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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    There is a 7 minute recording of him being tortured to death picked up by Turkish investigators.
    But no proof?

    Witnesses?

    Can one tell from a sound recording whether someone has been killed?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    Who are these 2 senior Russian military operatives? We seen pictures of 2 people at an airport. That's apparently the "evidence" that the Russian State was involved.
    Their names, rank, aliases and a host of other information is pretty widely available across a whole range of traditional and new media.

    I'm sure you know that though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    Who are these 2 senior Russian military operatives? We seen pictures of 2 people at an airport. That's apparently the "evidence" that the Russian State was involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    So who do you think did it, if it was not the Russians?
    I dont claim to know who was responsible. The sheer lack of evidence being provided on the matter makes that impossible. All I know is that we're told that the Russian State was involved. Without any actual evidence to suggest that they were. Just pictures of 2 people who we are being told (without evidence) are agents of the Russian State.

    It's quite incredible what people accept as evidence these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    I dont claim to know who was responsible. The sheer lack of evidence being provided on the matter makes that impossible. All I know is that we're told that the Russian State was involved. Without any actual evidence to suggest that they were. Just pictures of 2 people who we are being told (without evidence) are agents of the Russian State.

    It's quite incredible what people accept as evidence these days.
    ..like an alleged sound recording?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    I dont claim to know who was responsible. The sheer lack of evidence being provided on the matter makes that impossible. All I know is that we're told that the Russian State was involved. Without any actual evidence to suggest that they were. Just pictures of 2 people who we are being told (without evidence) are agents of the Russian State.

    It's quite incredible what people accept as evidence these days.
    So have you heard the sound recording and have evidence that confirms it was the journalist? Why are you so willing to believe that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archi...-not-boshirov/

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    Craig Murray. Well your pulling out aces now, if only you had quoted him earlier I could have saved myself the embarrassment of questioning it. But if Craig says it's true, then it must be.

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    Craig Murray. Well your pulling out aces now, if only you had quoted him earlier I could have saved myself the embarrassment of questioning it. But if Craig says it's true, then it must be.
    Translation "Craig Murray supports independence so I have to dislike him"

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    Translation "Craig Murray supports independence so I have to dislike him"
    No, do you believe him in this case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGRIGI View Post
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    Translation "Craig Murray supports independence so I have to dislike him"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    Craig Murray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Just shining a light on this rare green-blue alliance.
    I don't know what the colour of the 'they're currently all horses *****' political perspective is but you can add me into that alliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    I don't know what the colour of the 'they're currently all horses *****' political perspective is but you can add me into that alliance.
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    What happened to the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Whathappenedtothebody.
    Is there not video of a van entering and then leaving the embassy around about the same time he went missing? Probably in there.

    What I don't get is why he thought it would be a good idea to turn up on his own at the embassy in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH1875 View Post
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    Is there not video of a van entering and then leaving the embassy around about the same time he went missing? Probably in there.

    What I don't get is why he thought it would be a good idea to turn up on his own at the embassy in the first place.
    Think he needed documents to enable him to get married, might not have thought it was a good idea but may have assumed that it was safe in that the Saudi regime would not stoop to the depths of murder. Sadly for him he was wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs Class View Post
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    Think he needed documents to enable him to get married, might not have thought it was a good idea but may have assumed that it was safe in that the Saudi regime would not stoop to the depths of murder. Sadly for him he was wrong.
    Agreed. A move that even he wouldn’t have expected.

    Amazingly ham fisted stuff from the Saudi’s, made all the more intriguing with the Turkish claims and he mysterious alleged recordings.

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    He was in exile and knew they had it in for him. He defo wasn't expecting murder but still find it strange he turned up on his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH1875 View Post
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    He was in exile and knew they had it in for him. He defo wasn't expecting murder but still find it strange he turned up on his own.
    I heard not long after he had disappeared that you have to go in on your own to the embassy and aren't allowed company.
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    He was in exile and knew they had it in for him. He defo wasn't expecting murder but still find it strange he turned up on his own.
    I think he turned up with his partner who was left waiting for him outside.

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