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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Ingram View Post
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    Chelsea won nothing with a 3-5-2. They played a 3-4-3 with Hazard and Willian on the wings, which meant the wing backs didn’t have sole responsibility for the flanks. Chelsea moved to 3-5-2 at the start of last season and their form fell off a cliff and they reverted back to 3-4-3.

    City use 3 at the back at home very occasionally against the cannon fodder who park the bus and they know won’t attack them. That’s not 3-5-2 either.

    Hibs were 2-1 down in the Scottish Cup Final playing 3-5-2 and won the game by taking off Liam Fontaine and replacing him a certain Liam Henderson.

    So your many teams that have success with a 3-5-2 appears only to be Juventus👍🏻
    The thread is titled 3 defenders 👍 all those teams have had success with 3 defenders 👍


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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    The thread is titled 3 defenders 👍 all those teams have had success with 3 defenders 👍
    I was replying to your post which said ‘Many teams had great success with 352.’

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Ingram View Post
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    I was replying to your post which said ‘Many teams had great success with 352.’
    Well okay, 352 and variants. It's a good formation that we played brilliantly with for months. Form of players doesn't change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Well okay, 352 and variants. It's a good formation that we played brilliantly with for months. Form of players doesn't change that.
    As I said in an earlier post, the entirety of the midfield 3 have left and they were massive contributors to that success. We wouldn’t have gone on a run like that with the 3 we have in there.

    We have won 1 league game this season that we have started with a 3-5-2 and that was Motherwell on the opening day.

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    352 is a good system if your wingbacks constantly beat their opponents to supply good service to the strikers. ours dont unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gmack7 View Post
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    352 is a good system if your wingbacks constantly beat their opponents to supply good service to the strikers. ours dont unfortunately
    Tbf, ours (Lewis & SDG) are great fullbacks but not wing backs and do not have the craft to fulfill the attacking side to any great effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Ingram View Post
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    As I said in an earlier post, the entirety of the midfield 3 have left and they were massive contributors to that success. We wouldn’t have gone on a run like that with the 3 we have in there.

    We have won 1 league game this season that we have started with a 3-5-2 and that was Motherwell on the opening day.
    So the formation is fine, Hibs execution of it isn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    So the formation is fine, Hibs execution of it isn't?
    Absolutely not. Hibs used it fairly well for 13 games from February and we won 7 of those games, which isn’t exactly brilliant.

    I’m just saying we were more effective than we are now with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Well okay, 352 and variants. It's a good formation that we played brilliantly with for months. Form of players doesn't change that.
    It worked ok because we had a superb midfield after January, our midfield this season is weak and lightweight and at the moment not good enough. Celtic have strolled the league with 4 at the back and I'm watching Man C beating United playing 4-3-3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyonhibs View Post
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    With a 4-4-2, which 2 do people play in CM out of interest?

    Let's assume everyone's fit. Mallan and Milligan?

    SDG needs to get fit rapido or Lennon needs to trust this Greek lad before him and Nelom disappear into the Never Never Land of "loan signings who made no difference whatsoever"
    Being pedantic neither of the two international fullbacks are on loan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    It worked ok because we had a superb midfield after January, our midfield this season is weak and lightweight and at the moment not good enough. Celtic have strolled the league with 4 at the back and I'm watching Man C beating United playing 4-3-3.
    What do Celtic and man city have to do with Hibs? Why would 433 work if midfield is our problem? It's the same midfield setup

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    What do Celtic and man city have to do with Hibs? Why would 433 work if midfield is our problem? It's the same midfield setup
    They're both winning teams who very very seldom play 3 at the back, it's become overly trendy to play this way but it only works when you have the personnel to do so. It suited us last year because Gray got injured and Boyle dropped back into wingback role, this allowed us to have 2 up top but we had an exceptional midfield also.
    4-3-3 works because it gives you a solid base at the back which most players are comfortable with, a midfield of Mallan, Milligan and Slivka should work with Boyle right, Horgan left and Kamberi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Because we our form last season after Christmas playing it was incredible?
    That's what I thought our best run of last season was with that system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    That's what I thought our best run of last season was with that system.
    As has been said several times on this thread, it was a completely different midfield.

    On top of that the way people talk about that period of form, ye'd think we'd won every game. We won 6 out of 12 playing that way. We beat Celtic playing a back 4.

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