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27-09-2018 03:47 PM #31
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We had to pay $50 US to get out of Mexico in July. That's quite a bit more than 2 quid a night. Bit of a pain but wouldn't stop me going back.
I have had to pay similar in the mallorca/ibiza so not sure why it wouldn't work here too.
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27-09-2018 04:19 PM #32
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27-09-2018 05:43 PM #34
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My hotel stay in Crete on Saturday week has a €4 government tax per night and a 0.5% city tax. I wouldn't have checked if it wasn't for this thread.
Tourists won't bat an eyelid.
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27-09-2018 07:57 PM #35This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-09-2018 12:44 PM #36
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Plenty of cities have it and I never bat an eye lid at it, would be a very good move for Edinburgh.
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08-10-2018 07:38 AM #37
It would have to apply to Air BnB so presummably, they will have to register. They can then put them ina seperate planning category and control their impact on neighbours.
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08-10-2018 04:48 PM #38
Paid it in Vegas, currently in San Francisco and not been mentioned, New York still to come and it’s $21 per night there.
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08-10-2018 05:11 PM #39This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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11-10-2018 09:25 AM #42
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We are told that tourism benefits the local economy. If that's the case, how come we are cutting back on services?
I think that it's because we are spending our money supporting the tourism sector, and the tourism sector is not contributing much to the economy. I think the profits end up leaving the city.
Tourism makes it harder for the real wealth generators like financial services to do their job, by things like road closures, and inflating property prices.
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11-10-2018 09:32 AM #43This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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11-10-2018 10:15 AM #44This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There's a Transient Occupancy Tax all across California.
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11-10-2018 10:34 AM #45
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As for the ‘that’s what council tax is for’...you are missing the point completely.
Tourism, while supporting local jobs and businesses, puts additional strain on the city in terms of infrastructure and management of events etc. The additional costs of which are not directly reflected in the income to the council (council tax for example is paid by residents not tourists or businesses).
Further more the SG takes a large chunk of the business rates and reallocates the money out of the city.
So a tourist tax is simply an additional revenue stream for the council to partly mitigate the costs associated with having a city that has such large tourist numbers.
That said I think this is just a symptom of the broken method of funding councils and the services hey are expected to provide.
I would be advocating a complete change of approach where the provision of housing, education and social care is overseen by a completely different body compared to the city services provided. When you look at the money spent by the council you soon see that the vast majority of its expenditure has nothing to do with street maintenance, cleaning, infrastructure etc yet most residents seem to think this is its primary function.
I find it rather odd that we expect Councils to be able to deliver such disparate and diverse services effectively (and therefore no surprise when they struggle to do so) and think its high time a wholesale review of provision, responsibly and funding was undertaken for local government.
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11-10-2018 10:39 AM #46
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At least we've still got financial services. Or, they've got us, I'm never sure.
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11-10-2018 10:54 AM #47
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Seems to me tourism is being driven by the huge increase in the middle class from Asia not by a cunning plan dreamt up by the council.
Anyway there is nothing wrong with Edinburgh’s economy and it is in fact one of the strongest in the UK across numerous metrics. On GVA per head it is second only to London.
The financing of its council and what its council is tasked to do is where the problem lies.
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11-10-2018 11:18 AM #48
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I can't help feeling we are paying enough council tax to maintain the town as a middle sized city. I was interested in what you said about the government skinning off cash, and investing it outside the city.
At the end of the day I would probably prefer the city was run by SPFL level politicians, than the pub league players we have on the council.
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11-10-2018 11:56 AM #50
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A tourist tax is great idea and it gives councils extra revenue to run their authority. Our councils badly need more revenue and ways to raise it as Holyrood has been power grabbing for at least 10 years
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11-10-2018 12:03 PM #51This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The council have been working at increasing tourism in the city for decades.
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11-10-2018 12:17 PM #52
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I can’t remember the exact numbers re local authority financing and think the methodologies have changed over the years, what I am certain of is that Edinburgh gets a bum deal and is bottom of the list on £ spent per head of population.
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11-10-2018 12:23 PM #53
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Tourism hasn't always been unpopular in Edinburgh. Who wants to live a place that people don't want to visit.
The council's "strategy" has been to pack in as many visitors as it possibly can. In the process they have ignored the needs of residents, eg getting around town, getting to work etc; they have also sold an increasingly tatty and overpriced product.
Last year there were rats in the bins on the Royal Mile. That's how inept they actually are, they can't even maintain the product.
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11-10-2018 12:32 PM #55
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And, "psychopaths"?Last edited by CropleyWasGod; 11-10-2018 at 12:37 PM.
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11-10-2018 12:39 PM #57
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I'd rather give them the chance myself, and, if they **** it up.... bin them. And don't collect the bin.
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11-10-2018 01:16 PM #59This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Which 'they' are you referring to here - elected Councillors or the permanent officials?
Implementing a Tourist Tax is a complete no-brainer. The vast number of visitors generated by a mixture of the dumb luck of our history and location, the hard work that goes into maintaining profile through the festivals and Hogmanay and the city's attractiveness as a work and academic location means that a huge amount of demand is placed on public services without a direct means of recouping the costs.
All that visitor traffic is good for business and jobs - and incidentally has a significant trickle-down effect elsewhere in Scotland geographically - but the Council itself sees little benefit in revenue terms to assist in the provision of all the services a city needs to support these visitor activities.
There's a mechanism for regulating how the Council spends its money - local elections. So if you don't like how the SNP-led coalition currently in charge of Edinburgh is performing, whether on counting demonstration sizes or providing decent roads or bin collections, you can vote for someone else next time.
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11-10-2018 01:18 PM #60
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