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    After seeing quite alot of negativity over the weekend with people saying players aren't good enough and we'll struggle to hit the heights of last season - it's still a significant improvement on last season. We are scoring more, conceding less and this is without Mcginn and Mcgeouch in our midfield.

    Once we finally get to field our best XI including the likes of Gray, Hanlon and Macca we will better last season. Livingston will soon drop off, Killie will drop points and so will Hearts. Celtic and Rangers are both very strong but on our A game we can more than compete with both. We're in for another exciting season.

    Obvsiously Saturday was dissapointing and we only turned up second half - taking points from the PBS is vital. But I think some would have a different mind set on our start to the season if Hearts weren't top.

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    Away with your positive nonsense 😂🤣

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    Saturday was naturally disappointing after several wins on the bounce. But the above is great to show how the club are moving forward.

    My only concern this season is Hearts, Sevco and Killie are all much improved and throw Livi into the mix and the competition for top spots is a lot tougher.

    Even if we are better than last year we might still find ourselves further down the table.

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    An indication of the scale of the improvement is the scale of the disappointment at not beating Celtic in Glasgow.

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    Saturday was naturally disappointing after several wins on the bounce. But the above is great to show how the club are moving forward.

    My only concern this season is Hearts, Sevco and Killie are all much improved and throw Livi into the mix and the competition for top spots is a lot tougher.

    Even if we are better than last year we might still find ourselves further down the table.
    But Aberdeen are noticeably worse. Out of the 3 who finished above us last season, that's one gone already. IMO, I don't think we will finish below anyone who finished below us last season. Onwards and upwards for us

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    Saturday was naturally disappointing after several wins on the bounce. But the above is great to show how the club are moving forward.

    My only concern this season is Hearts, Sevco and Killie are all much improved and throw Livi into the mix and the competition for top spots is a lot tougher.

    Even if we are better than last year we might still find ourselves further down the table.
    IMO we shouldn’t find ourselves any lower than last year.

    Aberdeen aren’t anywhere near as strong as they were and I think we will finish above Killie and Livi.

    Depending on Hearts result tomorrow night, the derby could take on even more importance in terms of catching them though. They could potentially go 11 in front of us and that would be tough to turn round IMO. Can’t be letting it happen.

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    IMO we shouldn’t find ourselves any lower than last year.

    Aberdeen aren’t anywhere near as strong as they were and I think we will finish above Killie and Livi.

    Depending on Hearts result tomorrow night, the derby could take on even more importance in terms of catching them though. They could potentially go 11 in front of us and that would be tough to turn round IMO. Can’t be letting it happen.
    All very true but Hearts will have had Celtic, Hibs and Aberdeen at home and also haven’t had the privilege of playing on that pitch at Livi yet, who they could only draw with at Tynie. They lost their only big away game at Ibrox and caught Celtic at home off the back of a European tie. They’ve had a good run of fixtures to get in that position so may be a bit different in the second quarter of fixtures.

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    Hibs were good on Saturday. Celtic were exceptional. We'd have crushed any other team.

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    Saturday was unfortunate.

    We outplayed Celtc last season with a 4-4-2 set up (albeit SJM and Dylan were in heroic form) but no Gray or Hanlon meant we had to reshuffle the pack.

    Clearly Whittaker is not trusted at right back. Maybe if Harry had been fit we would have started with him at right back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alihibs1 View Post
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    After seeing quite alot of negativity over the weekend with people saying players aren't good enough and we'll struggle to hit the heights of last season - it's still a significant improvement on last season. We are scoring more, conceding less and this is without Mcginn and Mcgeouch in our midfield.

    Once we finally get to field our best XI including the likes of Gray, Hanlon and Macca we will better last season. Livingston will soon drop off, Killie will drop points and so will Hearts. Celtic and Rangers are both very strong but on our A game we can more than compete with both. We're in for another exciting season.

    Obvsiously Saturday was dissapointing and we only turned up second half - taking points from the PBS is vital. But I think some would have a different mind set on our start to the season if Hearts weren't top.

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    We’ve had a very good start to the season all things considered, especially having to contend with a European run along with a lot of injuries with the big disappointment being losing in the cup QF.

    I do have to laugh though when so many people tell everyone about how Livi and Killie will fall away, Hearts will drop points etc but never mention that we could also do that. Hopefully we won’t but people are kidding themselves on if they think Hearts especially are going to collapse. They’ll pick up enough points at home to be there or thereabouts at the end of the season on top of what they’ve already picked up.

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    Celtic were slow to get going this season but when you consider the resources that they, it's a credit to Hibs that we consistently give them more of a game than most teams while still playing good football. The league is more competitive this season and we could conceivably improve but still finish 4th.

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    We could still do with a dynamic, physical midfielder. Mallan hasn't got the tools for that yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500miles View Post
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    We could still do with a dynamic, physical midfielder. Mallan hasn't got the tools for that yet.

    Yep, all he does is score goals.

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    I'm amazed anyone is downbeat about the current squad (seen plenty of that across various forums) Barring injuries it's a top 3 finish

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    IMO we shouldn’t find ourselves any lower than last year.

    Aberdeen aren’t anywhere near as strong as they were and I think we will finish above Killie and Livi.

