First Minister's comments on NL abuse

[Hibernia&Alba]

In relation to football, strict liability would make a big difference, as it does in Europe. When clubs are faced with fines, points docked or stand closures i.e. when it hits their bottom line, they will take the issue of sectarianism more seriously and fans will be much more cautious. UEFA don't stand for discrimination in the stands, nor should national associations. The great publicity such a move would engender may also help sending the message to wider society about the unacceptable nature of such behaviour: a knock on effect. This, in combination with a full on campaign in general society would make a significant impact. It's a difficult problem to eradicate; one which (as we know) requires long term strategies, but I think we would all agree that more needs to be done and we have a distance to travel yet before this national scourge is eradicated.

[JimBHibees]

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Nah not really.

OBFA was an absurd piece of legislation, a classic effort from politicians desperate to be seen to ‘do something’ without considereing unintended consequences.

As said above, Scotland already has laws against this kind of abuse. What is needed is a determination to act upon them.

The bold James Kelly was quick to pat himself on the back when act was repealed yet singularly seemed to be lacking in saying what should happen.

[JimBHibees]

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In relation to football, strict liability would make a big difference, as it does in Europe. When clubs are faced with fines, points docked or stand closures i.e. when it hits their bottom line, they will take the issue of sectarianism more seriously and fans will be much more cautious. UEFA don't stand for discrimination in the stands, nor should national associations. The great publicity such a move would engender may also help sending the message to wider society about the unacceptable nature of such behaviour: a knock on effect. This, in combination with a full on campaign in general society would make a significant impact. It's a difficult problem to eradicate; one which (as we know) requires long term strategies, but I think we would all agree that more needs to be done and we have a distance to travel yet before this national scourge is eradicated.

Totally agree that is exactly what needs to happen.

[itslegaltender]

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So Nicola has a hibstv subscription ;-)

Her Husband is a Hibby.

[Skol]

I dont have any time for Sturgeon, but what she says is welcomed.

Hibs I think are in a tricky position. Privately I am certain they will have had a word with Lennon about his conduct. While he didnt deserve what happened, he didnt exactly help matters. It is also not the first time.

[IGRIGI]

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I dont have any time for Sturgeon, but what she says is welcomed.

Hibs I think are in a tricky position. Privately I am certain they will have had a word with Lennon about his conduct. While he didnt deserve what happened, he didnt exactly help matters. It is also not the first time.

If I was Lennon and Hibs had a word with me on my conduct and stayed silent on the sectarian abuse I wouldn't wait a second on telling them to take the job and shove it.

[Skol]

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If I was Lennon and Hibs had a word with me on my conduct and stayed silent on the sectarian abuse I wouldn't wait a second on telling them to take the job and shove it.

When did throwing a coin become sectarian ?

OK I get there was sectarian shouting and abuse going on, but that is hearts problem to deal with

[lapsedhibee]

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If I was Lennon and Hibs had a word with me on my conduct and stayed silent on the sectarian abuse I wouldn't wait a second on telling them to take the job and shove it.

[Stonewall]

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If I was Lennon and Hibs had a word with me on my conduct and stayed silent on the sectarian abuse I wouldn't wait a second on telling them to take the job and shove it.

Maybe Lennon doesn’t want the club to make a statement.

If, as has been suggested, part of the reason he was unsettled was that he felt he was becoming the story then the club issuing a statement would only serve to prolong the issue.

[hibsbollah]

I've never voted SNP, but Sturgeon always seems to hit the right rhetorical buttons and says exactly what needs to be said in a statesmanlike way. I felt exactly the same when she did the 'scotland welcomes you' speech about immigrants.

[The Harp Awakes]

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I've never voted SNP, but Sturgeon always seems to hit the right rhetorical buttons and says exactly what needs to be said in a statesmanlike way. I felt exactly the same when she did the 'scotland welcomes you' speech about immigrants.

Politics is partisan, and many will refuse to acknowledge talent because of that. IMO Nicola is a very impressive First Minister and leader. Other comments made; action not words are valid, but at least she's got the guts and determination to speak out against sectarianism and to do so in a very eloquent way. Meanwhile the football authorities do SFA.

[JimBHibees]

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Politics is partisan, and many will refuse to acknowledge talent because of that. IMO Nicola is a very impressive First Minister and leader. Other comments made; action not words are valid, but at least she's got the guts and determination to speak out against sectarianism and to do so in a very eloquent way. Meanwhile the football authorities do SFA.

Totally agree.

[Lago]

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I dont have any time for Sturgeon, but what she says is welcomed.

Hibs I think are in a tricky position. Privately I am certain they will have had a word with Lennon about his conduct. While he didnt deserve what happened, he didnt exactly help matters. It is also not the first time.

Frankly, most if not all Politicians say what they think will make them popular with the electorate, Sturgeon is very good at that, thinks she's the Eva Peron of Scotland in my opinion.

[The Harp Awakes]

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Frankly, most if not all Politicians say what they think will make them popular with the electorate, Sturgeon is very good at that, thinks she's the Eva Peron of Scotland in my opinion.

The difference here is that I don't think there is a lot in it for her politically to speak out about sectarianism. The Rangers minded hoards will be cursing her as a Papal conspirator.

[Godsahibby]

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Sounds reasonable, but it would have more impact if it included players from all SPL clubs.

Should football clubs have any social accountability? If you believe so then a joint effort would send out a powerful message to the haters.

I think you have misquoted and missed the point of my post. The first line was about the club taking a stance and banning away fans if their was issues. I said that wouldn’t happen. Let’s be honest the player displays and the quotes in the press while good to hear and sends out a message really does little difference.

[JimBHibees]

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Frankly, most if not all Politicians say what they think will make them popular with the electorate, Sturgeon is very good at that, thinks she's the Eva Peron of Scotland in my opinion.

[hibbydog]

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Politics is partisan, and many will refuse to acknowledge talent because of that. IMO Nicola is a very impressive First Minister and leader. Other comments made; action not words are valid, but at least she's got the guts and determination to speak out against sectarianism and to do so in a very eloquent way. Meanwhile the football authorities do SFA.

Ach it’s just words. Actions (or at least the promise of some actions) would have been better.

I don’t really think it took much courage to stand up and condemn racism like she did. It’s a view held by many. It takes more guts to stand up and air an opinion when you’re in the minority.

Sturgeon didn’t got anywhere near far enough and has missed an opportunity to take a stand.

Pains me to say it, but the actions of Ann Budge have shown more courage and leadership following this debacle.

[lapsedhibee]

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Ach it’s just words. Actions (or at least the promise of some actions) would have been better.

I don’t really think it took much courage to stand up and condemn racism like she did. It’s a view held by many. It takes more guts to stand up and air an opinion when you’re in the minority.

Sturgeon didn’t got anywhere near far enough and has missed an opportunity to take a stand.

Pains me to say it, but the actions of Ann Budge have shown more courage and leadership following this debacle.

Do you mean her statement, rather than her actions?

[Lago]

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The difference here is that I don't think there is a lot in it for her politically to speak out about sectarianism. The Rangers minded hoards will be cursing her as a Papal conspirator.

Fair point.

[Lago]

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[Iggy Pope]

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If I was Lennon and Hibs had a word with me on my conduct and stayed silent on the sectarian abuse I wouldn't wait a second on telling them to take the job and shove it.

His interview / press conference is widely available on the official media platform provided by the club.
Let the hystericals continue with their bloody ‘statements’.