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    Amy Winehouse hologram tour

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-45833293

    What do people think about this idea?

    I'd have loved to have bee in the same room as Amy Winehouse when she was singing, and although it's a bit strange, the prospect of her appearing onstage posthumously still has it's attractions.

    I'd be interested to hear the views of my esteemed Holy Ground inhabitants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-45833293

    What do people think about this idea?

    I'd have loved to have bee in the same room as Amy Winehouse when she was singing, and although it's a bit strange, the prospect of her appearing onstage posthumously still has it's attractions.

    I'd be interested to hear the views of my esteemed Holy Ground inhabitants.
    I was lucky enough to have seen her at T in the Park at Balado early in her career.
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    I'd never really listened to her music until after she'd passed away, then I realised I really liked it.

    Having seen the holographic thing (Frank sinatra) previously, on TV to be fair... I'd be worried it would be a wee bit too ghostly looking . On the other hand I'd happily watch a decent cgi film. Then again that's probably defeating the purpose.

    Maybe when VR improves we'll all go to a venue and stick glasses on and feel like we're "there" with whoever and wherever is on the bill.


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    I love my live music, and one of the reasons for that is its unpredictability, the notion that something can be a car-crash one minute and sublime the next. I'm not keen on slick and well-rehearsed gigs, where you know your night is exactly the same as the last 67.

    I adore Amy, and would have loved to have seen her. But seeing her as a hologram.... the same every single night.... for me would be much the same as sticking on a DVD with mega- surround sound.

    I'll stick with Amy Goes to Dingle


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    Gimmick.

    She is dead. There is no getting away from that.

    Far better to support a live musician doing the hard touring than a hologram that doesn't feel it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    I was lucky enough to have seen her at T in the Park at Balado early in her career.
    I saw her live later in her career and it was one of the most tragic things I've ever seen. It felt awful to be part of it - she was tottering about on stage in no fit state to be performing for anyone and it felt for all the world like she was a cash cow that people were hell-bent on wringing as much money as possibly out of whilst they still could. They've clearly found another way to continue wringing cash out of her even after her death.

    The "classic albums" that is currently on the BBC I-player is well worth a watch.
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    Horrific, her (caring) father will be delighted with proceeds to the Mitch Winehouse foundation.
    I'll maybe send my own hologram to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilson View Post
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    Gimmick.

    She is dead. There is no getting away from that.

    Far better to support a live musician doing the hard touring than a hologram that doesn't feel it.
    I go to loads of gigs.
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    I saw her at TITP at the height of her career and it was funny/embarrassing at the time, but pretty sad looking back on it. She mustíve knocked back 5-6 drinks during her set and needed a backing singer to help her get her coat off.


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    Who is this benefiting apart from those who profit? A recoreded voice onto a 3d/holograpic film....imo a bit early and a bit ghoulish....sheís not appearing onstage
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    It's the way forward - not just for dead people!

    A concert in one venue could be transmitted to any number of venues around the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalianwanda View Post
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    Who is this benefiting apart from those who profit? A recoreded voice onto a 3d/holograpic film....imo a bit early and a bit ghoulish....sheís not appearing onstage
    Profits go to the Amy Winehouse Foundation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    It's the way forward - not just for dead people!

    A concert in one venue could be transmitted to any number of venues around the world.
    You mean, like television?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    You mean, like television?

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    I don't think it will be long before similar is available for use in the home. As when TVs, then colour TVs and videos were introduced they will be very expensive and only your posh neighbour will have one but it will happen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    I don't think it will be long before similar is available for use in the home. As when TVs, then colour TVs and videos were introduced they will be very expensive and only your posh neighbour will have one but it will happen!
    Itís here already via VR headsets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    I don't think it will be long before similar is available for use in the home. As when TVs, then colour TVs and videos were introduced they will be very expensive and only your posh neighbour will have one but it will happen!
    Unless it comes with beer being spilled over you, 30 degree temperatures, the smell of stale sweat and the biggest guy in the place standing in front of you, it will never replace the real thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Itís here already via VR headsets.
    I've just got one, it's amazballs! I've recently got a 360 camera too. Too early yet to say how well they work together as I'm still experimenting.

