Dundee United bought over

[HibeeHibernian4]

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The rivalry between the two Dundee clubs isn't as fierce tbf

Seems a bit dismissive of us to say that. Imagine if the Old Firm called for us and Hearts to share a ground because our rivalry isn't as fierce as theirs is. It's all relative.

[GordonR]

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A rich business man with no connection or knowledge of Scottish football... What could possibly go wrong?

Is he an ex-submarine commander too?

[Michael]

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It may make 'complete sense' but we'd hardly be thrilled if a ground share with Hearts were to happen.

Our stadiums aren't across the road from each other though.

[PatHead]

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I know you're close to Utd through family PH, what's your immediate thoughts (that you can share) on this buy-out ?

I'd be very concerned that with both clubs having owners who have no real emotional tie, there is a big risk of merger being sounded out - would either club have the appetite to oppose this with any ferocity you reckon ?

Talks have been going on for ages. Mike is very comfortable with the deal and believes it will take United forward. He wouldn't have sold if he believed a merger was likely.

[cleanyman]

Hope it fails miserably

[DarlingtonHibee]

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I'd be delighted just to see the back of Petrie.

Can you please explain?

[Ryan69]

I would of thought Scotland would be a good place for people too invest big in a team.
Wouldnt take much to get to Champions League.

Get to Group stage recoup about £20 million minimum.

Theres so many rich owners in England....Theres not much return these days.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I would of thought Scotland would be a good place for people too invest big in a team.
Wouldnt take much to get to Champions League.

Get to Group stage recoup about £20 million minimum.

Theres so many rich owners in England....Theres not much return these days.

Did you ever pilot a sub through the Baltic?

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[Colr]

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Trump? Oh no that can't be right, it's a Russian club he has been trying to buy.

I think its the Russians that own him!!

[FilipinoHibs]

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Sir Tom did have family connections with Hibs including his grandfather and his brother who followed us.

And the Leith community.

[Sioux]

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Can you please explain?

Ignore him. He comes out with that BS on every other thread.

[DarlingtonHibee]

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Ignore him. He comes out with that BS on every other thread.

Thank you.

[DetroitHibs]

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Can you please explain?

My personal opinion is he's done a poor job with the club on the field. I think as long as he's behind the scenes he'll always hold us back.

[DarlingtonHibee]

School night for you...

[Itsnoteasy]

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My personal opinion is he's done a poor job with the club on the field. I think as long as he's behind the scenes he'll always hold us back.

He also has no interest in fitbaw.

[Itsnoteasy]

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Sir Tom did have family connections with Hibs including his grandfather and his brother who followed us.

But the man himself has no interest or any connections.
As for the Leith thing, if you are brought up there you should be connected to Hibs.
My grandad supported Hertz & I was brought up in Gorgie.
My only connection to that mob is i hope they get rammed every week.

[Smartie]

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One would assume that Mike Martin would have sought assurances that this wouldn't happen.

When I was texting my Utd supporting mate back and forth following their recent game with Ayr, he said he was open to the idea.

[truehibernian]

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But the man himself has no interest or any connections.
As for the Leith thing, if you are brought up there you should be connected to Hibs.
My grandad supported Hertz & I was brought up in Gorgie.
My only connection to that mob is i hope they get rammed every week.

You said STF had no connections to Hibs and no interest in football (in your original post).

He has very firm family connections with the club given his grandfather bailed out the club in a time of need and his brothers support(ed) Hibs. He didn't attend games as a boy and admits he was not into football, yet since taking control of the club he attends games when he is fit and well and this view (and that of his family ) may have changed over time - he was on the open top bus after the cup win and was like a kid at Christmas

So you're comparison was totally wrong

[NAE NOOKIE]

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I would of thought Scotland would be a good place for people too invest big in a team.
Wouldnt take much to get to Champions League.

Get to Group stage recoup about £20 million minimum.

Theres so many rich owners in England....Theres not much return these days.

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Did you ever pilot a sub through the Baltic?

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I agree with Ryan69 on this one. We baulk at what the Ugly sisters pay in wages, especially Celtic, but the truth is that in the grand scheme of things they probably wouldn't make a dent in a singe one of Europe's so called big 5 leagues for that money.

The hook for any watching billionaires isn't just the relatively small amount they would have to spend to propel a non old firm team into the Champions league. There is also the fact that there is scope to grow a Scottish club and of all the clubs out there Hibs are absolutely the prime example, we have proved that we can grow our attendances under the right circumstances and there is room for stadium development. It cant be ignored or denied that if any Scottish club was to break the old firm monopoly it would draw attention from all around the football world and the kudos an owner would get from that would be very attractive if you ask me.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I agree with Ryan69 on this one. We baulk at what the Ugly sisters pay in wages, especially Celtic, but the truth is that in the grand scheme of things they probably wouldn't make a dent in a singe one of Europe's so called big 5 leagues for that money.

