Which of the teams above us would you say we'll eventually finish ahead of?

**My old man** · 13-11-2018 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Smartie

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Celtic and Aberdeen will finish ahead of us.

Sevco will implode at some point, we'll be a nudge ahead of Killie and eventually pull a mile ahead of Livi and St Johnstone.

We'll just about hang in there until January and Neil Lennon will produce some more rabbits from his hat who will fire us on to a very strong second half of the season.

We're not far away from being a very good side.

I’m with you on that
GGTTH

**EH54** · 13-11-2018 10:32 AM

If we finish outside the top 4 it's a shocking season. We always seem to be just behind the big boys rather than infront. Even last season was an anti climax and a shocker that we never finished higher than 4th. Shows how good a job Levein and Clarke have done/are doing considering the foundations we had in place when stubbs walked out the door. Should have been enough to create a gap between us and hearts for a couple of years at least. Lennon's responsibility for me and questioning his signings now tbh, and tactically the last few games. Maybe we just got lucky in January..

***One Day Soon*** · 13-11-2018 10:35 AM

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If we finish outside the top 4 it's a shocking season. We always seem to be just behind the big boys rather than infront. Even last season was an anti climax and a shocker that we never finished higher than 4th. Shows how good a job Levein and Clarke have done/are doing considering the foundations we had in place when stubbs walked out the door. Should have been enough to create a gap between us and hearts for a couple of years at least. Lennon's responsibility for me and questioning his signings now tbh, and tactically the last few games. Maybe we just got lucky in January..

Premature speculation

***jacomo*** · 13-11-2018 10:35 AM

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If we finish outside the top 4 it's a shocking season. We always seem to be just behind the big boys rather than infront. Even last season was an anti climax and a shocker that we never finished higher than 4th. Shows how good a job Levein and Clarke have done/are doing considering the foundations we had in place when stubbs walked out the door. Should have been enough to create a gap between us and hearts for a couple of years at least. Lennon's responsibility for me and questioning his signings now tbh, and tactically the last few games. Maybe we just got lucky in January..

I’m really not sure you grasp this ‘competitive sport’ business.

Either that or you see what you want to see.

**EH54** · 13-11-2018 10:39 AM

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I’m really not sure you grasp this ‘competitive sport’ business.

Either that or you see what you want to see.

I just feel we were miles ahead on and off the park and had/have a better manager than the other sides. Really surprised with Clarke and what he's done at Killie though, but it shouldn't be enough for them to finish higher than hibs with the budget we have in comparison to theirs. Same goes for hearts to an extent they had to sign a full squad we needed to replace a midfield. Lennon should have it right by now imo. Frustrating that's all.

**~~G B Young~~** · 13-11-2018 10:47 AM

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If we finish outside the top 4 it's a shocking season. We always seem to be just behind the big boys rather than infront. Even last season was an anti climax and a shocker that we never finished higher than 4th. Shows how good a job Levein and Clarke have done/are doing considering the foundations we had in place when stubbs walked out the door. Should have been enough to create a gap between us and hearts for a couple of years at least. Lennon's responsibility for me and questioning his signings now tbh, and tactically the last few games. Maybe we just got lucky in January..

Nonsense. For our first season back up it was an outstanding effort to be in the running for second spot right up until the final week and I find it hard to believe any of us wouldn't have accepted that before the season started. As for Levein doing a good job, he was responsible for the Cathro fiasco and the yams wanted him sacked too after last season's dismal efforts. He's thrown an entire new squad at things this season so we'll see how that pans out. Clarke, I grant you, is doing a superb job at Killie.

It's a strange situation at Hibs right now. Due to our European run (how long ago does that seem??), the season seems both to have been going on for ages yet at the same time feels that it's never really got started. What underpinned our excellent run in the second half of last season was a largely settled side, something we have not had this time round. Hopefully we'll see some stability on that front and with it the return of some consistently good results.

***lucky*** · 13-11-2018 12:23 PM

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Anywhere between 3rd and 5th should be our finishing position based on Celtic and Rangers finishing in the top 2 and our direct rivals being Hearts and Aberdeen. We should never be finishing behind any other team in the country.

Spot on. Money talks and the 5 biggest clubs will be in the top 5 with Killie or the Saints in 6th

***overdrive*** · 13-11-2018 12:34 PM

I think people are being a bit too hasty in writing off Livi. They are strong defensively and their home form will be good, mainly due to the pitch being a massive leveler.

***Keith_M*** · 13-11-2018 01:18 PM

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Nonsense. For our first season back up it was an outstanding effort to be in the running for second spot right up until the final week and I find it hard to believe any of us wouldn't have accepted that before the season started..

We only missed out on second in the last couple of games of the season. We finished 18 points ahead of Hearts, even though they'd already been back up for two seasons and have a much bigger budget than us.

We also gave Celtc the biggest challenge of any club in league games, with one win, two draws and one defeat, and received plaudits from many as the most entertaining side they'd watched.

Oh and we actually qualified for Europe, something we don't exactly do on a regular basis

But I suppose some people are just never happy.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 13-11-2018 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by EH54

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I just feel we were miles ahead on and off the park and had/have a better manager than the other sides. Really surprised with Clarke and what he's done at Killie though, but it shouldn't be enough for them to finish higher than hibs with the budget we have in comparison to theirs. Same goes for hearts to an extent they had to sign a full squad we needed to replace a midfield. Lennon should have it right by now imo. Frustrating that's all.

