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    Cup Attendances v Ticket Price

    So the figures are in and I thought, with the chat about ticket prices, it would be interesting to compare our crowd with Aberdeen & Hearts.

    Hibs 7082 (£22)
    Aberdeen 9661 (£15)
    Hearts 11077 (£15)
    I assumed kids tickets were £10 for Aberdeen & Tynie as I couldn’t find the price. Our kids were £12.

    Back of fag packet calculation where I estimated a 70/30 split of adult/concession (no idea if that’s even close TBH) shows the following income, after VAT is deducted:

    Hibs £112k
    Aberdeen £98k
    Hearts £109.5k
    (Edited to reflect kids tickets @£5)

    So, in order to take roughly the same money @ £15 a ticket we would need to add in the region of 3000 fans to the gate.

    Obviously the pricing argument isn’t just a financial debate but interesting none the less.
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    We can’t drop prices unless the away team agree to it.

    Elgin made £60k almost yesterday.

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    What’s the % of Cup top up or did that die moons ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VivaPalmeiras View Post
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    What’s the % of Cup top up or did that die moons ago?
    I don't think there is one any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    I don't think there is one any more.
    There isn’t, Hibs stopped offering it when the league cup format changed

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    Hibs only home game in the whole of January, I don’t think the financial argument really holds water.

    People stayed away imo because they are dismissive of wee games against wee teams in the early rounds. I paid the money, went and thoroughly enjoyed the game. Each to their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    Hibs only home game in the whole of January, I don’t think the financial argument really holds water.

    People stayed away imo because they are dismissive of wee games against wee teams in the early rounds. I paid the money, went and thoroughly enjoyed the game. Each to their own.
    When you say financial argument do you just mean whether folk can afford to go or not? I could afford to go but didn’t think £20/£22 was anything like value for money so chose to spend my day doing something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    Hibs only home game in the whole of January, I don’t think the financial argument really holds water.

    People stayed away imo because they are dismissive of wee games against wee teams in the early rounds. I paid the money, went and thoroughly enjoyed the game. Each to their own.
    I tend to agree, more not all would have found the money to go had it been a tie against Hertz, Old Firm, Aberdeen .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frazerbob View Post
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    So the figures are in and I thought, with the chat about ticket prices, it would be interesting to compare our crowd with Aberdeen & Hearts.

    Hibs 7082 (£22)
    Aberdeen 9661 (£15)
    Hearts 11077 (£15)
    I assumed kids tickets were £10 for Aberdeen & Tynie as I couldn’t find the price. Our kids were £12.

    Back of fag packet calculation where I estimated a 70/30 split of adult/concession (no idea if that’s even close TBH) shows the following income, after VAT is deducted:

    Hibs £112k
    Aberdeen £108.5k
    Hearts £124.5k

    So, in order to take roughly the same money @ £15 a ticket we would need to add in the region of 3000 fans to the gate.

    Obviously the pricing argument isn’t just a financial debate but interesting none the less.
    When looking at the price of the pies at ER I think you could almost double the figure - on the basis that everyone consumed one. 😀

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    Hibs only home game in the whole of January, I don’t think the financial argument really holds water.

    People stayed away imo because they are dismissive of wee games against wee teams in the early rounds. I paid the money, went and thoroughly enjoyed the game. Each to their own.
    The catering and hospitality outlets may have a dissimilar input.

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    Pretty sure it was £5 for a kid at Hearts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Pretty sure it was £5 for a kid at Hearts.
    In which case you could knock £15k off their figure meaning we took in more than them.

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    It was an easier decision for hearts & Livingston to reduce their price as they would get TV money to more than compensate

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    Raith V Dunfermline was £15 for Adults, £10 for O65 and £5 for under 16's. Expect Raith to agree to the same?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibby View Post
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    I tend to agree, more not all would have found the money to go had it been a tie against Hertz, Old Firm, Aberdeen .
    The Cup always starts just after Xmas and New Year, and before people have had their first paycheck.
    So it goes without saying attendances will be down and if you get a wee team in the draw, everyone thinks, i'll see them in the next round!!
    Tynie today looked really bad with only 1 section in the Wheatfield full, the rest empty.
    Not sure how that worked out, as must be a lot of season ticket holders moved for the game???

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    Quote Originally Posted by where'stheslope View Post
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    The Cup always starts just after Xmas and New Year, and before people have had their first paycheck.
    So it goes without saying attendances will be down and if you get a wee team in the draw, everyone thinks, i'll see them in the next round!!
    Tynie today looked really bad with only 1 section in the Wheatfield full, the rest empty.
    Not sure how that worked out, as must be a lot of season ticket holders moved for the game???
    They closed the Wheatfield stand but had to open as the other 2 home stands nearly sold out. It was the only area for walk ups

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    Hibs only home game in the whole of January, I don’t think the financial argument really holds water.

