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    First Minister's comments on NL abuse


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    Labour MSP James Kelly asked Ms Sturgeon whether she would join him in condemning "anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism", and called for the government to take urgent action against these "unacceptable attitudes".
    The First Minister replied: "I saw some of Neil Lennon's press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity.


    Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer.
    "I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry.
    "Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don't have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear."

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    Labour MSP James Kelly asked Ms Sturgeon whether she would join him in condemning "anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism", and called for the government to take urgent action against these "unacceptable attitudes".
    The First Minister replied: "I saw some of Neil Lennon's press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity.


    Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer.
    "I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry.
    "Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don't have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear."

    So will they take any any type of measures to stop this from happening again? Or is it just more rhetoric?

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    So will they take any any type of measures to stop this from happening again? Or is it just more rhetoric?
    Was just going to say the same. Its a pretty bold statement but what have the Scottish Government done about it to date?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weegreenman View Post
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    So will they take any any type of measures to stop this from happening again? Or is it just more rhetoric?
    There are already laws in place to take action , it's the Police who need to act on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    There are already laws in place to take action , it's the Police who need to act on it.
    How many got charged by the Police for sectarianism??
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    So will they take any any type of measures to stop this from happening again? Or is it just more rhetoric?
    ‘That kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland’ Aye right Nicola, I’m guessing you haven’t rocked up to many football grounds in your lifetime where either half of Rantic honour the home teams with their presence. It’s been happening for over a hundred years and will continue until a first minister hauls the head of the SFA in and demands ground closures and points docking from these two, and that’s just for starters. I strongly suspect that her speech today will be the start and end of her interest in this, no different from anyone else !!

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    So will they take any any type of measures to stop this from happening again? Or is it just more rhetoric?
    Of course it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elephant Stone View Post
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    Labour MSP James Kelly asked Ms Sturgeon whether she would join him in condemning "anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism", and called for the government to take urgent action against these "unacceptable attitudes".
    The First Minister replied: "I saw some of Neil Lennon's press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity.


    Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer.
    "I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry.
    "Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don't have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear."
    Is that the James Kelly that campaigned for the abolition
    of the OBFA?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GloryGlory View Post
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    Is that the James Kelly that campaigned for the abolition
    of the OBFA?
    Pretty sure it is, oh the irony.

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    Pretty sure it is, oh the irony.
    It’s not ironic at all. That bill didn’t do anything to stop sectarianism. ‘Offensive’ behaviour could be anything and found people getting arrested for standing up and shouting ‘**** off’ to a player. There are already powers there to deal with sectarianism that are not used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Pretty sure it is, oh the irony.

    Nah not really.

    OBFA was an absurd piece of legislation, a classic effort from politicians desperate to be seen to ‘do something’ without considereing unintended consequences.

    As said above, Scotland already has laws against this kind of abuse. What is needed is a determination to act upon them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloryGlory View Post
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    Is that the James Kelly that campaigned for the abolition
    of the OBFA?
    Epic brass neck there from the dimwitted james kelly



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    Labour MSP James Kelly asked Ms Sturgeon whether she would join him in condemning "anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism", and called for the government to take urgent action against these "unacceptable attitudes".
    The First Minister replied: "I saw some of Neil Lennon's press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity.


    Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer.
    "I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry.
    "Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don't have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear."
    So what action are they going to “continue to take”?

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    Labour MSP James Kelly asked Ms Sturgeon whether she would join him in condemning "anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism", and called for the government to take urgent action against these "unacceptable attitudes".
    The First Minister replied: "I saw some of Neil Lennon's press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity.


    Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer.
    "I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry.
    "Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don't have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear."
    So Nicola has a hibstv subscription ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not In The Know View Post
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    So Nicola has a hibstv subscription ;-)
    Maybe her hubby does who I think is a Hibby.

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    Heartening to hear that response from the First Mininster.

    Maybe Hibs should issue a similar statement in support of our Manager?

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    So Nicola has a hibstv subscription ;-)
    Her Husband is a Hibby.

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    I dont have any time for Sturgeon, but what she says is welcomed.

    Hibs I think are in a tricky position. Privately I am certain they will have had a word with Lennon about his conduct. While he didnt deserve what happened, he didnt exactly help matters. It is also not the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elephant Stone View Post
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    Labour MSP James Kelly asked Ms Sturgeon whether she would join him in condemning "anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism", and called for the government to take urgent action against these "unacceptable attitudes".
    The First Minister replied: "I saw some of Neil Lennon's press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity.


    Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer.
    "I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry.
    "Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don't have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear."
    Well said, now let's see some action

    Maybe they could introduce a law targetting sectarianism, and other unnaceptable behaviour, at football matches.

    Oh wait, they already did, and everybody criticised it endlessly...especially the Labour Party

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    "Continue" to take action.

    Same as the radio adverts a few months ago about there being no place in Scotland for Secteranism etc, just empty rhetoric at the moment as far as I can see.
    Mon the Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    Well said, now let's see some action

    Maybe they could introduce a law targetting sectarianism, and other unnaceptable behaviour, at football matches.

    Oh wait, they already did, and everybody criticised it endlessly...especially the Labour Party
    If was poorly though out legislation. It would have done nothing more to prevent some idiot throwing a coin than the current laws if enforced could.
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    Good on her. Strong, impressive words on it, and more than what any serious politician in Scotland has ever said to condemn anti Irish/catholic bigotry.

    We do need to see some action though.

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    Well said Nicola! No one deserves to get the grief Neil Lennon does.

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    Eureka. Right Nicola, words sorted. Deeds next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    Eureka. Right Nicola, words sorted. Deeds next?

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    Exactly. Talk is cheap. Action sorts stuff out.

    I’d have a bit more respect if she called out the SFA for silently condoning years and years of bigotry and doing next to nothing.

    Very disappointing, empty statements from a well respected leader. No actual specific proposals for what they’re going to do about it.

    It’ll end up with nothing happening. Yet again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbydog View Post
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    Exactly. Talk is cheap. Action sorts stuff out.

    I’d have a bit more respect if she called out the SFA for silently condoning years and years of bigotry and doing next to nothing.

    Very disappointing, empty statements from a well respected leader. No actual specific proposals for what they’re going to do about it.

    It’ll end up with nothing happening. Yet again.
    You get what you vote for

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbydog View Post
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    Exactly. Talk is cheap. Action sorts stuff out.

    I’d have a bit more respect if she called out the SFA for silently condoning years and years of bigotry and doing next to nothing.

    Very disappointing, empty statements from a well respected leader. No actual specific proposals for what they’re going to do about it.

    It’ll end up with nothing happening. Yet again.
    What do you suggest she "does"?

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