Imagine you have just inherited your first car a mercedes, you run it for a year or two and its running fantastically well. It then stops running well because the engine needs replaced, you do it but can only really afford a cheaper volkswagon engine.

Would you expect the same performance?

***wookie70*** · 13-11-2018 02:47 PM

1. Celtic
2. Rangers
3. Aberdeen
4. Hearts
5. Killie
6. Hibs

Based on the season so far I think we will be 5th or 6th. I think we struggle to field a team with a shape that works at the moment and we have a soft centre and a manager that likes playing good football which will see you losing games that shouldn't be lost. The big unknown is the January window as we might get a couple of players in, like last season, that makes the shape and style of the team obvious. At the moment though Hearts, Killie and Aberdeen all play pragmatic football and due to the way games are refereed that tends to lead to decent results. I won't be too disappointed with 6th if we are playing with good style and banging in a few goals. Unfortunately, the last 3 games has seen us play a horrible brand of football and pick up a single point from 9.

**EH54** · 13-11-2018 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs

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Imagine you have just inherited your first car a mercedes, you run it for a year or two and its running fantastically well. It then stops running well because the engine needs replaced, you do it but can only really afford a cheaper volkswagon engine.

Would you expect the same performance?

Funny way of putting it, for me if we finish below Kilmarnock and hearts then it's lennons fault and totally unacceptable. He had a better start going into the window than hearts and Killie really and they are coping just fine, hearts obviously have had some rotten luck getting their best players injured at the same time. Last season I say anti climax because we were actually better than 4th place for me. But blew it at the end against Aberdeen, hearts and rangers, I thought we were better than all 3. It's a funny game football, if he finishes above them but behind the rangers and the sheep it's acceptable considering what we lost. Finishes above them in 2nd or 3rd he's done a remarkable job.

**hfc-1875** · 13-11-2018 03:51 PM

I still (for some reason) think we will finish 3rd or 4th this year.

Celtic
Rangers
Aberdeen
Us
Hearts
Killie.

**EH54** · 13-11-2018 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Keekaboo

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We only missed out on second in the last couple of games of the season. We finished 18 points ahead of Hearts, even though they'd already been back up for two seasons and have a much bigger budget than us.

We also gave Celtc the biggest challenge of any club in league games, with one win, two draws and one defeat, and received plaudits from many as the most entertaining side they'd watched.

Oh and we actually qualified for Europe, something we don't exactly do on a regular basis

But I suppose some people are just never happy.

I never said I wasn't happy? Looking at it overall it was good. But I expected at least 4th with our squad even at the start of the season tbh. Hearts were mince. Killie were a surprise package. Having seen us from January onwards we were much better than 4th and it was looking likely we were going to finish higher, untill we blew it in the last 3 games.

***J-C*** · 13-11-2018 05:18 PM

At this moment in time we look top 6 but only just, players will have to up their games and a good January will be needed if we want 4th again.

**hibbydog** · 13-11-2018 08:26 PM

I’m with the majority on here. We should have enough in our locker to finish above Livingston and St Johnstone.

Celtic and Sevco have far bigger budgets so will be out of reach. Meh.

Hearts are clearly a good side and will improve again once their injured players return. Sorry.

Aberdeen are physical and street wise and they know how to get a result.

Not much between us and Killie.

So 5th or 6th

**~~My_Wife_Camille~~** · 13-11-2018 08:36 PM

Celtic
Huns
Sheep
Killie
Hearts
Hibs

A good January could see us get 4th but imo 2nd or 3rd are already as good as gone

**MWHIBBIES** · 14-11-2018 12:20 AM

If an 8 point lead can be built over 13 games why cant it be reduced over 25?

We can easily still finish 3rd. or 2nd. I think Celtic will of course be too strong. Everything else very much up for grabs.

**MWHIBBIES** · 14-11-2018 12:21 AM

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I’m with the majority on here. We should have enough in our locker to finish above Livingston and St Johnstone.

Celtic and Sevco have far bigger budgets so will be out of reach. Meh.

Hearts are clearly a good side and will improve again once their injured players return. Sorry.

Aberdeen are physical and street wise and they know how to get a result.

Not much between us and Killie.

So 5th or 6th

Will Hibs not improve when we get our injured players back?

**Forza Fred** · 14-11-2018 02:10 AM

At the start of the season I predicted that we would finish behind
Celtic
Rangers
Aberdeen
Hearts.

I think Kilmarnock are in danger of being added to that list.

Yes, we WILL improve, but no doubt other clubs around us will also.

***Alex Trager*** · 14-11-2018 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by EH54

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If we finish outside the top 4 it's a shocking season. We always seem to be just behind the big boys rather than infront. Even last season was an anti climax and a shocker that we never finished higher than 4th. Shows how good a job Levein and Clarke have done/are doing considering the foundations we had in place when stubbs walked out the door. Should have been enough to create a gap between us and hearts for a couple of years at least. Lennon's responsibility for me and questioning his signings now tbh, and tactically the last few games. Maybe we just got lucky in January..

Hahaha