    Depending on Hearts result tomorrow night, the derby could take on even more importance in terms of catching them though. They could potentially go 11 in front of us and that would be tough to turn round IMO. Can’t be letting it happen.
    All very true but Hearts will have had Celtic, Hibs and Aberdeen at home and also haven’t had the privilege of playing on that pitch at Livi yet, who they could only draw with at Tynie. They lost their only big away game at Ibrox and caught Celtic at home off the back of a European tie. They’ve had a good run of fixtures to get in that position so may be a bit different in the second quarter of fixtures.

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    We have a cracking team just now with a cracking manager. Don’t think many are complaining though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    We have a cracking team just now with a cracking manager. Don’t think many are complaining though.


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    Just shows you how far we have come that we are disappointed losing to what was a very good Celtic performance. Wasn't that long ago where losing 4 goals and scoring two at Parkhead would be classed as a good day out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    Yep, all he does is score goals.
    And fromoutside the Box and Freekicks Am fed up seeing them fly in FFS
    We have been crying out for a player like him ,and now we have him folk want to pick holes in his game He is still young and improving Outr problem will be hanging on to him A cert to score 20 goals from midfield in all competitions When did we last have that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    Yep, all he does is score goals.
    Did I say I'd take him out the team like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronniekirk View Post
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    And fromoutside the Box and Freekicks Am fed up seeing them fly in FFS
    We have been crying out for a player like him ,and now we have him folk want to pick holes in his game He is still young and improving Outr problem will be hanging on to him A cert to score 20 goals from midfield in all competitions When did we last have that ?
    So keep him in the team. But Hyndman and Slivka may not be the answer to completing the ideal midfield trio with Mallan and Milligan.

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    I might be sugarcoating a bit, but if you exclude the first 20 mins of the game where we set up shop a bit wrong, the final 70 mins was 2-2 against an on form Celtic on their home turf. They've only conceded 3 goals at home so far in the league, 2 of them from us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZ Green View Post
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    I might be sugarcoating a bit, but if you exclude the first 20 mins of the game where we set up shop a bit wrong, the final 70 mins was 2-2 against an on form Celtic on their home turf. They've only conceded 3 goals at home so far in the league, 2 of them from us.
    Sounds a bit Ian Cathrine-esque

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    Team is more than epuiped to finish 2nd.

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    We’re doing better than last season and have a better squad too.

    We will finish with more points and be much closer to the league winners at the end as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    IMO we shouldn’t find ourselves any lower than last year.

    Aberdeen aren’t anywhere near as strong as they were and I think we will finish above Killie and Livi.

    Depending on Hearts result tomorrow night, the derby could take on even more importance in terms of catching them though. They could potentially go 11 in front of us and that would be tough to turn round IMO. Can’t be letting it happen.
    This is same repetitive chronic patter I hear from many on this. When the fact is pointed out that we are doing better than the season before, people for some reason like to put it down to the fact the opposition aren't as strong. The same nonsense is spouted when comparing Lennons team who got promoted to stubbs team that never.

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    This is same repetitive chronic patter I hear from many on this. When the fact is pointed out that we are doing better than the season before, people for some reason like to put it down to the fact the opposition aren't as strong. The same nonsense is spouted when comparing Lennons team who got promoted to stubbs team that never.
    Chronic patter? Have a word.

    I said I think we’ll finish in the top four at least. I’m no sure how that translates to chronic patter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronniekirk View Post
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    And fromoutside the Box and Freekicks Am fed up seeing them fly in FFS
    We have been crying out for a player like him ,and now we have him folk want to pick holes in his game He is still young and improving Outr problem will be hanging on to him A cert to score 20 goals from midfield in all competitions When did we last have that ?
    I don't understand this attitude. I certainly haven't heard anyone say he's crap.

    Mallan is a great asset but like all of our players he's not perfect, we therefore need to play midfielders who complement each others' game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy View Post
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    I don't understand this attitude. I certainly haven't heard anyone say he's crap.

    Mallan is a great asset but like all of our players he's not perfect, we therefore need to play midfielders who complement each others' game.
    He is a great asset going forward as is Horgan and Hyndman. That leaves Milligan for the defensive side which may work against the teams where we have huge amounts of possession but is a dangerous game against Celtic. Lennon hasn't quite got the formula for our midfield, yet, and the injuries haven't helped.

    Mallan has been a great acquisition but his defensive game is poor. He lets runners go far too often and he needs to improve that side of his game. The good news is he has the talent which is difficult to learn and now just needs to settle into the position he is playing which is more defensive that he has probably been used to.

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    Our difficulty is in our defensive capabilities with both Mallan and Hyndman too readily not tracking runs, not putting a tackle in and not even positioning themselves properly ...Horgan does too an extent but is weak in his efforts ...so we need someone with a bit of attacking ability and some physical presence to take up probably the Hyndman position and we will see further improvement on where we are ..!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacoluna View Post
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    This is same repetitive chronic patter I hear from many on this. When the fact is pointed out that we are doing better than the season before, people for some reason like to put it down to the fact the opposition aren't as strong. The same nonsense is spouted when comparing Lennons team who got promoted to stubbs team that never.

    We had a slow start last season, largely because we shipped a lot of goals.

    I’d be unhappy if we weren’t doing better this campaign.

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