Scotland v Portugal Predictions

**B.H.F.C** · 14-10-2018 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by one day maybe...

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100% correct McLeish is a dinosaur who should have been no where near that job

I don’t even think being a dinosaur is the biggest issue. There are plenty of managers out there who get called that but still manage to get players playing for them. He can’t even get some of them to turn up!

***bingo70*** · 14-10-2018 05:44 PM

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Don’t want to be nasty but is Mcliesh all in looks a bit lost

Said similar after the Israel game.

I’ve nothing against Mcleish, he seems like a good guy and I don’t doubt he knows his football, he just shouldn’t be managing any more.

**MWHIBBIES** · 14-10-2018 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by bingo70

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Another totally pointless friendly.

Genuine question but who picks these games? Surely Mcleish wouldn’t have thanked the SFA for organising these matches.

Only pointless if you lose like this. Good chance to experiment, try something new and interesting, get guys some confidence vs a decent side (nothing special, lot of 3rd choice players in there for Portugal) totally wasted.

***mutley*** · 14-10-2018 05:45 PM

3-0, whoever said it would be 4-0 might be right yet!

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***green day*** · 14-10-2018 05:45 PM

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He should be nowhere near the squad. Way out of his depth.

He is barely ready to play for Celtic, never mind Scotland - makes you wonder whos making these choices?

***brog*** · 14-10-2018 05:46 PM

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Armstrong has played in 5 Premier League games for Southampton not 1.

I don't think he's started since game 1.

**Lago** · 14-10-2018 05:47 PM

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I don't think he's started since game 1.

Your correct

**KingFranck** · 14-10-2018 05:47 PM

How did McBurnie last so long he was terrible and they have Russell on the bench and don’t use him ?
Hendry is a joke for Celtic and should be nowhere near the national team. They’d be better promoting Porteous to the first team.

***Allant1981*** · 14-10-2018 05:47 PM

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He is barely ready to play for Celtic, never mind Scotland - makes you wonder whos making these choices?

exactly, he is no better than porteous for example but because he plays for celtic gets more attention

***bingo70*** · 14-10-2018 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

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Only pointless if you lose like this. Good chance to experiment, try something new and interesting, get guys some confidence vs a decent side (nothing special, lot of 3rd choice players in there for Portugal) totally wasted.

Completely disagree.

What experiment will we have learned from tonight? Anything that didn’t work will be put down to them being one of the best sides in Europe.

How would getting pumped, as was always likely, be good for their confidence?

**Sir David Gray** · 14-10-2018 05:49 PM

3-1, Naismith

***cabbageandribs1875*** · 14-10-2018 05:50 PM

3-1 game on

***tamig*** · 14-10-2018 05:52 PM

Johnny Russell has a game on Thursday against Vancouver. If McLeish didn’t intend using him today, why did he not let him go home early? Bad management imo.

***J-C*** · 14-10-2018 05:52 PM

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exactly, he is no better than porteous for example but because he plays for celtic gets more attention

He's not half the players Porteous or Hanlon are, shocking selection of defenders who are not fit to put a Scotland jersey on, until we get rid of the SFA dinosaurs and get some forward thinking going we'll be struggling for years to come.

**MWHIBBIES** · 14-10-2018 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by bingo70

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Completely disagree.

What experiment will we have learned from tonight? Anything that didn’t work will be put down to them being one of the best sides in Europe.

How would getting pumped, as was always likely, be good for their confidence?

It's a 2rd/3rd choice Portugal team. They aren't one of the best sides in Europe. Scotland should be able to give them a much better game.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 14-10-2018 05:55 PM

I have stuck up for us over the years, and i still want us to do well, but we are a shambles just now. We are so bad at retaining the ball, have little drive or penetration from midfield, which resorts in our forwards living of scraps.

Saying that we dont really have many decent forwards anyway, and then we have to talk about that defence which is as poor as i can remember.

We all could pick a team of different players, but in reality they are just similar types with similar qualities.

To sum up, we dont have enough good players at this level anymore, i do think a proper manager might be able to get a little more out of what we have, but it does look grim for us and i dont see this changing for a while.