The hook for any watching billionaires isn't just the relatively small amount they would have to spend to propel a non old firm team into the Champions league. There is also the fact that there is scope to grow a Scottish club and of all the clubs out there Hibs are absolutely the prime example, we have proved that we can grow our attendances under the right circumstances and there is room for stadium development. It cant be ignored or denied that if any Scottish club was to break the old firm monopoly it would draw attention from all around the football world and the kudos an owner would get from that would be very attractive if you ask me.

I can think of a recent example where someone spent North of £70m, got himself an insolvency and an arrest warrant, and still no Champions League.


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[NAE NOOKIE]

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I can think of a recent example where someone spent North of £70m, got himself an insolvency and an arrest warrant, and still no Champions League.


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I know CWG, but my theory was based on a guy with the sort of money they could theoretically buy an EPL club with and who had actually made or inherited that money rather than stole it

When you consider the huge sums you have to spend just to keep a mid table EPL club standing still, I cant see why spending ( comparatively ) far less enabling a Scottish club to break the Ugly sisters duopoly isn't an attractive proposition. If you ask me the publicity and exposure that would bring should be grist to the mill for yer average everyday billionaire looking to invest in football.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I know CWG, but my theory was based on a guy with the sort of money they could theoretically buy an EPL club with and who had actually made or inherited that money rather than stole it

When you consider the huge sums you have to spend just to keep a mid table EPL club standing still, I cant see why spending ( comparatively ) far less enabling a Scottish club to break the Ugly sisters duopoly isn't an attractive proposition. If you ask me the publicity and exposure that would bring should be grist to the mill for yer average everyday billionaire looking to invest in football.

2 words.

Scottish.

Referees.

[NAE NOOKIE]

On the subject of the two Dundee clubs. The last thing Scottish football needs is two of our top 10 supported clubs merging, its not as if we are awash with big clubs as it is. It would be tragic to lose the Dundee derby as well.

But given the proximity of the two grounds I don't think a shared stadium would be as big a deal as it would if Hibs and Hearts shared a stadium … The money to be saved in running costs and the like for both clubs would surely suit them both.

I see another poster suggested playing at one stadium while the other was redeveloped and then moving into the new stadium and selling off the other. I doubt that would wash with one set of supporters, at a guess Dens park looks like the best site to build a stadium on, but I doubt the United fans would accept both clubs playing at what would in effect be Dens park by another name once the shared stadium was up and running. The best bet would be to sell off both grounds for redevelopment as housing estates or whatever and move to a new site ….. hopefully not miles outside of the city like Aberdeen are planning.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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2 words.

Scottish.

Referees.

They wouldn't be able to make enough dodgy decisions to compete with the goals we would score with Messi and Ronaldo in the team

[Crunchie]

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It may make 'complete sense' but we'd hardly be thrilled if a ground share with Hearts were to happen.

I wouldn't mind as long as it was Easter Road we were sharing

[jacomo]

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Absolutely no chance of the Dundee clubs merging and neither they should.

A new, shared stadium would make sense though. Hopefully they build something a bit bigger and with more character than the likes of the St Mirren stadium.

If they built one new stadium where they are now, they would still free up a lot of land for redevelopment.

A groundshare looks compelling because of the ludicrous proximity of the two clubs. It just makes so much sense.

[Iggy Pope]

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If they built one new stadium where they are now, they would still free up a lot of land for redevelopment.

A groundshare looks compelling because of the ludicrous proximity of the two clubs. It just makes so much sense.

It's never been compelling enough when both clubs have been in worse (and better) situations covering over a hundred years. Fans of both clubs,would laugh their tits off at such suggestions emanating from anyone from Edinburgh.

[Lago]

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You said STF had no connections to Hibs and no interest in football (in your original post).

He has very firm family connections with the club given his grandfather bailed out the club in a time of need and his brothers support(ed) Hibs. He didn't attend games as a boy and admits he was not into football, yet since taking control of the club he attends games when he is fit and well and this view (and that of his family ) may have changed over time - he was on the open top bus after the cup win and was like a kid at Christmas

So you're comparison was totally wrong

While we're talking about ownership I've been wondering if plans are in place for the day when STF is no longer with us. I am of a certain age where a will has been made & those that need to know are aware of it's contents, is something similar in place for Hibs ?

[CropleyWasGod]

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While we're talking about ownership I've been wondering if plans are in place for the day when STF is no longer with us. I am of a certain age where a will has been made & those that need to know are aware of it's contents, is something similar in place for Hibs ?

I have little doubt that there will be.

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I wouldn't mind as long as it was Easter Road we were sharing

and both teams could be called Hibernian