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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    Just that safety is a bit further down the list of priorities than meeting budgets, targets etc.

    Look at the "never events" that happen in hospitals etc compared to the aviation industry.

    The aviation industry is held up as something to aspire to within healthcare, as they know they can and should do better.
    That's hardly the fault of the NHS or those who work in it. Responsibility lies with the politicians of all parties for setting those targets and not providing sufficient funds to meet them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frazeHFC View Post
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    The owner and his daughter on board, along with 2 pilots and an unidentified fifth person, according to sky news.
    Dreadful news...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan69 View Post
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    So the Doctors and nurses are pretty unprofessional then?

    Certainly hope you dont need their excellent help anytime soon.
    They're hugely professional, and are too often let down by not having access to the resources they need to do their jobs to the best of their ability.

    Their professionalism and dedication has papered over too many cracks for too long.

    It tends to be doctors and nurses who hold opinions like mine in an effort to improve services.

    I also hope that I don't need their help any time soon, and I hope that when I do the service is of a high standard. That doesn't tend to be the case when an institution is immune to criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrie View Post
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    That's hardly the fault of the NHS or those who work in it. Responsibility lies with the politicians of all parties for setting those targets and not providing sufficient funds to meet them.
    Precisely.

    Which is why I am critical of it as an institution rather than pointing at any individuals who work within it.

    The aviation industry isn't underfunded, it takes safety more seriously than any other industry and is an example to all others.

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    Absolute tragedy. Heart goes out to all affected.
    Wild horses would not get me in a helicopter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaimendhibs View Post
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    Absolute tragedy. Heart goes out to all affected.
    Wild horses would not get me in a helicopter.

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    Wish I could say the same. 16 flights a year and although I don't personally know anyone who's died in a crash, I do know people who have lost friends and family. Scary machines indeed.

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    Complete tragedy for this to happen, obviously they haven't announced much more information with the exception that the chairman, his daughter and 3 other people were on board but in all honesty it doesnt look like there would be any survivors in this accident. It Was quite harrowing watching the video on sky news of the helicopter on fire knowing potentially there would be people inside

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    I think the fact local hospitals haven’t released any statements saying they are responding to the incident, treating the injured, etc. is pretty telling in terms of there being survivors. You usually get one of those statements pretty quickly after a major incident like this.

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    Bit ott to drag nhs into this thread about the helicopter incident.Lots of people have been treated and looked after by nhs.

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    Dreadful that 5 lives were lost but quite amazing that no-one on the ground was killed given the location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by staunchhibby View Post
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    Bit ott to drag nhs into this thread about the helicopter incident.Lots of people have been treated and looked after by nhs.
    That’s not up for debate. The comparison being made was perfectly valid imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seveno View Post
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    Dreadful that 5 lives were lost but quite amazing that no-one on the ground was killed given the location.
    Totally agree very sad as the crash is for those involved this could easily have been so much worse given the number of people who would have been in the area at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Totally agree very sad as the crash is for those involved this could easily have been so much worse given the number of people who would have been in the area at the time.
    Agreed, I wonder if the pilot managed to avert a bigger disaster or it was just good fortune in relation to further casualties where it actually came down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by staunchhibby View Post
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    Bit ott to drag nhs into this thread about the helicopter incident.Lots of people have been treated and looked after by nhs.


    i've had 2 operations with the NHS, can't thank them enough, never had any issue personally with them

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    Awful indeed, no word as of yet on any deaths or what their conditions are but it doesn't look good.

    Thoughts to all the families and everyone connected to LCFC. Puts everything into perspective really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    The aviation industry takes safety very seriously.

    Whilst there are still accidents and the odd nutter, they almost never cut corners so I agree that this is most likely nonsense.

    Billionaires tend to be a bit smarter than to say "aye, f***k it" when asked if they want to travel in a dodgy helicopter.

    If the NHS were in charge of the aviation industry planes would fall out of the sky every 5 minutes.
    WTF???? That's a ridiculous and completely inappropriate comment.

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    Confirmed that five died in the crash including the owner.

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    Owner died along with four others. Just confirmed by Leicester.

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    Owner died along with four others. Just confirmed by Leicester.
    Sad stuff, never had a chance.

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    Horrible horrible news.

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    All five now named, though apparently not yet all been formally identified.

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    What now for Leicester? I think they’re trying to cancel their game against Southampton in midweek and they’ve got Cardiff away next week. I can see this having a massive effect on them.

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    Terrible news , a club that gave everyone hope. A few years ago everyone was willing them on to win cause it was a great story


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