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Neil Lennon was not our manager...and if I play your game for a second...then I could equally state that Neil Lennon would have got us promoted at the expense of either Hearts or Sevco, or won us the treble in 2016 of promotion as champions, The League Cup and The Scottish Cup
See how ridiculous it is to fantasise!
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06-12-2018 06:09 PM #121
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07-12-2018 09:58 AM #122
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07-12-2018 11:12 AM #123This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you think your security can keep you in purity, you will not shake us off above or below. Scottish friction, Scottish fiction
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07-12-2018 11:14 AM #124
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This is all getting very complicated and is giving me a headache.
I've actually lost track of what the argument was by now anyway
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07-12-2018 11:19 AM #126This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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07-12-2018 02:35 PM #127This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The ‘one of’ qualification is taking the p***.
Stubbs is the greatest cup manager of the past century. Surely no one can disagree with that?
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07-12-2018 02:46 PM #128
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The silence from our manager is deafening at the moment. Something badly wrong about that in itself.
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07-12-2018 02:55 PM #129
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I honestly think with the squad we had the team of Stubbs, Holden and Doolan would have done the same. Only top flight team they lost to over 90 minutes was Ross County with a horrendous injury list in midfield.
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07-12-2018 02:55 PM #131
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Has there been a Friday presser?
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07-12-2018 04:34 PM #132This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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07-12-2018 05:25 PM #133
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He still has full support from me. I'm optimistic we are going to win tomorrow and start turning things around. Go Hibs!
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07-12-2018 06:06 PM #134
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In 4 full seasons as Celtic manager, he won just two cups. In his first season he lost to second tier Ross County in the semi final too. Given that, for 3 season, Rangers were in financial meltdown, it is shocking that he didn't even come close to a treble once. The nearest he got was 2012, when he lost to Kilmarnock in the Final and Hearts in the Semi Final.
His cup record at Hibs has been similarly underwhelming. An abject defeat at home to Queen of the South in the League Cup, a fourth round exit to Hearts, a penalty shootout defeat to Aberdeen having dominated them. He has reached two semi finals, losing them both. The first with a terribly set up team in a 3-2 defeat against Aberdeen in the semi final (Lennon took no blame for this IIRC), and the second being a 4-2 defeat against Rodgers' Celtic, which is fair enough.
So please, correct me. If I'm as wildly wrong as you claim, it should be easy, right?
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07-12-2018 06:07 PM #135
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07-12-2018 08:07 PM #136This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Wash your mouth out with soap.
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07-12-2018 08:11 PM #137This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Its like matchplay in golf - the score is irrelevant, winning the league is all that counts.
Love Stubbs for winning the cup, but as a league manager he failed, and not just with us.
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07-12-2018 08:22 PM #138
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Personally, I think the bizarre situation on the forum right now is due in part to people totally over reacting and losing faith too quickly (I.e Lennon still has my full support). But also because of how over the top many people were about him in the first place.
The “enjoy him while he’s here” and “best manager we’ve ever had” thread titles and posts occurred weekly only a couple of months ago.
It could be said that this place recently is one of the best examples of “fickle football fans” you’ll find.
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07-12-2018 08:23 PM #139This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's hard to argue with an anti-Lennon supporter who turns "conjecture" into "fact" in their own head.
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07-12-2018 08:24 PM #140This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If a team finishes 2nd on 90 points but then finishes top a few seasons later with 60 points, what ones the better side?
People aren't debating whether Lennon won the league or not, he did, but he only done marginally better over the 36 games than Stubbs did. The other teams just weren't as good as previous seasons.
Will Lennon be looked upon as a failed league manager if he gets sacked by us? That would be two sackings in a row, both of them pretty much based on league form. I wouldn't see him as one btw, but I also wouldn't view Stubbs as one based on taking a job that was a hiding to nothing down south and getting 4 league games at St Mirren.Last edited by calumhibee1; 07-12-2018 at 08:29 PM.
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07-12-2018 08:33 PM #141This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
This remains a blot on Stubbsy's copy book.
On that occasion he "Did not bring Hibs back from the dead", nor did he bring Hibs back from the dead against Falkirk in the play offs or, indeed, league placings.
The Scottish Cup win put all these in the shade and he was forgiven by many for that glorious May day.
To now attack Lennon's record by comparing it to Stubbsy's is, frankly, ludicrous.
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08-12-2018 12:57 AM #142
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You state Stubbsy is one of the best cup managers in British, and then list all Lennon's failing as a domestic cup manager (don't forget he has a far more extensive record in European cup formats, including a champs league last 16) but don't list Stubbs failings as a domestic cup manager(not listing knockout formats like the playoffs, in which we were very poor).
I've no idea if Stubbs has even won a cup fixture since that glorious day? Listen, I'll always love Stubbsy for that day, but the accomplishment is as much a statement of the generally poor management of our club over 114 years than it is him being the next guardiola.
For me, Lennon is a cut above in management terms. More experienced (at a higher level), track record of developing players into top class players and had created a winning attitude that hopefully will return soon.
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08-12-2018 08:58 PM #144
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We go again next week. In Lenny we trust
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08-12-2018 10:52 PM #145This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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16-12-2018 01:39 PM #146
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Next please. In Lenny we trust
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