    People stayed away imo because they are dismissive of wee games against wee teams in the early rounds. I paid the money, went and thoroughly enjoyed the game. Each to their own.
    Not sure that’s true if you look at our previous early round cup ties against lower league opposition.

    2006 v Arbroath, Att 10,523 = 76% of our 2005/06 average attendance.
    2010 v Montrose, Att 9,068 = 78% of our 2010/11 average attendance.
    2010 v Irvine Meadow. Att, 10,197 = 84% of our 2010/11 average attendance.

    2019 v Elgin, Att 7082 = 40% of our 2018/19 average attendance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frazerbob View Post
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    So the figures are in and I thought, with the chat about ticket prices, it would be interesting to compare our crowd with Aberdeen & Hearts.

    Hibs 7082 (£22)
    Aberdeen 9661 (£15)
    Hearts 11077 (£15)
    I assumed kids tickets were £10 for Aberdeen & Tynie as I couldn’t find the price. Our kids were £12.

    Back of fag packet calculation where I estimated a 70/30 split of adult/concession (no idea if that’s even close TBH) shows the following income, after VAT is deducted:

    Hibs £112k
    Aberdeen £108.5k
    Hearts £124.5k

    So, in order to take roughly the same money @ £15 a ticket we would need to add in the region of 3000 fans to the gate.

    Obviously the pricing argument isn’t just a financial debate but interesting none the less.
    Are you calculating all adults tickets at £22? It was £20 for season ticket holders up to a certain date so I'd reckon about 2500-3000 were sold at that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    Are you calculating all adults tickets at £22? It was £20 for season ticket holders up to a certain date so I'd reckon about 2500-3000 were sold at that price.
    Although I was there, I still found it a little embarrassing that we were the highest priced ticket for all of the 4th round cup ties. I keep reading on here that this was down to Elgin but have still to see any evidence of this.

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    It costs me about £40 to come up from Carlisle so i dont mind when when my season ticket covers my attendance but not going to shell out another £22 to see Elgin as much as I regret not seeing the game

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    The catering and hospitality outlets may have a dissimilar input.
    On that subject. No hot food in the away end isn’t a good advert. Two wee 9 year old Elgin fans that were at the game and looking forward to a pie at a big team were left disappointed.
    Behind The Goals closed as well. I had hoped to take them there to to watch the Auchinleck v Ayr game. Took them to the Edin City club instead.
    Hibernian need to get a grip. ‘Match day experience’ sadly lacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Modfather View Post
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    When you say financial argument do you just mean whether folk can afford to go or not? I could afford to go but didn’t think £20/£22 was anything like value for money so chose to spend my day doing something different.
    And you will probably be the first to complain when we can’t afford to sign a player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    Are you calculating all adults tickets at £22? It was £20 for season ticket holders up to a certain date so I'd reckon about 2500-3000 were sold at that price.
    And I wouldnt be surprised if the cost of the ST deduction came from Hibs share of the gate money.

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    It costs me about £40 to come up from Carlisle so i dont mind when when my season ticket covers my attendance but not going to shell out another £22 to see Elgin as much as I regret not seeing the game
    But you don't pay £22 to see Elgin, you pay it to see Hibs surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kojock View Post
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    And you will probably be the first to complain when we can’t afford to sign a player.
    Pretty sure cup games are not even considered with regards to player budget.

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    Hibs only home game in the whole of January, I don’t think the financial argument really holds water.

    People stayed away imo because they are dismissive of wee games against wee teams in the early rounds. I paid the money, went and thoroughly enjoyed the game. Each to their own.
    Number of home games doesn’t really add to an argument though, as about 80% of our average gate have season tickets so wouldn’t be buying tickets even if we had 4 home games. January itself is a horrendous month for majority, paid early December, Xmas, new year, 6/7 weeks between pays, away season tickets having 3 lots of cash off at once nearly. The prices were ludicrous for the size of game it was and the ‘budget’ argument doesn’t stack up for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbykeith View Post
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    Pretty sure cup games are not even considered with regards to player budget.
    Pretty sure cup runs very much are. Very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    But you don't pay £22 to see Elgin, you pay it to see Hibs surely?
    Yes i pay to see Hibs but do you spend £66 and about 10 hours of your day to see a fairly poor opposition .
    ? How long does it take out of your Saturday ?

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    Good tweet from Michael Stewart just now:-

    “Some great games in this weekend’s @ScottishCup and fantastic crowds too in some of the smaller ties.

    Think there needs to be a collective drive to get the fans to the games at the bigger stadiums though.

    A uniformed pricing structure for the early rounds of £5child/£10adult?”

    Don’t know about the prices he mentions but I like the idea of a uniformed pricing structure.

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