Had the pleasure of watching Messi score his 400th league goal tonight. Astounding stuff. The best we will ever see.
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13-01-2019 08:02 PM #1Retired
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13-01-2019 08:04 PM #2@hibs.net private member
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13-01-2019 08:05 PM #3Coaching Staff
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The easiest post to agree with on here in a while :)
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13-01-2019 08:09 PM #4Left by mutual consent!
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The best player in the history of the game. Originally Posted by underscore
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13-01-2019 08:14 PM #5Coaching Staff
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Well done to the Argentinian Gauld.
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13-01-2019 08:22 PM #6Coaching Staff
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We'll see better, players are getting better, strong, fitter all the time. He's the best so far though.
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"Best player ever" is always a bit subjective but from my own pov the wee guy has brought me no end of entertainment. A truly great footballer and a joy to watch.
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13-01-2019 08:28 PM #8ADMIN
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Imagine Best playing on today’s pitches with the modern ball and the protection given by refs these days. He would have been even better. Would Messi have coped with conditions back then? George Best is still the greatest ever for me. Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
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Digging gold from rock and roll
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He'll die before he's sold.
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13-01-2019 08:41 PM #9Coaching Staff
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No he wouldn't because he didn't take care of himself at all. His unprofessional attitude would end him these days. Originally Posted by marinello59
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Messi is far better than him by any metric as well.
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I agree. I think there is an argument to be made about different era’s but Best is a terrible example to use, he wouldn’t have made the top level in today’s game purely because he didn’t look after himself at all. Messi is the best we have seen and will take some doing to beat too. Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
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Best would have been too steaming. 400 goals!!! In a top league Originally Posted by marinello59
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Substitute Best for Maradona and that's equally valid. Maradona was kicked up and down by hairy ersed defenders on dodgy pitches all his career. Originally Posted by marinello59
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While there is undoubtedly aspects of the game from yesteryear that we have no idea if Messi would be able to cope with we also need to remember that players nowadays are physically streets ahead of what they were in the 20th century. While there’s less of the ‘illegal’ tackles that Messi and Ronaldo have to put up with they’re playing up against guys with physical attributes that players from the 70s or whenever could only have dreamt of, whether that be speed, strength, power, jumping or stamina. Originally Posted by hibsbollah
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13-01-2019 08:45 PM #14Coaching Staff
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He's up there with Ronaldo 😉 Originally Posted by underscore
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13-01-2019 08:55 PM #15First Team Regular
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Pain in the arse to be honest. I've got tickets to the league game next Sunday and was hoping he'd hold off till then. Originally Posted by underscore
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13-01-2019 08:56 PM #16@hibs.net private member
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Greatest of his era without a doubt, it's not even close
Greatest ever? Impossible to tell imo
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13-01-2019 09:03 PM #17Testimonial Due
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I thought he was signing, needs a NHC
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13-01-2019 10:05 PM #18Testimonial Due
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Both at their prime Maradona or Messi .. for me Maradona was the better player,dont see Messi being ever to have the same impact Diego did with Argentina and im.not talking about his cocaine usage in WC USA.
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Riordan has a better peg on him.
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13-01-2019 10:50 PM #20@hibs.net private member
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Messi is an undoubted talent and 400 goals is a fantastic achievement in modern day football.
However, he has achieved this by playing for Barca for 15 years, the only team he has ever played for, who have been a dominant force in Spain for decades and who have always boasted squads full of the world's greatest players... how would he have fared playing in lesser teams and how would players of the past have done in his situation?
Joe Baker, for example, scored 301 career goals, what might he have achieved if given the opportunity to play for 15 years in star stunned Barcelona squads?"The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it" - George Bernard Shaw.
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Messi being described as a talent is the biggest understatement I’ve ever heard to describe his greatness. Originally Posted by Bobo
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14-01-2019 12:24 AM #22Coaching Staff
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Preferred Jimmy O’Rourke!
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It's an impossibility to say what particular player was/is the greatest ever, there are numerous candidates. We can all have our favourites, mine would be Maradona. Originally Posted by underscore
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14-01-2019 01:10 AM #24Coaching Staff
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Impossible to compare eras but don’t think anyone has been at the top for as long as Messi in their eras possibly apart from Pele and Christiano Ronaldo. He’s [Messi] the greatest ever IMO.
This stuff about World Cups is ridiculous and almost irrelevant -international football isn’t anywhere near as important now and it’s far harder for one guy (who’s played 70 games already) to dominate a tournament. Teams are too well organised.
Maradona was incredible- maybe for 4-5 years on a different planet to anyone else at the time. He’s in the argument but really can’t imagine that despite his talent we can put George Best in there too- he was just finished too early.
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For me ,I would have liked to see messi do the business for argentina before he goes down as a true great.ive never really seen him inspire his country when he plays,looks a bit stroppy in that format,I think of great players bringing the best out of ther team,messi doesny do that for the argies.great club player undoubtedly.but not all round.ronaldo beats him for me easily.
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15-01-2019 08:59 PM #26First Team Regular
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Like win the under 20 world cup, win the olympics, get to three copa America finals and one world cup final? Originally Posted by tonyrougier123
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Why does his greatness have to depend on whether Higuain could score a chance in a tight final?
Ive never understood that argument.
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He's outstanding. But come on now, Ronaldos out in front as the best we will ever see. Originally Posted by underscore
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Not even close J. Ronaldo while a better athlete is nowhere near the baller that Messi is. His ability to see a pass is just out of this world. Interestingly, when pro footballers are asked between the 2, most say Messi. Originally Posted by California-Hibs
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George Best.
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15-01-2019 04:57 PM #30Left by mutual consent!
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I don't think Messi is the best ever. There's an argument he's not even the best of his generation but that's a matter of opinion.
I watch some of the 70's and 80's football on BT and there's not a single Scottish player today with the skills that these guys had. A bygone era of course. Anyway its difficult to say.
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