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    Unless it comes with beer being spilled over you, 30 degree temperatures, the smell of stale sweat and the biggest guy in the place standing in front of you, it will never replace the real thing.

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    It's almost touching that the small matter of her death won't stop her despicable father exploiting her for money.

    Mawkish nonsense. It's a no from me.
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    I was very lucky to see Amy live and it is a very treasured memory. The vulnerability was there to see and made it even more special, a hologram could never get that balance. We, the audience were moved to tears that night and we were honoured to see such a raw performance. BUT! j would maybe go to see a hologram tour but with reservations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    It's the way forward - not just for dead people!

    A concert in one venue could be transmitted to any number of venues around the world.
    Dunno why but that comment cracked me up

    As for the concept. I remember a few years back there was a suggestion that using CGI entirely new films could be made featuring long dead artists like James Cagney or Grace Kelly for example. Not using old clips from their movies such as in the superb 'Dead men don't wear plaid' but by making their characters speak entirely new dialogue.

    I was totally against the idea at the time and this Amy Winehouse concept is in the same ballpark for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    It's almost touching that the small matter of her death won't stop her despicable father exploiting her for money.

    Mawkish nonsense. It's a no from me.
    He's not.
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    Weird and not for me.
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    Sounds rather morbid.

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    I was out at a designer outlet in York today.

    There was a Kate Spade shop selling her handbags etc, all bearing her name and it was busy.

    Kate Spade committed suicide earlier this year, but folk are still cashing in on her name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    I was out at a designer outlet in York today.

    There was a Kate Spade shop selling her handbags etc, all bearing her name and it was busy.

    Kate Spade committed suicide earlier this year, but folk are still cashing in on her name.
    Is that not comparable to still being able to buy an Amy Winehouse CD, DVD or poster or driving a car bearing the Ford name?

    Had there been holograms of the designer in question modeling the goods for sale or standing in the doorway beckoning you in would that not have left you feeling uncomfortable? Would it have been appropriate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    I was out at a designer outlet in York today.

    There was a Kate Spade shop selling her handbags etc, all bearing her name and it was busy.

    Kate Spade committed suicide earlier this year, but folk are still cashing in on her name.
    Kate Spade sold the brand name years ago around 2006 and had no involvement since. So no real comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Is that not comparable to still being able to buy an Amy Winehouse CD, DVD or poster or driving a car bearing the Ford name?

    Had there been holograms of the designer in question modeling the goods for sale or standing in the doorway beckoning you in would that not have left you feeling uncomfortable? Would it have been appropriate?
    I saw the late Carrie Fisher in Star Wars last year, and I regularly see films of deceased people on TV.

    Morecambe and Wise, for example, are wall to wall on TV every Christmas.

    What's the difference in enjoying those people's performances, and one of Amy Winehouse's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    I saw the late Carrie Fisher in Star Wars last year, and I regularly see films of deceased people on TV.

    Morecambe and Wise, for example, are wall to wall on TV every Christmas.

    What's the difference in enjoying those people's performances, and one of Amy Winehouse's?
    Taking the hologram on tour and turning it into attending a concert scenario in large arenas is the difference as opposed to film and tv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibby View Post
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    Taking the hologram on tour and turning it into attending a concert scenario in large arenas is the difference as opposed to film and tv.
    It's a different medium, but it's just a recording like any other.

    I bet more people see James Stewart in It's a Wonderful Life every year than will see a hologram recording of Amy Winehouse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    It's a different medium, but it's just a recording like any other.

    I bet more people see James Stewart in It's a Wonderful Life every year than will see a hologram recording of Amy Winehouse.
    Itís just the whole on tour concert vibe which is usually reserved for live artists that doesnít sit well with me. Each to their own though.
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