and thoroughly enjoyed the game. Each to their own.

NONSENSE!

It's late January and a lot of us are skint. I know I am anyway.

Re the Cup match - I was interested to see Ryan Gauld make his debut and was considering going even if I am skint. The lack of any discount for the match as compared to league matches certainly affected my thinking and I ended up keeping my money in my pocket and staying at home. If the price had been a discounted £15 as per the sheep and the yams I would quite possibly have attended and I know I'm not alone in this thinking.

Would the overall gate takings have been any more or less??? Of course it's impossible to say but I would hazard a guess that they would have been similar. What is a racing certainty though is that the attendance would have been greater if the price had been dropped to something like £15.

[Phil MaGlass]

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NONSENSE!

It's late January and a lot of us are skint. I know I am anyway.

Re the Cup match - I was interested to see Ryan Gauld make his debut and was considering going even if I am skint. The lack of any discount for the match as compared to league matches certainly affected my thinking and I ended up keeping my money in my pocket and staying at home. If the price had been a discounted £15 as per the sheep and the yams I would quite possibly have attended and I know I'm not alone in this thinking.

Would the overall gate takings have been any more or less??? Of course it's impossible to say but I would hazard a guess that they would have been similar. What is a racing certainty though is that the attendance would have been greater if the price had been dropped to something like £15.

tend to agree, drop prices and more folk will turn up, also, to watch a winning team may entice them back for more games.

[green day]

What was brilliant on Saturday was getting the voucher guaranteeing a Cup Semi / Final ticket as a thank you for attending.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Lots of families are skint and won’t have been paid since before Christmas.

I know of two families of four and five respectively who are season ticket holders but just couldn’t afford the day out, the ticket price wasn’t even considered. They took the kids up the Pentlands for a hike.

[Col L]

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What was brilliant on Saturday was getting the voucher guaranteeing a Cup Semi / Final ticket as a thank you for attending.

Said it before on the original thread, Hibs missed a great chance to show some goodwill to the fans by knocking a few quid of the admission prices, particularly for kids, after a crazy pile-up of fixtures in December.

And gimme peace with the 'Blame Elgin' school of thought. What evidence to we have that reduced admission was ever put to them as an option by Hibs? Airdrie had no problem agreeing to reduced prices for Celtic Park, Stenny the same at Pittodrie, and the stand-out stat for me was that Hibs charged more for the Scottish Cup than any other team in Scotland this weekend.

[Pretty Boy]

I didn't go because I couldn't be ersed tbh. Nothing to do with the price. I went a run on Saturday morning, took my bairn to the park and for lunch, watched the lunchtime game on the box then I was out at night; I had a nice day and don't really feel like I missed much.

Ok so I cost the club £20 but I've pumped several thousand into the club in various ways over the last few years so if £20 is costing us a player I'd suggest the issues run a bit deeper.

[bingo70]

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I didn't go because I couldn't be ersed tbh. Nothing to do with the price. I went a run on Saturday morning, took my bairn to the park and for lunch, watched the lunchtime game on the box then I was out at night; I had a nice day and don't really feel like I missed much.

Ok so I cost the club £20 but I've pumped several thousand into the club in various ways over the last few years so if £20 is costing us a player I'd suggest the issues run a bit deeper.

Consider yourself off Hermit Crabs Christmas card list.

[CapitalGreen]

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Cup top ups would've made a big difference if they were around in those years

Agreed, cup top ups lowered the cost of attending and resulted in much bigger crowds. It amazes me that despite the historic attendance provided and anecdotal evidence from fans on here that people are still dismissing the idea that charging £22 for a Scottish Cup game against Elgin put many fans off and had a significant impact on the attendance.

[green day]

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Said it before on the original thread, Hibs missed a great chance to show some goodwill to the fans by knocking a few quid of the admission prices, particularly for kids, after a crazy pile-up of fixtures in December.

And gimme peace with the 'Blame Elgin' school of thought. What evidence to we have that reduced admission was ever put to them as an option by Hibs? Airdrie had no problem agreeing to reduced prices for Celtic Park, Stenny the same at Pittodrie, and the stand-out stat for me was that Hibs charged more for the Scottish Cup than any other team in Scotland this weekend.

Aye, if Airdrie and Stenny did it, then it stands to reason that Elgin would have done it

By your rationale, in the absence of "evidence" we should jump to the assumption that it was all Hibs fault. Probably Petrie too.

.............or,back in the real world, we could use common sense - maybe look at the prices for other Hibs cup matches over the last few years v diddy teams, or even the Euro matches earlier in the season to see if your point holds water.