Gazza KB'd

[Dashing Bob S]

Nomination for hall of fame withdrawn as some SFA officials threaten to boycott.

So a victory for those who see him as a racist, sectarian wife beater and sex pest, and a defeat for those who see him as a troubled, mentally ill victim.

I'll split the difference and go for both.

[Sylar]

His mental illness may well be an explanatory factor for a lot of his behaviour, but i dont believe it can explain away some of the things he’s done.

On a footballing level, his nomination was well merited, but if its based on complete character, it’s probably the correct call.

[G B Young]

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His mental illness may well be an explanatory factor for a lot of his behaviour, but i dont believe it can explain away some of the things he’s done.

On a footballing level, his nomination was well merited, but if its based on complete character, it’s probably the correct call.

Is there a 'complete character' stipulation? I ask because I don't know what the criteria are. As far as I'm aware it's based solely on what the nominees contributed to the game, which in Gazza's case was a lot.

If he's excluded, then I'd wager there are a good number of inductees who had troubled personal lives. Jim Baxter and Jimmy Johnstone immediately spring to mind. Would anyone question their inclusion? And would George Best be excluded had he been Scottish?

If there's a clause which states something along the lines that as well as being an oustanding player/manager etc a nominee must also have been a clean-living, mentally stable character then I imagine they'd have to de-select a good many.

[heretoday]

The SFA are incredible really. They shoot themselves in the foot all the time. They claim to have concerns about Gazza's health.

What they're worried about is that he might do something radge at their fancy event.

[Baader]

Read the statement by Club 1872 earlier. Good to see the caring side of The Rangers again. Pity most of their members probably can't read. Club 1690 would suit them better.

[Chic Murray]

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Read the statement by Club 1872 earlier. Good to see the caring side of The Rangers again. Pity most of their members probably can't read. Club 1690 would suit them better.

http://club1872.co.uk/news/paul-gasc...me-nomination/

Much of that has already been covered on here

"All the best on the back of his health challenges?" Wtf does that mean?

Otherwise the usual whitaboot bile, from those small town knuckle draggers.

[ancient hibee]

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The SFA are incredible really. They shoot themselves in the foot all the time. They claim to have concerns about Gazza's health.

What they're worried about is that he might do something radge at their fancy event.

The SFA are not involved.

[Brunswickbill]

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The SFA are incredible really. They shoot themselves in the foot all the time. They claim to have concerns about Gazza's health.

What they're worried about is that he might do something radge at their fancy event.

I think that the worry may be that some black-tied nutters in the audience might do something embarrassing.

[superfurryhibby]

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Is there a 'complete character' stipulation? I ask because I don't know what the criteria are. As far as I'm aware it's based solely on what the nominees contributed to the game, which in Gazza's case was a lot.

If he's excluded, then I'd wager there are a good number of inductees who had troubled personal lives. Jim Baxter and Jimmy Johnstone immediately spring to mind. Would anyone question their inclusion? And would George Best be excluded had he been Scottish?

If there's a clause which states something along the lines that as well as being an oustanding player/manager etc a nominee must also have been a clean-living, mentally stable character then I imagine they'd have to de-select a good many.

Johnstone and Baxter contributed rather more to Scottish football than Gascoigne. There is no comparison.

[Carheenlea]

He’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but this is a shoddy and insulting way to treat anyone. The blazers just stumble from one circus to another.

[jgl07]

I can forgive Gascoigne for a lot given his sparkling play at Newcastle, Spurs and Lazio. But I cannot forgive him for trying to tempt Raoul Moat out of his police stand-off with a fishing rod and a pack of sandwiches or for signing for Rangers!

[Famous Fiver]

Time for him to wave another yellow card to Officialdom!

[Tomsk]

I agree with the decision to revoke his award. It should never have happened in the first place.

[lyonhibs]

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He’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but this is a shoddy and insulting way to treat anyone. The blazers just stumble from one circus to another.

Exactly this. What a ****ty way to treat the man, out in the public eye as well.

[Keith_M]

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Nomination for hall of fame withdrawn as some SFA officials threaten to boycott.

So a victory for those who see him as a racist, sectarian wife beater and sex pest, and a defeat for those who see him as a troubled, mentally ill victim.

I'll split the difference and go for both.

Good!


Oh and maybe we can just describe him as a mentally ill, drunken, racist, sectarian, wife-beater and sex pest.

