The Scotsman reminds me of Scotland rugby fans. Fiercely proud to be Scottish when there’s a game on, but quick to tell you we’re not big or clever enough to run our own country the rest of the time.
Typical Edinburgh middle class pish that won’t be missed.
* I’m generalising, not all rugby fans or Scotsman readers for the above description 😂
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Thread: Evening News and Scotsman
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17-11-2018 07:14 PM #91
United we stand here....
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17-11-2018 09:51 PM #92
I think it's time this thread was moved to the Holy Ground as it has no football content, just a series of blinkered political views.
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17-11-2018 11:27 PM #93
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Continuing the world wide trend of newspaper distress, whereby people demand ‘instant news’
Will indeed be sorry to see them go.
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17-11-2018 11:38 PM #94This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There is not a single national newspaper in this country printing a balanced view of the Scottish government's running of the country or giving anything like equal treatment to the arguments for and against independence and that's reflected in their front pages and editorials every day of the week:
The Daily Record … anti
The Sun … currently anti … though they bounce back and forward depending on where they think the money is to be fair.
The Mirror … anti
The Daily Mail . viciously anti
The Daily Express … viciously anti
The Glasgow Herald … anti
The Scotsman … anti
The rest like the Telegraph have such small circulation north of the border their opinion barely matters.
Its not a blinkered view to say that the press in Scotland is a million miles from being a reflection of the populations attitude towards the Scottish government or its views on independence because its so bloody self evident that it is, with it being massively unbalanced in its reporting of the Scottish government and its attitude towards Scottish independence.
It is absolutely the job of a free press to call to account the people in charge, to help ensure they do not abuse their power and to inform the public when they find examples of bad decision making, abuse of political position or downright dishonesty. The press in this country do not do that, most if not all of the papers mentioned above work day and night to put a bad spin on anything the SNP lead government do or have done over the last 10 years and if they cant find anything they more often than not make it up.
That is an absolute fact, not a political point of view and its something the press in this country should be utterly ashamed of …. though considering they are bye and large run from London and their editorial policy is influenced if not directly set by multi millionaire right wing owners and publishers I highly doubt they could give a toss.
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17-11-2018 11:47 PM #95This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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18-11-2018 12:24 AM #96This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Say what you like about sites like Wings over Scotland or Wee Ginger Dug, but they do not pretend to be anything other than what they are. In this context the biggest thing they do isn't actually promoting independence, what they do is day after day take stories from these papers and debunk the mistruths, deliberate omissions and downright lies they have used to batter the SNP and the independence movement in general.
In the case of Wings over Scotland every fact or piece of information used to show up these mistruths, deliberate omissions and downright lies has citations and links which enable the reader to fact check the information used by the site for themselves. If folk don't believe that all they have to do is log onto Wings over Scotland and check for themselves.
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18-11-2018 01:59 AM #97This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
United we stand here....
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18-11-2018 06:49 AM #98This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Deliberately ignoring the massive story that was developing at old Rangers was an absolute disgrace. I read about their use of EBT’s and side letters months before they were ever mentioned in the mainstream press on website like rangerstaxcase.com . The information was all out there for them to find the story but they deliberately ignored it.
And now I’m supposed to feel sorry for them?
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18-11-2018 07:08 AM #99This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Last edited by Beefster; 18-11-2018 at 07:10 AM.
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18-11-2018 07:27 AM #100
https://www.scotsman.com/news/obitua...nist-1-3645331
Ian Wood’s obituary. His “Slice of Life” musings on golf and, eh, life, were worthy of collection and publication.
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18-11-2018 03:04 PM #103
Gutted for the staff TBF. Can’t think it’s s good thing and certainly not amusing. The paper did need to evolve long ago. The management, in sheer panic and desperation, tried to steer clear of the iceberg but are going the way of the Titanic!
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18-11-2018 03:19 PM #104This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I’ve a wee stash of copies of the Pink/ Evening News/Scotsman/ Scotland on Sunday bought after memorable Hibs games, going back to the late 80’s. Some brilliant stuff in them.
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18-11-2018 03:19 PM #105
Buy out by some group reported but union up in arms about loss of pension
There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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18-11-2018 04:42 PM #106
This thread had nothing to do with either Hibs or football or tolerance or concern for people’s jobs. It serves to destroy any notion of whatever is meant by ‘Hibs class’.
Can admin please move it to the Holy Ground or preferably the bin.
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18-11-2018 04:45 PM #107
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The papers have been saved by JPIMedia
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18-11-2018 05:05 PM #108This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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18-11-2018 08:43 PM #111This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThere is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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18-11-2018 08:50 PM #112This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Mostly online, I'd imagine.
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19-11-2018 10:03 AM #113
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19-11-2018 03:14 PM #115
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The written press has for a long time subscribed to a pre-ordained dogma when reporting on certain matters of international import. This leads to great guffaws in many quarters when the MSM harps on about "fake news" - because they wrote the manual and remain masters of this dark art! A great example of this was the pathetic unquestioning parroting of WMD lies in the lead up to the Iraq War - another more recent one was the largely manufactured anti-semitism "crisis" in the Labour Party. These are but a couple of examples of the established written press acting as an echo chamber to implant ideas in the public psyche which presumably serve the interests of their owners and their allies. The advent of alternative media on t'internet has served to expose this tendency and added disillusionment with the written press to the potent mix of convenience and FREENESS offered on the internet.
And apart from that the Evening News is pretty gash anyway! And the likes of Gumtree have blown them out the water in the small ads market.
Sad for journalists who are losing one of the established paths through which they can seek to earn a living - like musicians and other creatives they will have to seek alternatives. Not sad at all for the proprietors responsible for framing editorial policies that are contributing to their own downfall.
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20-11-2018 10:01 AM #116
I dont wish to get into a political argument. I bought The National for the first time when I was back for the rugby on Saturday. What a refreshing read, YES it's mostly one sided, but, and this is the problem for the Een and Scotsman,the journalists know their subjects, their writing is articulate and informative,,something that has been missing in the 2 newspapers mentioned, it's a shame the papers gone to the wall, but, the quality was lost decades ago.
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20-11-2018 12:57 PM #118
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As for the papers you list, given that the Herald group actually publish the National and that until its recent demise the Sunday Herald was strongly supportive of the SNP I'd suggest they're far from anti-independence. The Scotsman these days is cobbled together by such a skeleton staff that they're probably just glad to get a paper out without bothering much about whether they're perceived as pro or anti independence.
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20-11-2018 01:19 PM #119
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Which is a direct lift from a poll garnered from a deliberately skewed question by...Scotland in Union.
Them's the FACTS, right enough, Johnston Press-style.
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20-11-2018 01:57 PM #120This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Would you vote for Scottish independence in a second referendum?What a moment this is!
It's Liam Henderson to deliver......
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