**Halifaxhibby** · 14-10-2018 05:56 PM

Hard to find anything decent to say about that performance. Tbh it looks like the players don't like or have no faith in big eck's selection/tactics. Dreary stuff.

**DetroitHibs** · 14-10-2018 05:57 PM

David Moyes would be my choice next.

**B.H.F.C** · 14-10-2018 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by DetroitHibs

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David Moyes would be my choice next.

He’s done nothing for years to merit the job.

It needs some fresh thinking. But that goes for the SFA in general, not just the manager. Problems go a lot deeper than the manager.

***BoomtownHibees*** · 14-10-2018 06:09 PM

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Portugal -2, 6/1 your cash

FFS. Wee Hearts ****

**~~cleanyman~~** · 14-10-2018 06:16 PM

McLeish is finished.

He's not helping himself either. Stick with the best goalie in the country. Enough of this rotation pish.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 14-10-2018 06:22 PM

GJP thought it was a good performance?

FFS i know he cant say we were sheite, but he's kidding nobody with that pish.

***Keith_M*** · 14-10-2018 06:28 PM

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GJP thought it was a good performance?

FFS i know he cant say we were sheite, but he's kidding nobody with that pish.

Surely not!?

***bingo70*** · 14-10-2018 06:31 PM

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David Moyes would be my choice next.

Best reason for appointing him is he’s currently unemployment, surely to be national manager you need to be offering more than that?

Mcleish is clearly not the right man for the job, not because of tonight’s performance, that was inevitable, he just clearly isn’t the right person for the job. Should never have got the job in the first place and it’s been clear since he’s not up to it.

I don’t know who his replacement should be but I also don’t trust the SFA to find the right person.

**HUTCHYHIBBY** · 14-10-2018 06:34 PM

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McLeish is finished.

Scottish surely! 😁

***Keith_M*** · 14-10-2018 06:38 PM

What's Dick Advocaat up to nowadays?

***tamig*** · 14-10-2018 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by B.H.F.C

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He’s done nothing for years to merit the job.

It needs some fresh thinking. But that goes for the SFA in general, not just the manager. Problems go a lot deeper than the manager.

Exactly. Another of yesterday’s men who’s done nowt in the game for years. The same old names get plucked off the merrygoround by so many people. We need something different but the SFA don’t really do fresh thinking. Big change required before we can move on.

**DetroitHibs** · 14-10-2018 06:44 PM

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Best reason for appointing him is he’s currently unemployment, surely to be national manager you need to be offering more than that?

Mcleish is clearly not the right man for the job, not because of tonight’s performance, that was inevitable, he just clearly isn’t the right person for the job. Should never have got the job in the first place and it’s been clear since he’s not up to it.

I don’t know who his replacement should be but I also don’t trust the SFA to find the right person.

We've got to be realistic. Which decent employed manager would leave his job and manage Scotland? Let's say for arguments sake that Lennon is offered the job. It would be career suicide to take the job. Stay at Hibs and build your reputation or take the Scotland job and more than likely fail. A younger manager probably won't fancy it, so your left with mostly unemployed older managers. I don't think Moyes would be a terrible appointment, I'd also have Bilic on the shortlist too.

***brog*** · 14-10-2018 06:45 PM

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It's a 2rd/3rd choice Portugal team. They aren't one of the best sides in Europe. Scotland should be able to give them a much better game.

Marshall, Bardsley, Cooper, Paterson, Douglas, Morrison, McArthur, Cairney, Fraser, Phillips, Ritchie. subs, Archer, Hanley, Bridcutt, Bannan, Snodgrass, Both Fletchers. That's a team from top 2 divisions of English football who had no involvement in our last few games. Add in LG, SJM, Tierney, Robertson, both McGregors, McTominay, McDonald & that's a far deeper talent pool IMO than anything available to N Ireland, Wales or Ireland so 1) why aren't many of these playing & 2) why are we under achieving? A top manager could produce a decent team from the players available. PS, I know some have "retired" from Scotland duty, again, why?