I'm sure Charles Manson was mentally ill as well.....

[SirDavidsNapper]

Fantastic news

[Lago]

Best result all round.

[0762]

Correct decision but should never have got to this.
By his nomination in the first place it shows that the criteria for being awarded this accolade is flawed.

Only Scottish Football would have a open vote to supporters to nominate who should be inducted.
Who get's the vote next year?
Nothing to stop all the Hertz fans voting for Vlad Romanov and getting him inducted.

[RyeSloan]

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Correct decision but should never have got to this.
By his nomination in the first place it shows that the criteria for being awarded this accolade is flawed.

Only Scottish Football would have a open vote to supporters to nominate who should be inducted.
Who get's the vote next year?
Nothing to stop all the Hertz fans voting for Vlad Romanov and getting him inducted.

Just par for the course for Scottish Football.

To be honest though I’m quite impressed by how they forever manage to dream up news ways to look incompetent...shows they are at least good at something

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Correct decision but should never have got to this.
By his nomination in the first place it shows that the criteria for being awarded this accolade is flawed.

Only Scottish Football would have a open vote to supporters to nominate who should be inducted.
Who get's the vote next year?
Nothing to stop all the Hertz fans voting for Vlad Romanov and getting him inducted.

Boaty Mcboatface will get the popular vote ;)

[Smartie]

If a place in the hall of fame is anything whatsoever to do with a footballing contribution then he is as deserving as many. Look at the list - there are a good few flawed characters/ erses in there already.

If it's the Mary Poppins award for an all-round good person then he shouldn't be in there - but you should probably go removing half the people who already are.

Scottish football's ability to make a fool of itself continues to astound me.

SFA officials threaten to boycott? I wonder who and why, and whether this was a missed opportunity to dispense with a few blazer-clad numpties?

I have no respect for Paul Gascoigne the person but plenty for Paul Gascoigne the footballer, and sometimes you need to separate the two.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Getting periodically dragged out and getting put on show is not doing him or anyone else any good.

[wpj]

Would have been better to look at it in detail before awarding a hall of fame place then deciding it was a non starter and dragging it all up again. The evidence was always there and I seriously doubt PG or his family needed it all brought up again. Very poor all round.

[Northernhibee]

I’m sorry but this is the worst all round result

It doesn’t excuse his nomination to begin with and it shows they don’t even have the courage of their own convictions.

The issues surrounding his nomination are well known.

[Centre Hawf]

I actually feel somewhat sorry for Gazza. Should never have been nominated and now he’s being slated left right and centre, all of it justified btw. But did Gazza ask for any of this or have the SFA just heaped a whole lot more unnecessary stress on a guy who clearly has issues to deal with daily? A bit silly considering mental health awareness day was just two days ago.

[Carheenlea]

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I actually feel somewhat sorry for Gazza. Should never have been nominated and now he’s being slated left right and centre, all of it justified btw. But did Gazza ask for any of this or have the SFA just heaped a whole lot more unnecessary stress on a guy who clearly has issues to deal with daily? A bit silly considering mental health awareness day was just two days ago.

Spot on

[heretoday]

Classic Scottish football stushie. Moralistic, self-righteous types getting up on their hind legs and spouting nonsense. I love it.

[Winston Ingram]

Another SFA shambles

[ancient hibee]

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Another SFA shambles

Total tosh.Nothing to do with the SFA.The panel choosing the nominees is made up of football journalists/media and nominations can be made by the public or discussions by the panel.In fact it’s SFA people who have brought about the withdrawal of the nomination .Still don’t let facts get in the way.

[Chic Murray]

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Classic Scottish football stushie. Moralistic, self-righteous types getting up on their hind legs and spouting nonsense. I love it.

The double standards on display reassure me that traditional values still hold firm.

Interesting to note how many psychiatrists, and psychologists contribute to Hibs.net, by the way - amazing what you can learn by reading the tabloids, and adapting a concerned countenance.

I wonder how many of you would feel comfortable saying his weight loss is due to cancer? The sad fact is, none of us know what's going on in that guy's head, it's bad form to discuss it in such an offhand and uninformed way.

I don't know why he was nominated anyway. That entire Rangers team was full of outstanding internationalists.

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Interesting that George Best is now brought into the discussion.

In my opinion, he just lived his life differently from most of the rest of us, and, as far as I m aware, was fairly law abiding.

He did do time in jail.